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Senate Democrats: Why Didn't Someone Tell Us Obamacare Would Cut Medicare?
NRO ^ | February 20, 2014 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 02/20/2014 6:59:30 AM PST by Cheerio

The National Republican Senatorial Committee points out that North Carolina Sen. Kay Hagan and other vulnerable Senate Democrats are now whacking the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid… for enacting changes required by Obamacare. Hey, Senator Hagan, if you want to blame someone, blame the foolish or dishonest lawmakers who voted for the law!

Wait a minute, that’s you!

In 2009, Senator Kay Hagan (D-NC) promised North Carolinians who depend on Medicare that she was going to “protect Medicare” and that they would “not see a drop in their Medicare coverage.”


But in 2010 Kay Hagan voted to slash Medicare Advantage to pay for ObamaCare. (H.R. 4872, CQ Vote #72: Motion agreed to 56-42: R 0-40; D 54-2; I 2-0, 3/24/10, Hagan Voted Yea)


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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: corruption; democrats; demsenate; hagan; medicare; obamacare; senate; unexpected
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In North Carolina 463,159 seniors depend on Medicare Advantage plans (28% of all Medicare enrollees).


According to America’s Health Insurance Plans, in North Carolina, seniors on Medicare Advantage plans experienced cost increases and benefit cuts of an estimated $50-60 per month as a result of this year’s 6 percent cut to the program due to ObamaCare.

1 posted on 02/20/2014 6:59:31 AM PST by Cheerio
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To: Cheerio

Clearly they passed it and still have not read it.


2 posted on 02/20/2014 7:02:32 AM PST by edcoil ( "All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone." - Blaise Pascal)
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To: Cheerio

Hey, whats the problem? AARP gets rich, and funnels $$ back to O-HOLE. Gee, how did that happen?


3 posted on 02/20/2014 7:03:07 AM PST by Lockbar (What Would Vlad The Impaler Do?)
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To: Cheerio

Maybe you should have read it before you voted it into law.


4 posted on 02/20/2014 7:03:18 AM PST by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy follow.)
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To: Cheerio

You’ve gotta be kidding me! They’re going to play dumb? Republicans/conservatives have been hammering the point that Medicare/Medicaid was going to get cut, but the media wouldn’t report that, and the administration denied it at every turn. They knew, and they boldly and unabashedly lied to the American people.

I hope there is no way they can escape their responsibility for this mess.


5 posted on 02/20/2014 7:03:45 AM PST by MNGal
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To: Cheerio

Kay Hagan is a lying Hag. NC can do better.


6 posted on 02/20/2014 7:06:03 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Cheerio

When is someone in the GOP going to point out that the whole purpose for getting rid of Medicare Advantage was to create a whole new version, sold by AARP and run by United Healthcare which are all SEIU employees.

This is why SEIU put it in Obamacare in the first place.
To unionize all future healthcare workers.


7 posted on 02/20/2014 7:09:42 AM PST by Zathras
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To: Cheerio

She’s a liar like the rest of the Rats. I remember this specific point being brought up leading up to the passage of the bill. There should be film footage somewhere of Obama addressing this issue. that would make a great campaign ad contrasted against her claiming ignorance.


8 posted on 02/20/2014 7:09:59 AM PST by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: MNGal
lol

the cuts to medicare were ALL the tea party rallies wanted to talk about !!!

In fact I actually lost a lot of interest in the Tea Party after attending several rallies once I realized most of the people there were just made about the cuts to medicare!

For a Democrat or ANYONE to claim they didn't know there were cuts to medicare in Obamacare is a flat out lie.

9 posted on 02/20/2014 7:11:31 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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10 posted on 02/20/2014 7:11:32 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: MNGal
Republicans/conservatives have been hammering the point that Medicare/Medicaid was going to get cut...

