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The 'Evil' Koch brothers are just 59th on the top political donation list
American Thinker ^ | 02/15/2013 | Rick Moran

Posted on 02/15/2014 10:38:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Sometimes, if you listen to some Democrats, they're running against the "Evil" Koch brothers rather than a specific Republican candidate.

The brothers that liberals like to hate are often trotted out as prime examples of why campaign finance reform is necessary. They are often portrayed as one of the biggest contributors to political candidates, their evil money financing evil Republicans.

The group OpenSecrets.com has compiled a list of top donors to candidates and, to the left's surprise, the Koch brothers are far down the list.

Washington Examiner:

Charles and David Koch are the two most evil people in American politics, right? We know that because Jane Mayer proved it with her landmark "Covert Operations" tour de liberal force in 2010.

Well, it turns out that Mayer's aim was off just a little, by like 58 slots on the all-time biggest donors in American politics list, as compiled by OpenSecrets.org.

OpenSecrets.org tallied the top donors in federal elections between 1989 and 2014. Koch Industries -- privately owned by the Evil Koch Bros -- is on the list, to be sure, but doesn't appear until the 59th slot, with $18 million in donations, 90 percent of which went to Republicans.

Unions, unions, unions

So who occupies the 58 spots ahead of the Evil Koch Bros? Six of the top 10 are ... wait for it ... unions. They gave more than $278 million, with most of it going to Democrats.

These are familiar names: AFSCME ($60.6 million), NEA ($53.5 million), IBEW ($44.4 million), UAW ($41.6 million), Carpenters & Joiners ($39.2 million) and SEIU ($38.3 million).

In other words, the six biggest union donors in American politics gave 15 times more to mostly Democrats than the Evil Koch Bros.


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: donations; kochbrothers

1 posted on 02/15/2014 10:38:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Whenever some lib drone brings them up, I just ask what do they think of Soros.

All of them run off, or try to act like they don’t know who he is.


2 posted on 02/15/2014 10:40:37 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: SeekAndFind

The funny thing is on most issues they agree with the Koch brothers. They are rabidly pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, and pro-taxes.


3 posted on 02/15/2014 10:45:04 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: SeekAndFind
So who occupies the 58 spots ahead of the Evil Koch Bros? Six of the top 10 are ... wait for it ... unions. They gave more than $278 million, with most of it going to Democrats. These are familiar names: AFSCME ($60.6 million), NEA ($53.5 million), IBEW ($44.4 million), UAW ($41.6 million), Carpenters & Joiners ($39.2 million) and SEIU ($38.3 million).

Where's that old sh*t Larry King... maybe he should read this... AND every staff member at the New York Times...

4 posted on 02/15/2014 10:49:05 AM PST by GOPJ ( America's drifting into totalitarianism because of left's exploitation of social failures.Greenfie)
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To: VanDeKoik
Any bets on when Mayer's "Covert Operations II: Act Blue" will appear in the New Yorker?

LOL Rick Moran's on to something here...

5 posted on 02/15/2014 10:51:37 AM PST by GOPJ ( America's drifting into totalitarianism because of left's exploitation of social failures.Greenfie)
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To: SeekAndFind

I was surprised that George Soros didn’t rate a mention in the article. I wonder where he falls on the list.


6 posted on 02/15/2014 10:53:19 AM PST by Bob
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To: VanDeKoik
"...ask what do they think of Soros. All of them run off, or try to act like they don’t know who he is."

You will get the same response mentioning the Tides Foundation, MoveOn, Emily's list, Annenburg Foundation and all the rest. The point of mentioning Koch Brothers comes from Saul Alinsky who taught radicals to create an enemy to rally people against.

7 posted on 02/15/2014 10:56:28 AM PST by Baynative (Got bulbs? Check my profile page.)
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To: Bob

Soros’ name does not appear on the list:

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php


8 posted on 02/15/2014 10:57:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: nickcarraway

Rabidly? Really?


9 posted on 02/15/2014 11:00:11 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: nickcarraway

“...Koch brothers ... rabidly pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, and pro-taxes...”
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Do you have a source for that?
(disclaimer: I work for a company that is owned by Charles Koch)


10 posted on 02/15/2014 11:15:44 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: VanDeKoik

“Whenever some lib drone brings them up, I just ask what do they think of Soros.”

In Minnestoopid I have heard libs praise Soros and his corrupting activities.


11 posted on 02/15/2014 11:17:04 AM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: nickcarraway

I believe they are pro-amnesty also.


12 posted on 02/15/2014 11:23:57 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

They said it themselves. Also see #12.


13 posted on 02/15/2014 11:53:12 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Repeal The 17th

The source is David Koch.


14 posted on 02/15/2014 12:00:49 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: GOPJ

And the Koch’s earned their money. Union donations are kickbacks from taxpayer funded “stimulus.”


15 posted on 02/15/2014 12:00:53 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: goodnesswins

Do you have a source for that?
(disclaimer: I work for a company that is owned by Charles Koch)


16 posted on 02/15/2014 12:00:54 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Okay, so you admit they are for those things, but just not rabidly so. I won’t argue you the degree, but do these guys seem like shrinking violets?


