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DeMint: With Filibuster, Cruz Was Just Going for Normal Order
National Review Online - The Corner ^
| February 16, 2014 11:21 AM
| Patrick Brennan
Posted on 02/17/2014 5:02:06 AM PST by SoConPubbie
Heritage Foundation president and former senator Jim DeMint defended Senator Ted Cruzs brief filibuster this week that forced a 60-vote threshold to raise the debt ceiling, requiring Republican votes to do so.
DeMint argued Cruz was merely holding to normal procedure: The normal rule is you take 60 votes to move to a final vote, [which] they call cloture. I think that several members, including Ted Cruz, were simply asking, Lets keep the normal rules here. And that didnt suit some folks.
The reason theres a 60-vote rule in the Senate, and the reason Republican leadership fought so hard to keep it for nominations, is it requires some bipartisan working-together to pass something, DeMint said. The debt limit and just giving the president a blank check is an important vote, and to say were going to waive the rules to make it easier if Ted Cruz hadnt required standard procedure, there are several others [Republican senators] who would.
Cruzs decision to require what DeMint said was normal order angered a number of Republicans, since it meant that a number of Republican senators would then have to vote for ending debate on the debt limit, instead of moving to a simple majority vote where only Democratic senators would need to approve of the measure.
Most Senate motions, however, go to a simple majority vote, without cloture being invoked. For a variety of reasons, cloture is an increasingly common way to end debate. But as long as no senator wants to continue the debate, cloture and its 60-vote threshold arent necessary, so Cruzs measure was not necessarily a maintenance of normal order.
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cruz; jimdemint; johncornyn; tedcruz; texas
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To: SoConPubbie; TWhiteBear; painter; tbw2; Ricebug; parthian shot; mrsmel; infool7; ...
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posted on
02/17/2014 5:02:54 AM PST
by
SoConPubbie
(Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
To: SoConPubbie
Yup, DeMint is correct.
What we have here is failure to recognize Official Congressional Checks and Balances in “Shutdown” Reid’s US Senate.
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posted on
02/17/2014 5:20:52 AM PST
by
Graewoulf
(Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
To: SoConPubbie
Cruz did the “normal” thing in making the RINOs vote against all conservatives and with the libs
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posted on
02/17/2014 5:48:31 AM PST
by
bestintxas
(Every time a RINO bites the dust a founding father gets his wings.)
To: bestintxas
The worst thing you can do to a craven politician is expose their mendacity. Cruz did this with his move, and for that he earned their wrath.
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posted on
02/17/2014 6:07:07 AM PST
by
COBOL2Java
(I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
To: SoConPubbie
They throw him under the bus every chance they get. A little payback is a good thing.
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02/17/2014 6:12:06 AM PST
by
Starstruck
(If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
To: SoConPubbie
Demint is damning Cruz with faint praise by suggesting he was motivated by wanting to follow “the normal course of events”. Cruz knew what he was doing. His opposition wasmotivated by a lack of cuts to offset the increase, not by any senate tradition. He wanted senators to take a stand on one side or the other...and they did.
To: bestintxas
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And if you notice...the cockroach is facing to the left.
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posted on
02/17/2014 6:20:59 AM PST
by
N. Theknow
(Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
To: DoodleDawg
Lets keep our eyes on the issues, which are unlimited government spending approval without any spending reform or tax reduction. It is fine to note the courageous position of Sen. Ted Cruz in opposing bad government as far as his methods go, but we, like Sen. Ted Cruz, have to keep focused on better government.
TWB
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posted on
02/17/2014 8:05:33 AM PST
by
TWhiteBear
(Sarah Palin, the Flame of the North)
To: SoConPubbie
The “New Normal” in gubernance.
GoP stfu. Obama is the law.
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posted on
02/17/2014 9:05:08 AM PST
by
NormsRevenge
(Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
To: SoConPubbie
I don’t believe in any filibuster ever, so it really doesn’t matter.
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02/17/2014 10:45:28 AM PST
by
xzins
( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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