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Death toll rising with at least 35 people killed, most by gunshots (Ukraine, live Feb. 20 updates)
Kyiv Post ^ | Feb. 20, 2014

Posted on 02/20/2014 2:18:40 AM PST by Grzegorz 246

Feb. 20, 10:59 a.m. -- A Kyiv Post journalist counted the bodies of 10 slain protesters in Ukraine Hotel on Kyiv's Independence Square, while another Kyiv Post journalist counted the bodies of three slain protesters on Khreshchatyk Street and was heading to Kozatsky Hotel on the northern side of the main square, where at least 15 more bodies were taken. Medical personnel at Kozatsky Hotel said another seven bodies would be delivered soon.

(Excerpt) Read more at kyivpost.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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1 posted on 02/20/2014 2:18:40 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

Poor Ukraine. Yanukovich needs to go but the dead on both sides is appalling


2 posted on 02/20/2014 2:27:54 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Grzegorz 246

Live:

http://www.livestation.com/en/reuters

http://espreso.tv/stream

https://twitter.com/pwaldieGLOBE


3 posted on 02/20/2014 2:29:24 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

And anyone who doesn’t believe our “boys in blue” won’t do this and
more is a fool. It is the nature of tyrants to seek and acquire power.
Once in power it is their nature to do ANYTHING no matter how heinous
to retain power. The criminals in power in America are no exception and
the sociopaths pinned to badges they have employed will do their bidding
with pleasure.


4 posted on 02/20/2014 2:29:58 AM PST by nvscanman
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To: nvscanman

I’ll just say ... wow.


5 posted on 02/20/2014 2:32:24 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: nvscanman

Barky is watching intently to see what he can get away with.


6 posted on 02/20/2014 2:34:45 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: nvscanman

I don’t think the Ukranians are armed, the People of the U.S. are.


7 posted on 02/20/2014 3:42:43 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: nvscanman

Big difference. Americans are ARMED to the teeth.


8 posted on 02/20/2014 3:45:52 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

And so is the tyrant.


9 posted on 02/20/2014 4:03:59 AM PST by Repent and Believe (Promote good. Tolerate the harmless. Let evil be crushed.)
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To: Biggirl

Always said it would boil down to our Military Men and Women and on which side they chose to stand with.


10 posted on 02/20/2014 4:06:33 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: nvscanman

They’ll get worse than those cops in Ukraine if they try it.


11 posted on 02/20/2014 4:06:36 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Grzegorz 246

Thanks for posting this. I was watching the past couple of days and was encouraged that priests (appeared to be both Catholic and Orthodox) were on the stage, praying.


12 posted on 02/20/2014 4:20:37 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: demshateGod
They’ll get worse than those cops in Ukraine if they try it.

What makes you think so? Because I see no evidence of it. Except on the internet, of course.

13 posted on 02/20/2014 4:24:27 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Grzegorz 246

Shooting to people in Kiev

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DxkDiAcSF8


14 posted on 02/20/2014 4:31:11 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246
Grzegorz 246, have you heard any updates to Ukraine closing border crossings to Poland?

Euronews


Ukraine protests spread to Polish border


19/02 19:31 CET



Anti-government protesters in Ukraine have blocked a border crossing into Poland over 600 kilometres from Kyiv.

Tyres and fallen trees have been spread across the road by what is estimated to be 200 residents from the local village denying access across the border into Poland. They say they are determined to stay until their demands are met.

“The Berkut – the riot police should withdraw from the streets. Yanukovych should resign and the changes to our constitution should be introduced. Those are our demands. We will stay here until they are met,” explained on protester.

In cities across the west of the country there are reports of more violence. In Khmelnitsky media sources say a woman was killed when security forces opened fire on protesters.

It reportedly happened when demonstrators stormed the regional offices of the Ukrainian Security Service. It’s understood the building is now on fire after the crowd threw Molotov cocktails.

They had demanded the gunmen, who it’s claimed were inside the building, show themselves but they got no response to their request. Two people were injured in the shooting. Local police said no-one was killed in the incident.

http://www.euronews.com/2014/02/19/ukraine-protests-spread-to-polish-border/
15 posted on 02/20/2014 4:31:45 AM PST by bd476
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To: don-o
Except on the internet, of course.

yes don-o, that is why the powers that be hate us. They know we are talking and that is upsetting the balance of their power. Can sense even the media saying to themselves and even heard them say ... This is disturbing ... the chatter level.

16 posted on 02/20/2014 4:43:07 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: fortheDeclaration

a lot of them are armed.


17 posted on 02/20/2014 4:43:07 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: bd476

Several of the the border crossings (or rather roads leading to them on Ukrainian side) are blocked, not sure if it makes sense but I guess locals over there want to make some impact too...


18 posted on 02/20/2014 4:43:11 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

death toll tops 50

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/20/us-ukraine-idUSBREA1G0OU20140220


19 posted on 02/20/2014 4:46:51 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

Is anyone on the thread able to translate what is being said from the platform?


20 posted on 02/20/2014 4:47:38 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Grzegorz 246
I worry that after the Winter Olympics end this weekend, we could have Russian troops move in on the protesters and there could be a Tiananmen Square-style bloodbath with a massive casualty count.
21 posted on 02/20/2014 4:49:35 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Grzegorz 246

I should give a crap why? Nations have civil wars. Let them have them and keep us out. I don’t give one tiny little bit about the Ukraine or Syria. Let them all kill each other. Yeah, I’m harsh. I just don’t want to see one more American kid/soldier or Marine die for their crap.


22 posted on 02/20/2014 4:52:30 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever!)
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To: RayChuang88
Is a strong possibility. putin maybe is telling obama to be flexible, as obama promised. Both Nations (Russia and the U.S) have their problems and China is waiting in the wings with almost nothing but a massive population, while the rest of the world gasps.
23 posted on 02/20/2014 4:53:20 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: A Navy Vet

I believe you should be in D.C. instead of some of those we have. I’ll fully agree with you on that post!