And they should keep on hammering. For a change, the Repubs have the chance to turn Medicare/Medicaid cuts on the Democrats with a simple political ad: Scene of an Obama look-a-like pushing granny in a wheelchair out of her house and into the street. Voice-over states Obamacare cuts Medicare and Medicaid. Cut to scene of Democrat candidate (from dog catcher to Senator) does not want to stop this. Cut to scene of Republican candidate wants America to be strong and save Medicare/Medicaid. 2014, game, set and match.

11 posted on 02/20/2014 7:11:33 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: Cheerio

Because you HAD to pass the bill before you could read it.


12 posted on 02/20/2014 7:12:58 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Cheerio

The simplest of political strategies could turn these incumbents to dust. Two options, they lied and shouldn’t be re-elected, or they were to stupid to know and are too stupid to be re-elected. There is no defense.


13 posted on 02/20/2014 7:13:33 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: MNGal

Yes, everything you said. They lied, they knew it, and they’re going to play the “we got tricked” game to save their seats. The worst part of if is...it doesn’t matter. Progressives vote dem no matter what, unions mostly go dem no matter what, and you can’t talk any sense into the uneducated masses. Add voter fraud and they’ve got little to worry about.

I plan to keep fighting, but honestly I think it’s just about hopeless at this point.


14 posted on 02/20/2014 7:13:37 AM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: MNGal

“I hope there is no way they can escape their responsibility for this mess.”

With the GOPe and the medias help they will just blame it on
the conservatives just like they blame Americas existence
for the failures of communism.


15 posted on 02/20/2014 7:14:19 AM PST by Slambat
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To: Cheerio

Ah yes, the old “we didn’t know” defense......................And many will actually believe them.


16 posted on 02/20/2014 7:14:42 AM PST by V_TWIN
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To: Cheerio
welllll..Didn't you read the bill, before you voted on it!

17 posted on 02/20/2014 7:14:47 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: Cheerio

This came out way before it was voted on and way before it was implemented.

if a politician cries foul for not knowing something that is out there for all to see, they must be REMOVED.


18 posted on 02/20/2014 7:16:14 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Cheerio

Maybe, they should have READ the bill before they passed it.

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Obamacare: A new surprise every day.


19 posted on 02/20/2014 7:16:27 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: MNGal

“I hope there is no way they can escape their responsibility for this mess.”

It will not be a national story. Individuals affected won’t know that it’s a systemic failure caused by Democrats. While Republicans could be hammering this point, they are busy trying to figure out how to make amnesty happen. And attacking the Tea Party.


20 posted on 02/20/2014 7:16:36 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Cheerio

DUMB BUTT you should have read the bill before you voted it into law. It not only effects Medicare but Military health care too. These are older FR threads on the subject with not just the medicare but business impact. I gathered all of them and kept them, they lead into other so named threads with more articles on them.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2613747/posts?page=3

Then you can add these to your ammo lists
Military Waste and Fraud Continue In the Middle of the Government Shutdown Washington’s Blog
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/10/wasted-military.html

http://www.reuters.com/investigates/pentagon/#article/part1

Mugging the Military
http://www.ijreview.com/2012/06/9466-mugging-soldiers/

Mugging our Troops
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/pentagon/#article/part1

0bama to Force Military Families Away From Tricare ...By Tripling Their Fees.
6/29/12
Administration officials told Congress that one goal of the increased fees is to force military retirees to reduce their involvement in Tricare and eventually opt out of the program in favor of alternatives established by the 2010 Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare.”

Military Pay Chart: http://www.militaryfactory.com/military_pay_scale.asp

Medicare And Medicaid Fraud Is Costing Taxpayers Billions
http://www.forbes.com/sites/merrillmatthews/2012/05/31/medicare-and-medicaid-fraud-is-costing-taxpayers-billions/

How big is Medicare fraud?
http://www.bankrate.com/financing/retirement/how-big-is-medicare-fraud/

Anchor Baby Outrage: Americans Pay BILLIONS for Illegal Alien Births (Video) http://toprightnews.com/?p=1333
Not only do we pay for them to be born here, then there is the food stamps, welfare, Medicaid, cell phones, school and the Judicial system and I am sure many more we could add that ILLEGAL INVADERS are not entitled to.


