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BREAKING: Utah legislators move to kill NSA data center
Ben Swann ^ | 2/12/14 | Michael Lotfi

Posted on 02/13/2014 9:40:01 AM PST by Baynative

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To: Chickensoup
Utah did not pass a law that the employees cannot leave the center.

No, but without running water you can't flush a toilet.

21 posted on 02/13/2014 10:00:41 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Baynative

"Predictive modeling of meta-data."

We thought about this for a long time, predictive modeling of meta-data, and when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union.

22 posted on 02/13/2014 10:00:57 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

I pray Utah has the courage.


23 posted on 02/13/2014 10:01:17 AM PST by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Triple

may i be the first, “today” - or “in this thread” :-)


24 posted on 02/13/2014 10:03:11 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Baynative

This is just theatre. I guarantee a state will not shut off water to a fed facility. Won’t happen.


25 posted on 02/13/2014 10:03:17 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Baynative

This will not end well. The Feds will eventually force Utah to provide the water and electricity, and for free.


26 posted on 02/13/2014 10:07:17 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Secret Agent Man
"down with fedgov"

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27 posted on 02/13/2014 10:08:59 AM PST by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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To: Jane Long

And no one stops them.


28 posted on 02/13/2014 10:09:34 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: plain talk

This is just theatre. I guarantee a state will not shut off water to a fed facility. Won’t happen.


29 posted on 02/13/2014 10:13:57 AM PST by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: plain talk

Why?

Utah has been so screwed by dems in the past 20 years.


30 posted on 02/13/2014 10:14:34 AM PST by Chickensoup (leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Baynative

Mike Lee can drive the bulldozer! Lets just hope Hatch is inside when its demolished.


31 posted on 02/13/2014 10:19:51 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: Chickensoup

A commercial Data Center probably has 72 hours of diesel on site, being the NSA they probably store several weeks or more.

However, a data center of this size uses chilled water, and lots of it, to cool the servers and related equipment. They need a constant supply to keep operating. Killing the water will shut down the cooling and the DC.


32 posted on 02/13/2014 10:26:32 AM PST by matt04
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To: Chickensoup

The water is used to cool the servers. They can maybe last a week on backup cooling systems.


33 posted on 02/13/2014 10:28:20 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: tacticalogic

They need water, and lots of it, to keep the cooling operations running.


34 posted on 02/13/2014 10:28:53 AM PST by matt04
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To: Baynative

Or perhaps just build a dam downstream from where it is...


35 posted on 02/13/2014 10:33:26 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: matt04
They need water, and lots of it, to keep the cooling operations running.

We've got a pretty good-sized data center at work, and it's a closed-loop system. I could see them needing lots of water if they're using an evaporative cooling system, but I don't think they'd risk having the systems taken down by a broken water main.

36 posted on 02/13/2014 10:36:44 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

I go into a lot of data centers. Most large ones will use cold water sources with some kind of backup system. The backup is usually only rated for a short time and does not have the capacity to replace the chilled water.


37 posted on 02/13/2014 10:39:58 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Baynative

Nice try, but this is blatantly unconstitutional.


38 posted on 02/13/2014 10:42:31 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: driftdiver
I go into a lot of data centers. Most large ones will use cold water sources with some kind of backup system. The backup is usually only rated for a short time and does not have the capacity to replace the chilled water.

Understood, but are those closed-loop recirculating systems, or open systems with a lot of evaporative loss?

39 posted on 02/13/2014 10:44:33 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Jane Long; ilovesarah2012
Only Commies ignore and denigrate our Constitution.

I'm sympathetic to this proposal, but just a head's up that UTAH would violate the Constitution if it tried to do this. One of the most important cases in US history -- McCulloch v. Maryland concerned an effort by Maryland do to something very similar in order to kick out a federal agency they didn't want. Chief Justice John Marshall and the Supreme Court said that no, that states can't do that, way back in 1819. It's a nice try but the issue has been tried and settled.

40 posted on 02/13/2014 10:49:57 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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