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Nave or navel? National Cathedral goes off deep end
OneNewsNow.com ^ | January 21, 2014 | Robert Knight

Posted on 02/17/2014 7:36:41 AM PST by fwdude

The Episcopal Church-run National Cathedral in Northwest Washington, DC, has hosted many events in its storied history, from Martin Luther King's final Sunday sermon before his assassination, to U.S. presidents' state funerals.

Last week, it was the site of "Seeing Deeper," a five-day exploration of "expansiveness, immediacy, and insight." Before we get into that, here's a brief history.

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"You see a cathedral, but you don't see anything being done with it. I'm trying to get this place back to its roots."

So said the Very Rev. Gary Hall, dean of the cathedral, who is quickly turning the place for the nation's most solemn occasions into Flip Wilson's Church of What's Happening Now.

Don't believe me? Try this snippet from The Washington Post:

'"I want to skateboard down it — or have a paper airplane contest,' Hall, a tall, white-haired priest, said Monday as he watched about 100 people practice tai chi in the football-field-long, rectangular nave."

That's right. The nave -- the heart of the church leading to the altar. They took out the seats to stage activities including yoga sessions during five days of "Seeing Deeper." I wonder if they have given thought to renaming the nave as the "navel," as in contemplating one's own?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda
Lead line:

"Gary Hall, dean of the National Cathedral in Washington, DC, is quickly turning the place for the nation's most solemn occasions into Flip Wilson's Church of What's Happening Now."

We now a country lead by petulant children.

1 posted on 02/17/2014 7:36:41 AM PST by fwdude
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To: fwdude

The decadent Henry VIII, founder of the Episcopal church would smile and approve of this strange priest’s plan to turn this Episcopal church into a dance hall where “youths clad in bikinis rave to loud music”.


2 posted on 02/17/2014 7:42:39 AM PST by allendale
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To: allendale
The Knave is in the nave, contemplating others navels.
3 posted on 02/17/2014 7:45:20 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: fwdude

They could bring in some sailors for some Naval exercises........................


4 posted on 02/17/2014 7:48:27 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: GladesGuru

The lunatic is in the hall.........................


5 posted on 02/17/2014 7:49:00 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: GladesGuru

At least they aren’t getting their own warships.

Hmmmmm. Worshiper Warships. The nave navel navy.

I think I’d better shut-up now before someone takes this seriously...


6 posted on 02/17/2014 7:51:03 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: fwdude

Leftwing ideology is all about the destruction of Christianity. It’s a shame when Christian clergy join in and help that effort.


7 posted on 02/17/2014 7:53:28 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: fwdude

He’s also the guy who announced that gay marriages would be performed in the National Cathedral. On television that evening, he said “My emails are in favor of it!” Now that’s a scientific survey of Christian believers right there. /sarc


8 posted on 02/17/2014 7:57:55 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: fwdude

If he gets a promotion will he be Very EXTREMELY Rev. Gary Hall


9 posted on 02/17/2014 7:59:22 AM PST by DManA
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To: fwdude

Gary is just continuing the ECUSA dedication to being “trendier than thou.”

Of course, that’s why they have lost millions of communicants and endowments are not keeping up with expenses. Nothing like driving away the faithful with faithlessness.


10 posted on 02/17/2014 8:05:39 AM PST by plangent
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To: fwdude
Hoo boy! Talk about being lost in the wilderness.

Why don't they try something really novel like preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ and honoring Him? That would probably do wonders for their attendance.

They could even legitimately call themselves a "church" and drop the pretense.

11 posted on 02/17/2014 8:13:53 AM PST by Gritty (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out! - David Horowitz)
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To: fwdude

They now pray To Whom It May Concern and consider the 10 Suggestions


12 posted on 02/17/2014 8:34:39 AM PST by sockhead
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To: fwdude

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4oTrQgFYFI


13 posted on 02/17/2014 8:39:11 AM PST by mware
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To: Gritty
Why don't they try something really novel like preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ and honoring Him?

