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To: exDemMom
Oh, FYI--because the temptation to educate is too strong to resist--mercury is not used in adjuvants. It is used in trace amounts as a preservative in multi-dose vials of vaccine, in the form of sodium azide. In that usage, the dose is extremely small; you get more mercury by eating a tuna-fish sandwich.

Oh one more thing. Funny how you forgot to mention Thimerosal when referencing mercury in vaccines that you say doesn't exist. Now, you have such HIGH standards for references that I don't kow if my meager efforts will make the grade here, but if - if, mind you - you consider the US FOod and Drug Administration a legitimate enough reference, here's what they say about this chemical:

Thimerosal is a mercury-containing organic compound (an organomercurial). Since the 1930s, it has been widely used as a preservative in a number of biological and drug products, including many vaccines, to help prevent potentially life threatening contamination with harmful microbes. Over the past several years, because of an increasing awareness of the theoretical potential for neurotoxicity of even low levels of organomercurials and because of the increased number of thimerosal containing vaccines that had been added to the infant immunization schedule, concerns about the use of thimerosal in vaccines and other products have been raised.

Well gee, isn't that interesting? I'm sure you'll take that into account now, right? SURE you will especially the point about how such small doses are still very dangerous - right?

Oh, and about that chemical you referenced (you know, when you were forgetting to mention Thimerosal) - sodium azide? Now again, I don't know if you'll accept a reference from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, but this is what they say about the extreme poisonousness and danger of sodium azide:

Sodium azide is a rapidly acting, potentially deadly chemical that exists as an odorless white solid. When it is mixed with water or an acid, sodium azide changes rapidly to a toxic gas with a pungent (sharp) odor. Sodium azide is best known as the chemical found in automobile airbags. Sodium azide is used as a chemical preservative in hospitals and laboratories. Sodium azide is also used in detonators and other explosives. You could be exposed to sodium azide by drinking the contaminated water or by eating contaminated food. Sodium azide prevents the cells of the body from using oxygen. When this happens, the cells die. Sodium azide is more harmful to the heart and the brain than to other organs, because the heart and the brain use a lot of oxygen. People exposed to a small amount of sodium azide by breathing it, absorbing it through their skin, or eating foods that contain it may have some or all of the following symptoms within minutes: Dizziness, Headache, Nausea and vomiting, Rapid breathing, Rapid heart rate, Restlessness, Weakness. Exposure to a large amount of sodium azide by any route may cause these other health effects as well: Convulsions, Low blood pressure, Loss of consciousness, Lung injury, Respiratory failure leading to death, Slow heart rate. Survivors of serious sodium azide poisoning may have heart and brain damage.

Well gee again - low amounts of mercury in sodium azide? Well, is that really relevant, since the chemical is so poisonous and toxic and that it is used in explosives and preservatives and leads to heart and brain damage?

So you FORGET to mention Thimerosal, and DEFEND the use of sodium azide, INJECTED into children and infants, while demanding references from me from pharmaceutical-backed publications?

And you call these kind of observations a "screed"?

I find your shamelessness revolting - especially since they directly endanger the lives of so many children and families.

Again I pray - God save us all from people like you.

101 posted on 02/16/2014 4:46:08 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker
Oh one more thing. Funny how you forgot to mention Thimerosal when referencing mercury in vaccines that you say doesn't exist. Now, you have such HIGH standards for references that I don't kow if my meager efforts will make the grade here, but if - if, mind you - you consider the US FOod and Drug Administration a legitimate enough reference, here's what they say about this chemical:

Actually, I made a mistake. I was speaking of thimerosal (aka thiomersal), but misspoke and called it by the name of another common (but highly toxic in high doses) laboratory preservative. Everything I said was, in fact, referring to thimerosal.

FYI, if you read the excerpt from the FDA carefully, you will see that it does not say anywhere that thiomersal is a health hazard as used. It only says that "concerns" have been raised. Medical studies continue to support the safety of the use of thiomersal in vaccines.

So you FORGET to mention Thimerosal, and DEFEND the use of sodium azide, INJECTED into children and infants, while demanding references from me from pharmaceutical-backed publications?

As I said, calling thiomersal by the wrong name was a mistake. Yes, even scientists make mistakes--we are, however, willing to correct ourselves when the mistakes are pointed out.

I have given you a number of sources for medical information in previous posts. These sources are not, as you claim, "pharmaceutical-backed publications." These sources are where researchers such as myself publish our experimental findings so that other researchers can see them. These sources are used by physicians to keep current in their fields. If you go to the PubMed database as I suggested, you will see that it contains no ads and it is not trying to sell you anything. The other sites like WebMD, Mayo Clinic, and so forth, do run ads, but they are not trying to sell their own products. Also, I have nothing particularly against the pharmaceutical industry. I'd much rather take an antibiotic tested for safety and efficacy in thousands of people than risk my health (and waste money) by taking "supplements" of unknown or questionable composition that have not been tested and are being sold by people who have no scientific or medical training.

Lastly, there is nothing wrong in demanding reliable references for ridiculous claims. If you are going to claim that vaccines are killing people, you'd better be able to come up with a reliable reference to support the claim. The CDC records all causes of deaths, every year. While many people die of infectious disease, I have never seen a mention of even one person dying from a vaccine--despite hundreds of millions of vaccinations administered every year. You can read about significant causes of illness and mortality at the CDC's Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. I read this report every week.

102 posted on 02/22/2014 12:09:40 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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