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1 posted on 02/14/2014 10:59:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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There’s nothing gay about homosexualism. These poor tortured souls are the unhappiest people on earth.


2 posted on 02/14/2014 11:03:34 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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Judge Kennedy destroyed this country. May he die of some bone marrow disease.

In other news, Uganda absolutely rejected sodomy today, when the president reversed course and assented to the law preventing homosexual predation of children.


3 posted on 02/14/2014 11:06:16 PM PST by Viennacon
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We made a commitment to each other in our love and lives, and now had the legal commitment, called marriage, to match. Isn't that what marriage is?

Nope - marriage is the union of husband and wife.

The older generation's fears and prejudices have given way, and today's young people realize that if someone loves someone they have a right to marry.

Language and the meaning of words is not prejudice or fear - it is reality. The fact a man cannot be a wife and a woman cannot be a husband is reality.

5 posted on 02/14/2014 11:15:11 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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Is there any doubt what will be needed is divine intervention?

Doesn’t have to be destruction or something like that.

I am putting all my faith in God to make it right, not man.

Definitely not man.


6 posted on 02/14/2014 11:15:42 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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I think the answer to this is for Bible believing Christian Pastors to refuse to act as government agents in signing off on marriage licenses. We need to refer to all government issued marriage licenses as Civil Unions and pastors should simply conduct matrimonial ceremonies without certifying the union for the State.

If the couple wishes to later or earlier go to the courthouse and “make it legal” they can but that would be a secular ceremony.

The perverts have perverted the meaning of “marriage” so we need to distance ourselves from the term and Christians should not expect their pastors to conduct any official ceremony recognized by the State in their churches.

If two Christians wish to be joined in “Holy Matrimony” there is no requirement that it be recognized by the State, especially where that state also recognizes same sex unions as “marriage”. They can be joined before God without the assent of the State and if they want the benefits of the State’s recognition of their relationship, they can do it at the courthouse.

If pastors are acting as agents of the state in marriage ceremonies, then they are risking lawsuits by refusing to do those ceremonies for homosexuals and other perverts. Better not to sign the marriage license than lose a huge lawsuit for following the tenets of your faith.


7 posted on 02/14/2014 11:18:40 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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Last night, only days after hearing oral arguments in the case, a Virginia federal judge struck down the state ban on same-sex marriage, writing unequivocally that “[t]radition is revered in the Commonwealth, and often rightly so. However, tradition alone cannot justify denying same-sex couples the right to marry any more than it could justify Virginia’s ban on interracial marriage.”

Interracial marriage does not contradict the definition of marriage. You can get the union of husband and wife regardless of race. Whereas two men or two women cannot join together as husband and wife. It's language - not just "tradition." This ruling is embarrassing. A judge - someone highly educated and credentialed, sitting as a judge in U.S. Federal Court - doesn't have even the most basic sense.

8 posted on 02/14/2014 11:19:29 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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“The older generation’s fears and prejudices have given way, and today’s young people realize that if someone loves someone they have a right to marry.”

This young person doesn’t. Loving something/someone doesn’t make you actions with/toward someone/something moral or right. Certainly doesn’t make it sane. The heart is deceitful above all else. People love animals, children, objects...having inappropriate relationships with something/someone doesn’t mean that love will make the aberrance lessen or disappear. Necrophiliacs love dead bodies. Murderers love to murder. Sadists love to torture. Rapists love to rape. A person’s “love” of something will never excuse a crime.


9 posted on 02/14/2014 11:26:16 PM PST by Politicalkiddo (Forgiveness is the fragrance that the violet sheds on the heel that has crused it. -M. Twain)
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From here, a short walk to legalized polygamy and bestiality. Lawrence v. Texas (2003) did inestimable damage to the Social Order. Justice Kennedy, IIRC, stated something to the effect that "Liberty" demanded that people be left alone in their bedrooms in smacking down the Texas Sodomy Statute. The notion of "Substantive Due Process" - long viewed in the Supreme Court with disfavor, emerged triumphant.

Of course, he totally ignored the U.S. Constitution, particularly the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment, which could have formed a rational basis for the decision, since the Texas statute did not outlaw sodomy between male and female, but only between people of the same sex. On the same day, a decision came down on an affirmative action case that, IMO, effectively rendered the Equal Protection Clause nugatory. Read Scalia's dissent in the Lawrence case - it is chillingly prescient.