21 posted on 02/20/2014 7:16:38 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: MNGal

You’ve gotta be kidding me! They’re going to play dumb?

Damn right they are. And the worst part of this is they will get away with it.


22 posted on 02/20/2014 7:16:56 AM PST by lesko
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To: Savage Beast

Well.... there IS something to be said for actually READING this stuff FIRST!!! :)

I would have thought THAT is your job as a representative of the people who SENT you to DC!!


23 posted on 02/20/2014 7:17:26 AM PST by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Cheerio

Of course, she knew! Our Senator Nelson, dummy that he is, got Florida exempt from MA cuts for awhile.....don’t know how long...


24 posted on 02/20/2014 7:18:34 AM PST by jch10 (John Beohner has got to be removed from the Speaker position.)
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To: Lockbar

BINGO!, I send all those member request pre paid envelopes back to them full of paper trash. Let them keep paying for it. I shred the membership cards. Got hubby to drop his enrollment too.


25 posted on 02/20/2014 7:18:37 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: Cheerio

Hey Senate Democrats - why didn’t you read the bill? Isn’t that your job?


26 posted on 02/20/2014 7:19:19 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: Gaffer

Dems can feign ignorance of Obamacare.

Will their constituents buy that?

Dems up for reelection can try to distance themselves from Obama and Obamacare.

Will their constituents buy that?

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If Obama can feign ignorance on early every issue, surely the Dems can also.


27 posted on 02/20/2014 7:19:50 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Cheerio

You had to pass it to see what’s in it. You were warned.........................


28 posted on 02/20/2014 7:19:54 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Cheerio

It is a real shame that it is illegal to just start shooting these bastards.


29 posted on 02/20/2014 7:21:02 AM PST by ZX12R (Never forget the heroes of Benghazi, who were abandoned to their deaths by Obama)
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To: Cheerio

This is their best “excuse?”


30 posted on 02/20/2014 7:24:43 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: lesko

“Damn right they are. And the worst part of this is they will get away with it.”

You are probably right. I wish the Republicans were better “fighters” similar to Ted Cruz. Conservatives like Ted’s spunk and what he has to say, but the media is on complete “bash mode” when they cover him at all. That’s not a good situation when it comes to conveying information to the uninformed masses. If a statement of fact comes from a conservative, they are immediately demeaned and discredited.


31 posted on 02/20/2014 7:25:53 AM PST by MNGal
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To: TomGuy
Will their constituents buy that?

Frankly, to be a Democrat politician, or a constituent, REQUIRES suspension of all reasoning capacity.

Democrats are driven by TWO things:

For politicians it is greed, avarice, envy, hate and power and control over others' lives.

For their constituents, it is primarily greed coupled with sloth, both ruled by abject stupidity.

32 posted on 02/20/2014 7:26:46 AM PST by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Cheerio
And you wonder why a LOT of Democrats are telling President Obama to stay away during the 2014 Congressional election cycle.
33 posted on 02/20/2014 7:27:17 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: edcoil
Clearly they passed it and still have not read it.

With the string of upwards of 30 EW's, this is clear evidence that they didn't read it purposely, as they knew the ACA would be changing anyway. Why read what in effect is a moving target?

Executive Whims = EWs.

34 posted on 02/20/2014 7:27:35 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Cheerio

The information was in the headlines and widely discussed before the democrats passed the Obamacare bill.

But while being wined, dined, and having their pockets stuffed with cash by the lobbyists pushing the bill they were too busy to learn about any of the actual content.