(Full disclosure: I am LCMS Lutheran; I have never been an Episcopalian, though I have been substitute-organist in Episcopal churches perhaps a half-dozen times, the last time being 7-8 years ago.)

I think it is the ultimate, pitiful irony of all this, that the National Cathedral, in order to regain its standing as an orthodox-in-doctrine Christian church, would have to break off its American affiliation and come under the bishopric (if that is the correct term) of John Guernsey, who oversees those Episcopal churches in the US who have come under the [Anglican] Church of Uganda.

Every time I have gone to DC I have made a side trip to the Cathedral, but the last few times I visited, I felt perhaps a little like Peter or Paul, the saints for whom the Cathedral is named, at the Temple: they belonged there, God was worshipped there, but the doctrine there was all twisted--and both would have known Jesus' prophecy, that ultimately the Temple had to be destroyed by pagans, in order for God to have a place where He could be worshipped in Spirit and in truth. I hope the same fate does not have to befall the Cathedral.

14 posted on 02/17/2014 8:45:44 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: mware
Now THERE was a time.

I literally began to cry while watching this video.

Oh my country.

15 posted on 02/17/2014 8:46:04 AM PST by mware
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To: fwdude

**Episcopal Church-run National Cathedral in Northwest Washington, DC**

All the further I had to read. I believe the pictures of Clintoon coming out charring his Bible were taken here.


16 posted on 02/17/2014 8:51:52 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: fwdude

Agree, fwdude. I’m Catholic, but am very sad to see what this congregation is becoming under the present leadership. In the past the Washtington Cathedral always had grace and dignity. I’d visited a few times before, and had been impressed how well they carry off important “national services” like the interfaith service after 9/11 and Reagan’s funeral. It’s starting to become absolutely unbearable to look and see what’s happening.


17 posted on 02/17/2014 11:03:10 AM PST by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: gemoftheocean
It’s starting to become absolutely unbearable to look and see what’s happening.

Unbelievable, and sadly, it's going to get a lot worse. Evil always waxes worse. It is a bottomless pit of degradation, ardently trying to outdo itself.

18 posted on 02/17/2014 11:06:38 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: fwdude
And don't forget this.

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19 posted on 02/17/2014 11:17:26 AM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: allendale
2 The decadent Henry VIII, founder of the Episcopal church would smile and approve of this strange priest’s plan to turn this Episcopal church into a dance hall where “youths clad in bikinis rave to loud music”.

Get the history correct. KH8 and his court of protestant sympathetic advisors founded the Church of England (Anglicanism). The Epsicopal Church was founded in the U.S. after the American Revolution. In its leadership mind, to preserve apostolic succession, it had to seek consecration through the Church of Scotland (Anglican) because The Church of England wouldn't do it because they were still po'ed about losing the American colonies.

Not defending the modern TEC at all or the TCoE. It was interesting last week how TCoE's House of Bishops stated they should not affirm homosexual unions within the church, even though the U.K. passed homosexual marriage last year - and TCoE is a state church. More fireworks to come ...

20 posted on 02/17/2014 11:31:13 AM PST by MacNaughton
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To: chajin

I appreciate your history and remarks. I left TEC in NOV 2003 when it consecrated the new, open homosexual, NH bishop Gene Robinson. Fled to the LC-MS and found a home. My last 3 strongest memories of the national cathedral are (1) POTUS #40 RWR’s 2006 funeral (positive), (2) the 2001 memorial service for the victims of 9/11 (negative), and (3) the 2011 Virginia earthquake which damaged some of the finial stones and buttresses - a Divine sign, perhaps? The 9/11 service, for me, was marred when they invited an Islamic cleric into the sanctuary and allowed him to deliver a prayer. I support eccumenism, to a point. All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11. The current dean of the national cathedral is wallowing/celebrating in the mire of a dying denomination. It is hard to watch, and I try not to for fear of ending up like Lott’s wife.


21 posted on 02/17/2014 11:54:07 AM PST by MacNaughton
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