Posted on 02/20/2014 9:20:13 PM PST by Olog-hai
Hollywood was an invention meant to help Jews “take over” America, according to Hezbollah’s television channel.
Al-Manar TV, in a report, titled “Jews, Movies, Hollywoodism, and the American Dream”, claimed Hollywood was a Jewish invention, the goals of which were “to take over the greatest superpower in the world, to control all aspects of its daily life, and to harness it in the service of Jewish goals worldwide.”
Superman, invented by “the Jews”, is part of this plan as well, according to the Hezbollah report. …
(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...
Quite. He was Jewish only in the ethnic sense of the word. I merely commented that those songs were NOT written by a Christian (which you cannot deny), and that they appear to be intended to distract from the Christian nature of Christmas and Easter (a reasonable opinion). You brought up conspiracies, not me ... don't try to put words in my keyboard. Since you bring it up, though, I'll say this: I don't think Irving Berlin thought much about the social effect of his effort ... he was just writing what sold in New York City ... and quite by accident polluted the rest of America with his drivel. The idea that he was deliberately engaged in a grand conspiracy is laughable.
Gay Communist JINOs (Jewish in name only).
Funny you say that and imply that he was anti-Christian too. Think less about who sold and more about who bought; they knew what they were buying after all, and it is way less “poisonous” when compared to the real drivel thrown at us by the left-wing establishment even going back to Berlin’s heyday.
Jewish only in the ethnic sense of the word
Perhaps intended to distract his audience from Christian faith, or perhaps he just couldn’t warm up to beliefs that he did not hold, so did the best he could to write a secularized Christmas song for the sake of his lord and savior the dollar bill. The latter explanation is the most likely. The effect it had, well...gay marriage, anyone? The notion of writing songs to which scantily clad women dance around obscenely and suggestively with men on a stage is really anathema to both Judaism and Christianity. The notion of writing a Broadway melody that reflects faith in anything remotely Christian or Jewish is almost impossible to imagine. It’s like dreaming of a bloodless Ramadan.
Mr. "Berlin" (not his real name) was born was of Russian Jewish ancestry. That is factual assertion ... Do you claim it is false?
Mr. "Berlin" did not, as an adult, practice the Jewish religion. That is also a factual assertion ... Do you claim it is false?
I'm not implying that he promoted secularism in place of Christianity. I'm stating it explicitly, and I offer his own work as evidence. If you like, I'll beat on Bing Crosby for that execrable dreck "Silver Bells" as well ... and in his case, it's even worse: he was nominally Christian.
real drivel thrown at us by the left-wing establishment
"Well, they did it too!"
Garbage is garbage, and obscuring Christian holidays with secularist dreck is anti-Christian. Doesn't matter who's doing it, I'm still against it.
What a nutty premise.
Oh, for Pete’s sake.
“Bah, humbug!”
The notion of writing songs to which scantily clad women dance around obscenely and suggestively with men on a stage is really anathema to both Judaism and Christianity. The notion of writing a Broadway melody that reflects faith in anything remotely Christian or Jewish is almost impossible to imagine.
LOL. Well put.
With what, specifically, that I have posted, do you disagree?
Everything.
Everything? Really?
Do you assert that “White Christmas” and “Easter Parade” were written by a Christian?
Do you assert that they have anything to do with the birth of Jesus of Nazareth, or the resurrection from the dead of Jesus of Nazareth (respectively)?
Do you assert that they do not distract from the religious aspects of the holidays popularly known as “Christmas” and “Easter”?
Do you assert that they do not appeal to nostalgic sentimentality and urban snobbery (respectively)?
Really?
Like the old Camel cigarette commercial says, “I’d walk a mile for a Camel, and the camels were nervous”.
You’re quite the crusader, it appears. Be sure that your zeal for God is according to knowledge, because it seems to make you hate, which is of the enemy. None of the apostles went after any of their Jewish brethren in this fashion.
If you aren't clear on my thoughts or motives, ask. Don't attribute.
Ah, a noob lectures about what the mods do or don’t do.
When someone does not give a “non-Christian” the benefit of the doubt when it comes to things Christian, that is a very truculent attitude against “non-Christians” of a certain stripe, namely those spoken of by Hezbollah. And seeing such in a thread about an attack on such people by Hezbollah looks like whomever posted it is in sympathy with Hezbollah. There is no other way to interpret it.
Conversation is ended. Goodbye.
Do I hear violins . . . ?
The obvious effect of Irving Berlin’s work was to bring in big crowds to watch shows with his lyrics. The secularization of Christmas took place over an extended period, perhaps going back to the 18th Century, and did not abruptly start with Irving Berlin. His songs were not a lone voice in a devoutly religious world, either. Miracle On 34th Street was part of the process, too, with Christmas taken over by Santa Clause. So was It’s a Wonderful Life, showing an angel with no angelical aura. So was A Christmas Carrol, with ghosts showing up to rub the protagonist’s nose in his own mean-spiritedness. So was Thomas Jefferson, who encouraged his state to defund their established, government-sponsored church, which promptly went bankrupt.
Are you actually blaming Irving Berlin for providing lovely, catching tunes and imagery-rich lyrics related to these two holidays that were official national holidays that enveloped all Americans of all faiths?
I see it differently from you: Irving Berlin brought non-Christians to feel positive about these Christian holidays. After all everyone had off work, everyone saws the ads, everyone saw the Christmas trees and the Easter bunnies and easter eggs. He did the opposite of what Barack Obama is doing in his balkanizing Americans.
You are way too bitter if you are upset that a musically talented, immigrant secular Jew, thrilled with the freedom of his new home, helped bring the country together with these memorable tunes and lyrics. He knew that Christians themselves had their own songs and hymns about Christmas and Easter. He surely was not trying to replace them.
If he was only after the money, he’d have gone whole hog and talked about nothing but Jesus and written some incredible music. That was not his forte; his forte was popular songs that appeal to all Americans of all walks of life. Like it or not, “White Christmas” and “Easter Parade” are high up on the list of the warmest lifetime favorites of both Christians and Jews and all other patriotic, tolerant Americans. They are just great songs.
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