35 posted on 02/20/2014 7:29:22 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria (& Eric Holder))
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To: Cheerio

I think they fully expected that they would be able to move a half trillion dollars from Medicare to Obamacare to get Obamacare’s net expenses under the magical one trillion dollars (said with Dr. Evil emphasis) and then later add the half trillion dollars back to Medicare and brag how they both saved Medicare and fully funded Obamacare (hey, you with the green eye shade... step away from the accounts book, you don’t need to read that). But they lost control of Congress in 2010 so they couldn’t make the final moves of their game of three card monte. Now they have to deny they were playing that game at any time.


36 posted on 02/20/2014 7:35:36 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: MNGal

“Republicans/conservatives have been hammering the point that Medicare/Medicaid was going to get cut, but “


Medicaid was threatened with cuts?

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37 posted on 02/20/2014 7:35:52 AM PST by Mears
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To: Cheerio

Were these liars asleep when conservatives were warning that hundreds of billions were being taken from Medicare to make the CBO’s fraudulent prediction that ObamaCare would less than a trillion dollars seem possible? Any senator who didn’t pay attention should be fired in their primary.


38 posted on 02/20/2014 7:38:10 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
"NC can do better."

You would think so, but will they?

39 posted on 02/20/2014 7:38:39 AM PST by buckalfa (Tilting at Windmills)
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To: All
EVEN THOUGH REPUBLICANS AND TEA PARTIERS WERE HAMMERING OBAMA FOR CUTTING MEDICARE TO PAY FOR OBAMACARE----DEMOCRATS WERE "NOT TOLD" OBAMA'S WONDERFUL HEALTHCARE WOULD DECIMATE MEDICARE.

(Sniffle) sap-happy Dems never figured the snarky Obama/Care proviso to cut $780 million out of Medicare woukld actually h-u-r-t anybody (sob).

DEMOCRATS FACE THE MUSIC In 2009, Senator Kay Hagan (D-NC) promised North Carolinians who depend on Medicare that she was going to “protect Medicare” and that they would “not see a drop in their Medicare coverage.”
 But in 2010 Kay Hagan voted to slash Medicare Advantage to pay for ObamaCare. (H.R. 4872, CQ Vote #72: Motion agreed to 56-42: R 0-40; D 54-2; I 2-0, 3/24/10, Hagan Voted Yea)


SIGNING "THE BIG EFFIN' DEAL" (now known as "The Big Effin' Debacle")

"Those Democrats leering over my shoulder owe me bigtime.
The healthcare bill insures we get a permanent Democratic majority."

" All except those Tea Party types, swallowed hook, line and sinker my promises that they could:

(1) keep their existing health plans,
(2) keep their own doctors that they like,
(3) keep their 25-year-olds on the family health plan,
(4) never be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition,
(5) sign up instantly on my tech-savvy government Web site,
(6) buy insurance only after becoming seriously ill."
(7) save $2,500 in annual premiums in the bargain....
(8) All without any new taxes."

"Them sonovagun Tea Partiers will rue the day they criticized my wonderful bill."

40 posted on 02/20/2014 7:39:51 AM PST by Liz
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To: brownsfan

It will not be a national story. Individuals affected won’t know that it’s a systemic failure caused by Democrats. While Republicans could be hammering this point, they are busy trying to figure out how to make amnesty happen. And attacking the Tea Party.


Exactly. The GOP isn’t hammering on anything. They are tip toeing to the election and refuse to engage obama directly on anything.

Had leadership gotten behind Cruz and made populist items like the Vitter amendment central planks of the platform they just might have gotten their message through to the dim bulb demo. Instead, The GOP leadership chose the proven loser tip toe strategy. Now the Dems will be able to distract and lie their way to winning some elections they should have lost.


41 posted on 02/20/2014 7:40:39 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Mears

“Medicaid was threatened with cuts?”

I’m sorry....Just Medicare, that I know of.


42 posted on 02/20/2014 7:43:25 AM PST by MNGal
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To: All
A FRIENDLY REMINDER TO DEMOCRATS: You also voted for all of this: (1) throwing Americans off affordable health plans, (2) nationalizing 1/16 of the US economy, (3) abandoning the elderly and the chronically ill, (4) empowering IPAB's (Death Panels), and, (5) decimating intergenerational transfers of wealth.