24 posted on 02/20/2014 4:54:55 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Grzegorz 246

Statist forces are killing people who disagree.

And the statist forces here are trying their best to disarm our citizenry, especially those that disagree with them.

Coincidence? I think not.


25 posted on 02/20/2014 4:59:49 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Correct.


26 posted on 02/20/2014 5:04:02 AM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: SpaceBar

watching from the depths of his compound from which he will never emerge into the real public


27 posted on 02/20/2014 5:06:03 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Repent and Believe

Americans are much, much more so ARMED to the teeth than the tyrants when you think of it.


28 posted on 02/20/2014 5:09:42 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: no-to-illegals

Do not be surprise that it will be with the people.


29 posted on 02/20/2014 5:10:48 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Grzegorz 246

Operation American Spring is coming to DC on May 16, 2014.


30 posted on 02/20/2014 5:11:21 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

I won’t. All depends on food supply (imho).


31 posted on 02/20/2014 5:13:10 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Biggirl

Love surprises going in the People’s favor though.


32 posted on 02/20/2014 5:13:56 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: don-o

I can get the basics... prayers are stronger than bullets, Christians must not shoot at other Christians... more or less such things at the moment.


33 posted on 02/20/2014 5:16:58 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

Gone.


34 posted on 02/20/2014 5:17:25 AM PST by cornelis
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To: A Navy Vet

“I should give a crap why?”

So what’s the problem ? You don’t know where the door is ?


35 posted on 02/20/2014 5:18:22 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: A Navy Vet
American Exceptionalism isn't in our blood, it is the concept that every human being is endowed by our Creator with inalienable rights, and that the individual sovereignty is more important than the power of the state.

We should always stand up for that.

First, we should recognize when its in play and when its not. In Syria, it is not. You've got Islamo-Fascists fighting Fascist-fascists. Outcome doesn't effect individual liberty at all.

Ukraine has a history of struggle against tyranny going back 100 years, very similar to Poland. Unlike Poland, Ukraine was unable to beat off the Bolsheviks. Their continued resistance to Stalin was met with the forced starvation of tens of millions.

After the fall of the USSR, Ukraine kicked the Russians out of the Black Sea bases and made strong overtures to NATO.
If not for American weakness on the issue, Ukraine would have become part of NATO, no fighting would have been required, and Ukraine wouldn't be in turmoil now.

Instead, we decided that if we didn't play state craft, the Russians would feel all warm and fuzzy inside and let Ukraine live in peace. For the thousandth time in world history, that approach didn't work.

Should we now send troops? No, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't care about expanding the concept of individual liberty, when we can.

36 posted on 02/20/2014 5:28:31 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Grzegorz 246; A Navy Vet

Guess it is a warm wind blow out of the South over my shoulder. The prior sentence is the last line in a song I once heard. Now what does that have to do with anything? Read me, It’s allowed.


37 posted on 02/20/2014 5:30:48 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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blow should be blowing, in first sentence ... many may interpret it to be what it is not though.


38 posted on 02/20/2014 5:31:47 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: A Navy Vet

I agree we should keep out of it. No troops. Just verbal support or support from individual Americans as their own consciences dictate.

Enterprising US security companies could offer their services, for example.

As a Nation, we really don’t need to get involved unless this looks like it’ll spread beyond the region. Arch Duke Ferdinand 1914 style...


39 posted on 02/20/2014 5:32:18 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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The complete sentence to the line in that song is ... Guess it is warm wind blowing out of the South over my shoulder ... Guess I should set a course and go.


40 posted on 02/20/2014 5:33:32 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Dead Corpse

Countdown till we joins you.


41 posted on 02/20/2014 5:34:47 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Grzegorz 246

I don’t get it. Why were these unarmed people advancing toward gunfire with useless shields? Are they attempting suicide by police? A wood or tin shield and a stick is of no practical use against live fire..unless they are going for martyrdom.


42 posted on 02/20/2014 5:37:28 AM PST by soycd
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To: A Navy Vet

YES!


43 posted on 02/20/2014 5:42:46 AM PST by rusureitflies?
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To: nvscanman

The local cops think they will be safe in their APCs. Well that didn’t save those poor souls when their APC was showered with fire bombs and they were cooked alive.
Other than SWAT cops, most police will back down if there are a lot of gun owners making a stand. The Cops here are used to fighting with hippies and drunk football fans.


44 posted on 02/20/2014 5:44:24 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Grzegorz 246

thanks


45 posted on 02/20/2014 5:51:33 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: SampleMan

“Should we now send troops? No, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t care about expanding the concept of individual liberty, when we can.”

Exactly, no one is expecting America to trigger of WW3 but there’s a lot of room between that and doing nothing.


46 posted on 02/20/2014 5:52:59 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: soycd

I guess they were expecting rubber bullets. Most of fighting over there is done with rubber bullets, gas, rocks, sticks etc. Otherwise there would be thousands of killed at this point.


47 posted on 02/20/2014 5:54:51 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

Perhaps why DHS and many other alphabet agencies in Mordor are buying up so much ammo these days: ‘lotta targets when similar protests arrive on our shores.


48 posted on 02/20/2014 5:55:28 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: soycd
I don’t get it. Why were these unarmed people advancing toward gunfire with useless shields?

Some of the police were using rubber bullets...

49 posted on 02/20/2014 5:55:44 AM PST by broken_clock (Do it Sarah! Cut the ties that bind.)
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To: Grzegorz 246
King Obama Draws Line - Warns Ukrainians


50 posted on 02/20/2014 6:02:27 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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