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10 posted on 02/14/2014 11:40:21 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Mlicha<center> <table backel the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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If you can’t get gay “marriage” approved by voters its obviously not over.


13 posted on 02/14/2014 11:46:34 PM PST by RginTN
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Human laws that go against nature seldom turn out well. See my tag line.


19 posted on 02/15/2014 12:22:14 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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God makes marriages. The state legalizes contracts. God is not ruled by judges of any nation, but they will all be judged by Him.


24 posted on 02/15/2014 4:08:22 AM PST by txrefugee
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Has any judge provided a definition of what gay “marriage” is?

Legal marriage provides a legal framework to protect a biological relationship between a mated pair, with the intent of protecting the offspring from such a pair.

Since homosexuals cannot form a mated pair and certainly won’t produce offspring, what, exactly, is the rationale for letting them go through the legal motions?

I know the homosexuals want the financial benefits, and that is a big motivator—but those benefits are meant to offset the costs of raising children that result from a mated pair relationship. It is unfair to all those raising children to allow any two random people to receive those same benefits just because they can now claim they are legally married even when they cannot possibly marry.

Knowing the mindset of liberals, I expect a LOT of fraud to occur, now that the requirement for actual marriage is being removed as the basis of this legal arrangement.


28 posted on 02/15/2014 5:06:55 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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The entire country is going Bat-S**t crazy with it’s obsession with political correctness.

Pretending that homosexualism is just like normal male - female relations, only a little bit different, is just as crazy as all of the other pretend facts that liberals demand we all pretend are true.

Homos can’t have children or grandchildren.
Nature made sure of that.

They are kidding themselves.
Just like they pretnd that sodomy is the same as normal herterosexual relations.


30 posted on 02/15/2014 5:25:14 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male and female(it is written in Genesis 1:verse 27) and said For this cause a man shall leave his father and his mother and shall cleave unto his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” (Matthew 19:4-5 citing the Law of Moses -Genesis 1:27 and 2:24) Twice in the State of Colorado ,where Law is now mocked, I have been legally married in Civil Ceremony. Both times the Judge elected to reflect Matthew 19: .Now Federal judges are told to advance the cause -to make us all as Sodom or like unto Gomorrah. Yet Justice White once published “when constitutional law is judge made and not rooted in the in the text or structure of the Constitution it is illegitimate ,root and branch.”(see the Tempting of America,Robert H. Bork ,pp.119-120
Senators Ted Cruz and Mike Lee have proposed the State Marriage Defense Act.I stand with them— and I stand with Roy Moore we need an amendment to the Constitution to define marriage as some 33 State have. Mark Levin on KNZZ AM 1100 yesterday spoke about how WRONG it is for Judges to be doing this. I agree with Mark Levin. I have not the status of any of these. and I would NOT ever pretend to be trained a navy SEAL but I agree with the idea — “the fight does not end.” so long as i live i will fight to defend Our constitution and way of Life against ALL enemy foreign or domestic. And I will honor the Code— I will NEVER surrender of my own free will.


34 posted on 02/15/2014 5:59:07 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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Let me figure this out:

0% of gay couples can reproduce by themselves.

90% of normal man and woman couples can reproduce by themselves[usually].

0% = 90%

oh I understand EQUALity now.

thanks.

I wuz confused there for a moment by the MATH.


36 posted on 02/15/2014 6:37:38 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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Truthfully, the only possible recovery at this point is for the Orthodox and conservative churches to regain their sacrament by being exclusive of secular marriage.

That is, by mutual agreement, they only recognize their own marriages, and those provided by other faiths that have the same basic rules. Importantly, this also means that they *do not recognize* either liberal church or secular marriages.

Though they can only do so in their realm does not matter. Nor if people married under their auspices also have to have a secular marriage, that is acceptable as well.

But they must sternly reject any other definition of marriage. For example, if a couple that identify themselves as Mr. and Mrs. have not married under church auspices, the church does not recognize their marriage as valid, and they do not offer them other sacraments as a couple.


39 posted on 02/15/2014 7:34:23 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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Unholy Matrimony...

Have no doubt, legalized pedophilia is the next progressive cause.

...and it too will win...(in Gomorrica's court of secularism).

...sick land, getting sicker.

42 posted on 02/15/2014 9:24:23 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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Courts have read the Constitution to protect individuals against government law but now also against God’s law. The Constitution as endowed by the Courts, recognizes no God given heritage. A constitutional amendment is the only answer to the drift of debauchery.


43 posted on 02/15/2014 9:31:35 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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