REMEMBER THIS DEMOCRATS? As far back as 2008, at the Democrat presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama smilingly campaigned on the glories of his signature healthcare plan---ultimately enacted, by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote, into the "Affordable Care Act"

QUOTING 2008 OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if you’ve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I’m going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You’ll still have choice of doctor.” Repeated over and over / ---- with the promise that every American family would be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.

Significantly, Obamba NEVER corrected lock-stepping Democrats, all reading from the same Democrat talking points, all of them repeating the same Democrat promises---over and over again.

LOCK-STEPPING PARTY LOYALTY NOT SEEN SINCE 1930- 40's ERA EUROPE Obama And The Dems marched in lockstep. The persistent Dumbocrat drumbeat ---- in obeisance to Obama ---- kept ringing reassuringly in our ears: "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan."

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Ominous cogs in the Obamacare meat grinder----the inexorable forcing of Grandma/pa onto Medicaid--(like cattle herded single-file onto the narrow ramp---knowing the bolt is coming---but not able to do a thing about it). Medicaid conveniently groups together the sick and elderly---as Obama's IPAB board of radicals sit in judgment. Boobamba's Orwellian-speak---the progressive way of saying "Obamacare keeps costs down."

The infamous "Death Panels---are alive and well----but they're not called death panels......for obvious reasons. The treacherous Obama euphemistically calls his death panel "I-PAB----Individual Payment Advisory Board." I-PAB decides what to pay and who to pay---thus rationing medical care to sick oldsters. Obamacare "allows" states to expand their Medicaid recipients pool. Under Obamacare, Washington now covers about 1/2 the cost of Medicaid enrollees.

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What is I-PAB?

When you find out about IPAB, you will not believe it - but it’s r-e-a-l.... a new type of government agency. IPAB (Independent Payment Advisory Board) is the first agency of the “fifth branch” of govt.

1) It will make all important health care decisions by authorizing payment or not.
2) It is not funded by Congress and cannot have its budget reviewed or changed.
3) Its membership cannot be changed by future Presidents,
4) It cannot be repealed by Congress, except for a six month window in 2017.
5) Its decisions are not subject to judicial review.
6) It is not authorized by the Constitution, and is therefore immune to Constitutional processes.

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Why is Obamacre herding seniors WITH ASSETS onto Medicaid---a program structured for the poor? Can you say redistribution of wealth? Herding the elderly with assets into Medicaid has ominous consequences that are intriguing to the left. B/c assets, perhaps a home owned free and clear, securities, annuities, investment property, can be seized to pay for govt treatment.

Thus intergenerational transfers of wealth (a longtime progressive bugaboo)----are decimated (grandma/pa's holdings go to the govt---not to you).

43 posted on 02/20/2014 7:44:47 AM PST by Liz
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To: All
O/CARE A BLUNDER OF CEAUSESCUIAN PROPORTIONS Remember then-Majority leader Pelosi saying they must pass the O-care bill so they can find out what’s in it? That was then. This is now......we must now wait 1-2 decades for its "goodness" to rollout.

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As far back as 2008, at the presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama advanced his signature healthcare plan---ultimately enacted, by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote, into the "Affordable Care Act"

QUOTING 2008 OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if you’ve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I’m going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You’ll still have choice of doctor.” Repeated over and over ---- with the promise that every American family would be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.

Significantly, Obamba NEVER corrected lock-stepping Democrats, all reading from the same Democrat talking points, all of them repeating the same Democrat promises---over and over again.

LOCK-STEPPING PARTY LOYALTY NOT SEEN SINCE 1930-40's ERA EUROPE Obama And the Dems marched in lockstep.....the persistent Dumbocrat drumbeat ---- in obeisance to Obama ---- kept ringing reassuringly in our ears: "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan."

