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To: ROCKLOBSTER; Mercat
"Rap is a musical form"
Debatable! Wrong! That would require musicians.
"not an ideology"
Yeah, it pretty much is...glamorizing feral urban evil, violence and filth.
"He is a Christian rapper."
Oxymoron. That's like saying he's a Christian Nazi.


Your circular "reasoning" really is bigotry by stereotyping.

Example:
A. I had a teacher who always wore green.
B. I hated her because she was mean.
C. My sister likes to wear green.
D. Therefore I am justified in hating my sister, because all females who wear green are mean."

I loathe the rap form. But I like this guy's use of it to reach people who might otherwise not hear this message. John Wesley, the founder of the Methodist church movement, did the same thing in the 1700s by resetting drinking songs with Christian lyrics and going into the taverns to reach people who were shut out by the snobbish Anglican church — and some of those songs are still sung 200+ years later.

Try not to be a hater in order to hate haters.

49 posted on 02/17/2014 10:44:00 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: Albion Wilde
Try not to be a hater in order to hate haters.

Oh, so now I'm a hater. Yeah, I'm not tolerant of the intolerant. Rap is audio fecal matter.

Guilt by association. If you don't want to be considered a criminal by the judge...don't hang around with gangstas.

John Wesley...did the same thing in the 1700s by resetting drinking songs with Christian lyrics

At least the drinking songs were...songs...music.

Are there also Christian graffiti artist who go around spray-painting the word of God on buildings? You down with that?

53 posted on 02/17/2014 11:15:48 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Well, I say if Jesus could be born a redneck (before rednecks were cool, when they were despised as low class riff raff) then Christians can rap a gospel out. Bizzle has made a pretty good essay at the matter to the depth of his knowledge.

Personally I prefer a country idiom, but if the Holy Ghost said to me to write rap, rap I would write.

I think we will hit gold with songs that can actually help walk someone in this position through the process of renewal. We can talk about repentance in the abstract till we are blue in the face. Bizzle did the best he could. The theological key here is to offer the members of one’s body to the Lord as weapons of righteousness. When that’s done, the blessings WILL flow. God the Father will SO honor that. Maybe I will put that in a song, if nobody else does. My rhymes, my verses are rough. They aren’t refined like trained songwriters’. But if that’s what it takes I will do it.


54 posted on 02/17/2014 11:21:00 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you. See my page.)
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To: Albion Wilde
Your circular “reasoning” really is bigotry by stereotyping.

Example:
A. I had a teacher who always wore green.
B. I hated her because she was mean.
C. My sister likes to wear green.
D. Therefore I am justified in hating my sister, because all females who wear green are mean.”

I loathe the rap form. But I like this guy's use of it to reach people who might otherwise not hear this message. John Wesley, the founder of the Methodist church movement, did the same thing in the 1700s by resetting drinking songs with Christian lyrics and going into the taverns to reach people who were shut out by the snobbish Anglican church — and some of those songs are still sung 200+ years later.

Try not to be a hater in order to hate haters.
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The priest who wrote Silent Night was condemned by his bishop for performing a song in church that was in German not Latin, and accompanied by guitar not an organ.

Seems like the spirit of that bishops is alive and well.

63 posted on 02/17/2014 1:17:28 PM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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