Posted on 02/19/2014 8:15:40 AM PST by 7thson
Ketut Pujayasa admitted to investigators that he ambushed and savagely beat a 31-year-old American woman after she slighted him, reported the Sun Sentinel.
The devilish Indonesian citizen told the FBI he attacked the 31-year-old American after he knocked on her door several times during a breakfast delivery and she dissed him, saying, “Wait a minute, son of a bitch!”
(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...
With that said, yes the majority of the crew are from third world nations. However, the majority of those we deal with are not dumb or stupid. Most have a higher education but are unable to find work in their own country. Most, when hired on, start at the bottom and work their way up the chain. But just like everywhere else, you treat them with dignity and respect, and they treat you the same. Also, if you tip them, they go out of thier way to help you or give you great dinner seats, etc.
Most of the officers we have met have been non-Americans. The same with the ship entertainers. You are probably correct about the cost of the cruise if the crew were all Americans but the reason you do not see many American crew members is that - in my opinion - most young Americans today do not want to work that hard. And it is hard work - long hours, day in day out.
On a Hawaiian Norwegian cruise, I did run across one American female officer in charge of the stewards. She dressed down one cleaning crew - Philippine females - in front of my wife and I. Treated them worse than dogs and in my opinion did so only because of race. We reported her. Do not know what happened to her but we did report her.
I do not feel guilty about being on a cruise. It is part of life. Like going to a fancy restaurant. You eat the great food while others serve you. That's their job. And considering the many WestPacs and Med cruise I have been on, I like these cruises better.
I have long said people on the internet often just post anything much of it made up or generalizations.
We went around the cape from Buenos Aires to Valparaiso in November. Most of the service workers were Indonesian and Filipino.
Couldn’t have had better service and nicer people.
Oh, Holland America Zaandam.
ROP ... cure the problem ... don’t hire mooselimbs
You may be interested to know, we had many Filipinos working our cruise. The company let 15 of them go home after the typhoon to try to find family they were unable to contact. The passengers donated funds for relief, as did Holland America. We had a 5K walk around the deck and raised more money.
To show appreciation, some of the Filipino crew put on a talent show.
Why do you still wonder?
“I have long said that the trouble on these cruise ships- from violence and theft to the sicknesses- is due to Third World employees. People from brutal, backward and dirty countries likely cause most of what’s wrong with the cruise ships. It wasn’t always like this.”
The last time I was on a typical cruise (don’t ask), the “third worlders” in prominent service positions had far more class than average Americans. This ain’t the country it was even 20 years ago.
Only third world people would do this job- live inside a tiny 4-person room on a floating hotel for months at a time while making less than $1000 a month.
All cruise ships fly foreign flags. If you have a problem in international waters or in the port of call you are subject to the law of that country. Even if it is a US company like Carnival they still fly Panamanian flag so they are not subject to the Jones Act and have to pay US wages. Therefore, you are not subject to US law.
Rapes happen all the time on cruise ships. They are rarely reported because you have almost no recourse. Young women should be very careful and never open their cabin door to anyone they did not call even if they are wearing a ships uniform. This is one of the BIG secrets of the cruise industry they do not want publicized.
In the short run Cruise Ships make more money hiring third world staff - in the long that type of cost cutting destroys the illusion of the cruise being an affordable ‘upper class’ experience.
A tipping point is coming...
devilish?
editorializing, although seems accurate
nude cruise?
Where saying NO is against the rules
Hey - it is text from the story, not from me. You have a beef - contact the Daily News.
http://blog.lipcon.com/category/cruise-line-crimes/cruise-ship-rape-sexual-assault
Just do an internet search on: Rapes on cruise ships. There have been several articles and news magazine stories about this subject in the last ten years. Many go unreported because it is extremely difficult to prosecute based on most happen in international waters.
I wouldn't paint with so broad a brush.
When I was a teenager, we took a few cruises, and the crews were very stable, usually of the same nationality, and knew and could communicate with each other. The cruiser felt like a guest in a well-run and wonderful resort.
Now, certain things on the cruise are franchised out....food, hotel, spa/gym, gift shops for example and the workers come from all over the world, sign contracts for a certain amount of time, and are always coming and going. The employees don't all know each other, don't speak the same language, and don't always fit into the culture of the ship they're on.
I was on a cruise where there was a really bad situation with a truly insane passenger at our dinner table, and those in charge didn't take our concerns seriously. We learned in dealing with the problem that the Phillipinos were the ones who were actually the problem solvers and could handle unexpected situations of all kinds.
I wonder if the cruise ships would fare better if all of the employees were of one nationality.
“Statistics show that cruise ship sexual assault and rape is the number one reported crime on the high seas.”
Keep in mind, it not necessarily the crew. Many times it is between passengers that are drunk and men that use date rape drugs, AKA Joran Vandersloop from Aruba. Again, the perps know it is hard to prosecute them under international law and they will most likely get away with it.
Well, as far as the guilt goes, this was leisure time for you and work hours for them. You were paying in while they were deriving money from the exchange so it should be more pleasant for you than for them. Naturally what people do on their free time will be more pleasant than what they do for work. They’re doing it by choice, not necessity.
Say you’re a waiter in a restaurant. If you got done with your cruise and came home and had to serve to people dinner as your job, do you then think your customers should feel guilty for being your customers?
Wait, what? The Jones act is for protection of domestic-flag carriers and prevents cabotage. How does such an act make it advantageous to be foreign-flagged?
No US minimum wage or US monitored working conditions. No FICA taxes, social security, medicare taxes.
All cruise ship companies fly flags of Panama, Liberia or some other foreign country.
The Jones Act states that if you are a US flagged vessel, you must comply with US laws for the workers on the ship. That means they need to have working conditions, safety standards, pay standards, etc. That also means they can be sued in a US court just like your/my employer can be for all sorts of things like sexual discrimination. Being a foreign flag of convenience vessel makes it A LOT cheaper to operate. That is why these cruises are so cheap in comparison to staying in a US resort on US soil.
Interesting. Wasn’t aware of those provisions of the Jones Act. Thanks!
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