SEN. HARRY REID (D-Nev.): “In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09)

SEN. RICHARD DURBIN: “We believe — and we stand by this — if you like your current health insurance plan, you will be able to keep it, plain and simple, straightforward.” (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6401, 6/10/09)

SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): “If you like your insurance, you keep it.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/29/09)

SEN. PATTY MURRAY (D-Wash.): “Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it.” (Sen. Murray, Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09)

SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-Mont.): “That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it.” (Sen. Baucus, Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10)

SEN. TOM HARKIN (D-Iowa): “One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it; thus, the term ‘grandfathered plans.’ If you have a plan you like — existing policies — you can keep them. … we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in.” (Sen. Harkin, Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10)

THEN-REP. TAMMY BALDWIN (D-Wis.): “Under the bill, if you like the insurance you have now, you may keep it and it will improve.” (Rep. Baldwin, Press Release, 3/18/10)

SEN. MARK BEGICH (D-Alaska): “If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that. If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want of ideas, make sure you keep it. That you can keep who you want.” (Sen. Begich, Townhall Event, 7/27/09)

SEN. MICHAEL BENNET (D-Colo.): “We should begin with a basic principle: if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them as well. We will not take that choice away from you.” (Sen. Bennet, Press Release, 6/11/09)

SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D-Calif.): “So we Democrats want people to be able to keep the health care they have. And the answer to that is choice of plans. And in the exchange, we’re going to have lots of different plans, and people will be able to keep the health care coverage they need and they want.” (Sen. Boxer, Press Release, 2/8/11)

SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D-Ohio): “Our Democrat bill says if you have health insurance and you like it, you can keep it…”(Sen. Brown, Congressional Record, S.12612, 12/7/09)

SEN. BEN CARDIN (D-Md.): “For the people of Maryland, this bill will provide a rational way in which they can maintain their existing coverage…” (Sen. Cardin, Congressional Record, S.13798, 12/23/09)

SEN. BOB CASEY (D-Pa.): “I also believe this Democrat legislation and the bill we are going to send to President Obama this fall will also have secure choices. If you like what you have, you like the plan you have, you can keep it. It is not going to change.” (Sen. Casey, Congressional Record, S.8070, 7/24/09)

SEN. KAY HAGAN (D-N.C.): ‘People who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it’ “We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance they’re happy with can keep it while also providing a backstop option for people without access to affordable coverage.” (“Republicans Vent As Other Compromise Plans Get Aired,” National Journal’s Congress Daily, 6/18/09)

SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-La.): “If you like the insurance that you have, you’ll be able to keep it.” (MSNBC’s Hardball, 12/16/09)

SEN. PAT LEAHY (D-Vt.): “[I]f you like the insurance you now have, keep the insurance you have.” (CNN’s “Newsroom,” 10/22/09)

SEN. BOB MENENDEZ (D-N.J.): “If you like what you have, you get to keep it” “Menendez is a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which is expected to release a bill later this week. He stressed that consumers who are satisfied with their plans won’t have to change. ‘If you like what you have, you get to keep it,’ he said.” (“Health Care Plan Would Help N.J., Menendez Says,” The Record, 6/19/09)

SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D-Oreg.): “[E]nsuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it” “The HELP Committee bill sets forward a historic Democrat plan that will, for the first time in American history, give every American access to affordable health coverage, reduce costs, and increase choice, while ensuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it.” (Sen. Merkley, Press Release, 7/15/09)

SEN. BARBARA MIKULSKI (D-Md.): “It means that if you like the insurance you have now, you can keep it.” (Sen. Mikulski, Press Release, 12/24/09)

SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-W.Va.): “I want people to know, the President’s promise that if you like the coverage you have today you can keep it is a pledge we intend to keep.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Hearing, 9/23/09)

SEN. JACK REED (D-R.I.): “If you like the insurance you have, you can choose to keep it.” (Sen. Reed, Town Hall Event, 6/25/09)

