Posted on 02/22/2014 1:12:09 PM PST by Robwin
You think 61% of the farmers in Cal voted for Obama? Save your sympathy for Cal, many of those lost crops go out of state.
new water source in north san diego county
Instead of the high speed train we should be building 5-6 of these plants.
Heres some info on desalinization
http://www.pacinst.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/desalination_report3.pdf
Carlsbad Cal is building a plant which is slated to open in 2016, 16 years after the proposal was approved by the city. Administrative hearings and court processes in which environmental groups got several bites of the apple trying to shoot it down.
It will suppjy up to 10% of the countys water.
What happens to the salt?
The desalination plant typically uses three kilograms of seawater to produce 1 kilogram of fresh water. The extracted salt dissolves in the excess sea water used in the process to form so-called brine. The brine is returned to the sea where it is diluted again in its natural medium.
Can salt be recovered?
The usual desalination processes do not provide for such recovery. Whereas they concentrate seawater 1.5 times, recovery of salt would require seawater to be concentrated ten times. Under such conditions the first crystals would appear in the brine. This would require a lot of energy and cannot be justified on an economic standpoint. Today whenever a large surface area is available close to a sunny seashore, salt pans, which make use of solar energy, are still the best method of salt production.
Nope. I’ve seen pictures and know what it is, it would be a good idea for someone who has a small back yard or (if it can stand the weight) a patio.
We have about an acre that is rowed-up and cultivatable. We could make more, but it means clearing out more stumps and blackberries.
Anyone know why Obma cam out to the Central Valey last week? Was it to tell the farmers “tough sh!#?
borrow that backhoe then
:p
bump
government should not own land it doesn’t need for a Constitutional purpose in my opinion
Stealing that for my tagline :)
Central valley farmers didn’t vote for Obama ... you can take that to the bank.
However ...
Researching the federal law that established the US Bureau of Reclamation, originally called the US Reclamation Service, I discovered the following about that service. The US Reclamation Service was established under the federal Reclamation Act. And the possible constitutional problem with the Reclamation Act is that it provided funding for irrigation projects.
More specifically, and I don't know the details of these historical projects, bu if the federal irrigation projects were not done on the public use lands of the 5th Amendment, or in conjunction with the federal entities described in Clause 17 referenced above, then Congress arguably had no constitutional authority to appropriate tax dollars for such projects.
In fact, the delegates to the Constitutional Convention had discussed the idea of granting Congress the specific power to build canals, waterways historically the most economical way to move manufactured goods before superhighways were made. But the delegates to the Con-Con had decided not to grant Congress such powers. Here's a link to a related page.
Veto of federal public works bill
So the water now controlled by the Bureau of Reclamation is possibly an early example where Congress first needed to petition the States for an amendment to the Constitution which granted Congress the specific power to lay taxes to fund such projects, but neglected to do so.
Finally, it's disturbing that pro-one world government Progressive Movement was gaining momentum in 1902 when the Reclamation Act was established, the Progressive Movement evidenced by the constitutionally indefensible "private" Federal Reserve and the ratification of the misguided 16th and 17th Amendments in that era.
Last year they got 20% of the normal ration. This year they get 0%.
They took over all the puddles ...
I’d better quit peeing in my backyard.
Deep fried, to a nice crispy crunch...
Federal Water. Hmmm. Means “owned by the federal government”. I still cling to the quaint idea that the government belongs to us, the people. Therefore, the water belongs to the people. Quaint, but true. But you wouldn’t know it from the tyrannical way things operate now.
The Feds are setting up for a food crisis. Ultimately famine is a tool of the totalitarians to neutralize the population. Famine is coming to the USA. When inflation takes off food prices will go up much faster than others because farm land is being aggressively taken out of production by the Federal Government, either by denying water or by repurposing it to make “fuel.”
What isn’t delicious deep fried?
Yeah, provided you own some land. What about apartment and co-op dwellers? Duh.
Actually, it reduces water consumption and helps fertilize the flowers and shrubs. Just be careful not to create a wetland.
Amen and amen!
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