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Cuba: The Holodomor Next Door. Their starvation policy is a crime against humanity.
National Review ^ | 02/20/2014 | Robert Zubrin

Posted on 02/20/2014 5:40:21 AM PST by SeekAndFind



TOPICS: Cuba; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cuba; holodomor; starvation

1 posted on 02/20/2014 5:40:21 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Less than a hundred years ago, Cuba was a rich and vibrant resort spot no one wanted to leave.

Somewhere amongst us kids are photo's of our mam and dad , if not honeymooning, young enough to take a vacation together, and they are smiling in a nightclub with a table of people, drinks on the round table, etc.

Another photo shows them lovey-dovey birding on a beach

No clue as to the date but I'd guess nineteen thirties

2 posted on 02/20/2014 5:52:29 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There have been various postings on FR talking about the increasing control of the Federal government over food production in the US, the concentration of such production in large agribusiness hands and the many regulations that are driving small and family farms out of business. All of this makes it more possible to use food as a means of control here, as well.


3 posted on 02/20/2014 5:56:41 AM PST by Truth29
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To: knarf

Cuba is a communist country and the people have approved and allowed it for a generation - this is what they want - who are you to be critical of their culture and what they have and what they don’t have.


4 posted on 02/20/2014 5:57:18 AM PST by edcoil ( "All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." - Blaise Pascal)
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To: SeekAndFind

5 posted on 02/20/2014 6:01:42 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s noteworthy that sugar, Cuba’s number one export product, is one of the items being rationed.


6 posted on 02/20/2014 6:03:12 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: edcoil
“The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.”-Abraham Lincoln

7 posted on 02/20/2014 6:03:30 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: SeekAndFind

Great article!


8 posted on 02/20/2014 6:03:39 AM PST by mgist (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And a Central American friend (for many years) of mine told me last night that there are reports of 60,000 Cuban troops either in Venezuela or on the way.

Cuba has been getting a lot of free Venezuelan oil from Chavez/Venezuela. The Commies must keep that advantage at any cost.

And with Obozo at the helm, there will be NO preventative measures by the US.

May God help us all.


9 posted on 02/20/2014 6:04:07 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: SeekAndFind

And I suspect the report is accurate. I was told by the Chief Engineer at Radio Havana that he supplemented his diet by a food plot outside the city. And used sugar cane to supplement his died, he rode to work on a bicycle. He did not live close to work.

Think about this, the chief engineer for the national radio station. Told me 15 years ago about diet problems and issues driving back and forth to work on his bicycle.

Communism is Evil.


10 posted on 02/20/2014 6:07:33 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“an effort to destroy the will of a population to resist tyranny through denial of the most essential substances necessary to maintain life and strength. “

And when U.S. foodstamp use is up to 100%, the gate will begin to close...


11 posted on 02/20/2014 6:08:14 AM PST by fruser1
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To: edcoil
What a “F”ing” idiotic statement! TROLL!
12 posted on 02/20/2014 6:24:38 AM PST by WellyP (question!)
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To: WellyP

I guess you’re too stupid to know sarcasm that you newbies need help


13 posted on 02/20/2014 6:30:25 AM PST by edcoil ( "All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." - Blaise Pascal)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, in fact, the typical communist practice of starving the underclass is something that has always existed in every persistently successful civilization. If you do not starve the underclass, you devolve. It is happening to us now. The next generation of civilization will come from cultures that understand this.

Scary, but true.


14 posted on 02/20/2014 6:35:43 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: edcoil

Where / when did I criticize ?


15 posted on 02/20/2014 6:40:37 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: edcoil

Not a “Newbie”, been in here for many years. Didn’t look, read or smell like sarcasm ... you hit a sore spot. I greatly look forward to “pi$$ing on the Castros’s graves!


16 posted on 02/20/2014 6:46:19 AM PST by WellyP (question!)
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To: WellyP

That, would be up to the people there.