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-Vt.): “‘If you have coverage you like, you can keep it,’ says Sen. Sanders.” (“Sick And Wrong,” Rolling Stone, 4/5/10)

SEN. JEANNE SHAHEEN (D-N.H.): ‘if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it’ “My understanding … is that … if you have health coverage that you like you can keep it. As I said, you may have missed my remarks at the beginning of the call, but one of the things I that I said as a requirement that I have for supporting a Democrat bill is that if you have health coverage that you like you should be able to keep that. …under every scenario that I’ve seen, if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it.” (Sen. Shaheen, “Health Care Questions From Across New Hampshire,” Accessed 11/13/13)

SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D-Mich.): “As someone who has a large number of large employers in my state, one of the things I appreciate about the Democrat chairman’s remark is — is the grandfathering provisions, the fact that the people in my state, 60 percent of whom have insurance, are going to be able to keep it. And Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that. That’s a strong commitment. It’s clear in the bill … I appreciate the strong commitment on your part and the president to make sure that if you have your insurance you can keep it. That’s the bottom line for me.” (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09)

SEN. JON TESTER (D-Mont.): “‘If you like your coverage, you’ll be able to keep it,’ Tester said, adding that if Medicare changes, it will only become stronger”. (“Tester In Baker To Discuss Health Care,” The Fallon County Times, 11/20/09)

SEN. TOM UDALL (D-N.Mex.): “Some worried reform would alter their current coverage. It won’t. If you like your current plan, you can keep it.” (“What I Learned: About Health Care Reform This Summer, By Your Lawmakers In Congress,” Albuquerque Journal, 9/8/09)

SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D-R.I.): “..it honors President Obama’s programs and the promise of all of the Presidential candidates that if you like the plan you have, you get to keep it. You are not forced out of anything.” (Sen. Whitehouse, Congressional Record, S.8668, 8/3/09)

Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) the 60th vote on Obamacare: "people who are happy with their current plan, wouldn't need to change it."
FRANKEN YOUTUBE SOUND BITE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZmAYYNz8Ihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?

44 posted on 02/20/2014 7:49:18 AM PST by Liz
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To: Zathras
When is someone in the GOP going to point out that the whole purpose for getting rid of Medicare Advantage was to create a whole new version, sold by AARP and run by United Healthcare which are all SEIU employees. This is why SEIU put it in Obamacare in the first place. To unionize all future healthcare workers.

This needed to be repeated.
45 posted on 02/20/2014 7:50:20 AM PST by wolfpat (Not to know what has been transacted in former times is to be always a child. -- Cicero)
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To: Gaffer
Gaffer:" Because you HAD to pass the bill before you could read it."

EXACTLY TRUE !!
and it still wasn't complete after it was passed into law.
And they are still re-writing the bill even now !!

46 posted on 02/20/2014 7:52:00 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Zathras

Massive takeover by government. They will now be GSE’s like Fanny and Freddie.


47 posted on 02/20/2014 7:59:44 AM PST by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: Cheerio
Butt wipes. ANY congress-critter who says something like this should be impeached and thrown out of office for negligence and direlection of duty.
48 posted on 02/20/2014 8:11:02 AM PST by joethedrummer
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To: MNGal
I hope there is no way they can escape their responsibility for this mess.

Sadly, our media are corrupt and politicized, an event never imagined by the Founders. I'm sure they'll find a way to blame Republicans for those lies.

49 posted on 02/20/2014 8:12:12 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Cheerio
Well your dear leader queen nancy said you would have to pass it to find out what's in it.
You passed it and guess what? You don't like whats in it. . . .
Gomer SEZ
SURPRISE! SURPRISE! SURPRISE!
50 posted on 02/20/2014 8:25:24 AM PST by DeaconRed (Thank you GOD for George Washington and all our founding Fathers. Tell Lucifer to take 0 back.)
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