17 posted on 02/15/2014 12:01:37 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

A better list would be:

Who do people spend time thinking about?

For me, “the Koch brothers” are at the very bottom of the list.

I’ve only known about “the Koch brothers” when liberals talk about them. Given this, and their positions on the topics you mention, I think the Koch brothers are closet liberals whose purpose is to create an enemy for the liberals to get mad about. Somebody to counter the image of George Soros.


18 posted on 02/15/2014 12:09:46 PM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: nickcarraway; goodnesswins; jwalsh07

“...The Koch brothers are pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, and pro-taxes...”
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Pleas find me a source.
I want to see it.


19 posted on 02/15/2014 12:11:09 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: gundog
And the Koch’s earned their money. Union donations are kickbacks from taxpayer funded “stimulus.”

Good point dog...

20 posted on 02/15/2014 12:16:00 PM PST by GOPJ ( America's drifting into totalitarianism because of left's exploitation of social failures.Greenfie)
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To: Repeal The 17th
Took ten seconds. David Koch.
21 posted on 02/15/2014 12:24:36 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Repeal The 17th

Lhota, in Harlem last night, said he hadn’t seen the video, but took the opportunity to defend David Koch: “First off, it’s David Koch, not the other Koch brother. This is the same man who is pro-choice, pro-same-sex marriage, one of the largest philanthropists in New York [with] all of our cultural institutions; the person who built the hospital for special surgery in New York. He’s a philanthropist and a person who gave $80,000 to Governor Andrew Cuomo. So, look at who he is and try to understand what kind of citizen he is.He’s the one Koch that lives in New York with his wife. I mean, to say, ‘They’re trying to buy the election,’ I just don’t understand it.”


22 posted on 02/15/2014 12:28:10 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

thanks


23 posted on 02/15/2014 12:38:30 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: jwalsh07

thanks again


24 posted on 02/15/2014 12:38:51 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Well...here is ONE link....

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/06/09/kurtz-kochs-buying-newspapers-liberal-warren-buffett-does-it-without


25 posted on 02/15/2014 1:04:48 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: SeekAndFind
For your convenience, I dropped this into a spreadsheet and performed some very basic analysis...

The 156 donors on this list all gave a total of at least $5MM in political donations over the last 25 years.

The total dollars donated by these 156 donors is ~$2.98 Billion, and the ratio is 55.7% Democrat, 39.0% Republican and 5.3% other.

6 of the top 10 donors are unions, with a 28.5 to 1 advantage to the Democrats ($213.6MM to $7.5MM)

10 of the top 15 donors are unions, with a 28.7 to 1 advantage to the Democrats ($341.1MM to $11.9MM)

Top 10 donors: $379.3MM Democrat to $83.5MM Republican (4.5 to 1 advantage, Democrats)

Top 20 donors: $619.6MM Democrat to $164.2MM Republican (3.8 to 1 advantage, Democrats)

Top 50 donors: $1,018.9MM Democrat to $487.5MM Republican (2.1 to 1 advantage, Democrats)

You have to get to donor #53 before the running total of the total dollars donated drops below 2 to 1 Democrat advantage.

First donor that leans >60% Republican: #17 (United Parcel Service, 64%-35% Republican)

The "Evil" Koch brothers (Koch Industries)? They're only #59 on the list, and the donors above them leaned 60.5% to 32.2% in favor of Democrats ($1,083.9MM Democrat to $577.5MM Republican, $130.2 MM Other)

(based on data released by the FEC on December 16, 2013)

26 posted on 02/15/2014 1:09:05 PM PST by wittyone (Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum.)
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To: goodnesswins

Thanks.


27 posted on 02/15/2014 1:33:36 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The first is...

AFSCME is the nation’s largest and fastest growing public services employees union

Disgusting. There shouldn’t be a place in America for government worker unions.


28 posted on 02/15/2014 1:42:09 PM PST by Vision (Tune out, drop back)
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To: nickcarraway

Actually, I have no idea where they stand on those things, I took your word for it, but to claim they are rabidly for them seems outrageous from he get-go.


29 posted on 02/15/2014 2:29:42 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: SeekAndFind
At the core of the libs. hatred of the Koch bros. is their stupid idea that if not for the Koch bros. (and talk radio...and FOX), everybody would love leftists like Obama and his cronies. They simply cannot grasp that conservatives don't like leftists on g.p.

I've got a lefty brother who is amazed and perturbed that I listen to conservative talk radio and don't watch Colbert, Maher, or the other tv dope (Stewart?). Like I haven't heard tons of liberal codswallop in my 64 years on this earth.

So one time I asked my bro. what he knew about conservatism. Like most libs, he didn't know anything about conservatism. He thinks conservatism is being against screwball lib ideas. It's that, but it's a lot more.

30 posted on 02/15/2014 4:31:16 PM PST by driftless2
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