17 posted on 02/20/2014 6:47:09 AM PST by edcoil ( "All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." - Blaise Pascal)
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To: edcoil

The nice thing about sarcasm is no one really knows if you are being sarcastic or not. It’s fun to watch the one’s who don’t get it run in circles, and and it is equally fun to watch the one’s who do get it go back and forth wondering if you were being doubly sarcastic or merely sarcastic.


18 posted on 02/20/2014 6:49:20 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: SeekAndFind

Soooo, why don’t we end it by ending the embargo against Cuba?
I know they stole people’s stuff, but, hey!, that is what governments do...
I hate commies more than the next guy, but the best way to fix it seems to be free trade.


19 posted on 02/20/2014 7:01:09 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Born to Conserve

Sounds like something Rava would say.


20 posted on 02/20/2014 7:12:19 AM PST by onedoug
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To: WellyP
Agreed.

I went to Cuba on a mission trip and most Cubans are very cynical of their government. We don't like the parts of our government that we have to have interaction with; the post office, DMV, and now 0bamacare are not respected and have become a punchline. Imagine if just about EVERYTHING was run by the government and it is no wonder why the average Cuban doesn't like their government very much.

the average worker makes about $10 a month, a doctor $20-25, but the police get $50; and like us they know why you pay the police so much more than everyone else.

21 posted on 02/20/2014 7:39:29 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: SeekAndFind
...Cubans are not allowed to eat beef. Instead, what beef there is in Cuba is reserved for the nation’s rulers and for tourists who can pay for it with foreign exchange while staying at the all-inclusive resort hotels. It is in fact illegal to sell beef to a Cuban...

Guess there's not much difference between the mentality of 'liberal elites' and 'communist elites'... Our liberal elites would do this to us if they had the power.

22 posted on 02/20/2014 8:02:32 AM PST by GOPJ ( America's drifting into totalitarianism because the left's exploitation of social failures.Greenfi)
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To: Texas Fossil
Communism is Evil

It's the favorite horse for totalitarians to ride because it so effectively fools people in the 'take over' stage. You're right Texas - it's evil.

23 posted on 02/20/2014 8:04:58 AM PST by GOPJ ( America's drifting into totalitarianism because the left's exploitation of social failures.Greenfi)
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To: GOPJ

Totalitarianism in all it’s forms is evil.

Progressive, Socialist, Marxist, Communist, Fascist, Dictator, Islamist

ALL EVIL.


24 posted on 02/20/2014 8:08:05 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!)
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To: Little Ray

RE: Soooo, why don’t we end it by ending the embargo against Cuba?

How sure are we that the goods coming from America will be used to help the starving instead of the elites?


25 posted on 02/20/2014 8:09:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t think this is news is it? Kids only get milk til age 7. Thats been going on forever.


26 posted on 02/20/2014 8:41:16 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Unlike aid, which would be controlled by the Cuban State, at least some of the goods and revenue from commerce would, inevitably, make it into the hands of average Cubans.


27 posted on 02/20/2014 8:42:26 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: Little Ray

How can trade be done with Cuba under a regime that controls everything?


28 posted on 02/20/2014 8:48:03 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What is the State going to do with goods? We’re not talking about “free stuff” that they can steal and re-sell. They will need stuff to trade.
In the end, they’ll need the average Cubans to handle the stuff, and create the goods (cane sugar, among other things...). They will give them some sort of access to the goods.


29 posted on 02/20/2014 8:58:15 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: SeekAndFind

BM


30 posted on 02/20/2014 9:47:14 AM PST by Para-Ord.45 (Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: All

I heard Mayor Bloomberg is concerned about the excess sugar in the monthly rations and positively livid about the amount of salt.


31 posted on 02/20/2014 11:00:42 AM PST by pluvmantelo (The thing of it is, we must live with the living- Michel de Montaigne)
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To: pluvmantelo

A modest proposal: the peons should just live on air; it is cheaper and very healthy.


32 posted on 02/20/2014 11:34:19 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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