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Posted on 02/25/2014 11:17:31 AM PST by jazusamo
Full title: Col. Oliver North: 'There is no strategy' to the defense budget that reduces military to pre-WWII levels
VIDEO at link: Ollie North up to the 4:45 minute mark.
GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: Colonel Oliver North joins us. Nice to see you, Colonel.
LT. COL. OLIVER NORTH, HOST, 'WAR STORIES' & FORMERLY U.S. MARINE CORPS: Good to be with you but not on a day like this.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right. I was going to ask you two things. Two-part question. First, do we have to make cuts in the military? Is that smart and wise? And secondly, what do you think the proposed budget?
NORTH: I think the budget is terrible because it doesn't do the thing that defense budgets are supposed it to do and that is to support a national strategy. There is no strategy to this. Instead of deciding who our enemies and adversaries are and building a force capable of dealing with both, what they have done is they picked a number and then they backed into a budget. In other words, they backed into fore-structure based on the number instead of the other way around. Totally the opposite of what Ronald Reagan did.
President Reagan came to town, came to office promising to build a 600-ship Navy based on years and years of analysis that we needed a Navy that big to protect this country. He created millions of jobs, Greta. People forget that. It wasn't just a matter of putting more people in the military and paying us all better. It was a matter of building the capital equipment, ships, planes, trains, all this stuff that you need to make a military work. Reagan did it. They didn't. They are backing away from it.
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Actually there is a strategy, but Col. North is wise enough not to say what it is on television.
You got that right!
Hey Obama, appeasement leads to war. Yes, I know that's part of your plan, to destroy America.
A thing I pointed out yesterday, but do I get an interview on Fox? Nooooo...
Joking aside, this really is the crux of the matter. In the absence of a change in overall national strategy this is a useless gesture at best and potentially a very harmful one. OK, so we're going to cut the size of the Army. What about its current commitments? Sure, we can reduce the Navy to 8 carrier battle groups or less. What about its current commitments? And has anyone pointed out that you don't just stop spending money on this stuff, that it costs money to retire?
I'm hoping that this planning really has taken place and it is simply a failure to communicate. I'm hoping for the Easter Bunny, too.
There is a strategy:
it’s driven by the fact that we’re broke.
WW II used the draft to get all the troops needed and that didn’t include women, gays or Guard. Right now the army seems like a gig to create Generals and recycle them into commentators. Eisenhower and MacArthur served for the duration. The WW II system worked just fine - declare a war, get overwhelming force with the help of Rosie the Riveter and win it.
But Obama needs the money to pay for Obamacare....
The strategy is “F-— the military and give out more foodstamps.”
We’re broke because there are too many parasites and not enough producers.
Yep, and cutting to pre WWII levels could be suicide now with what’s taking place in the world.
And that includes wars that were not Constitutionally formally declared. Also throw in nation building and deficit trade financing. Spending on Americans should be the last item we cut.
Hey, he’s flexible.
Uh, there's definitely a strategy.
The military is loyal to the Constitution, and our wannabe Dictator in Chief views them as a threat to his ambitions.
Broke? Not according to the administration. They keep adding programs and debt like crazy. So the administration’s supposed strategy is not “we’re broke”. Their strategy is to gut the military because they despise the military and American “hegemony”. It also frees up money in their minds for even more spending.
I beg to differ with the esteemed Col.Oliver North!There is a”Strategy”and that is to make The United States of America into another”Third World Nation”!!!Obongo(and his gang)are succeeding beyond their WILDEST DREAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Other than supporting wars for the international corporations in the Middle east, the Bush administration followed the same strategy.
My holding is that the standing “administration” is irrelevant. The Big Money gets what it wants, regardless of the color of the face in the White House.
This has always been the way of things.
No argument here.
But the Constitution has long been disregarded by those profiting from government...perhaps even from the very beginning.
Then why not cut some parasites?
How is a militia going to defend against nuclear-tipped ICBMs?
“Other than supporting wars for the international corporations in the Middle east, the Bush administration followed the same strategy.
My holding is that the standing administration is irrelevant. The Big Money gets what it wants, regardless of the color of the face in the White House.
This has always been the way of things.”
Yeah man — it’s all about corporate greed, big oil, haliburton, fat cats and conspiracies involving the military industrial complex. Follow the money. Yeah - whatever
Bread and circuses: government checks and sports
these keep the peasants quiescent
The first lesson in Real Life after high school: money rules everything.
Too bad it doesn’t answer the question I asked.
parasites = peace in society
thought that was an answer
If the Guard wasn't used, why is there a monument to them at Omaha Beach?
Thought you were responding to #26, not #25.
“How is a militia going to defend against nuclear-tipped ICBMs?”
How are the police? How is the army? how is the navy going to defend against a nuclear-tipped ICBM?
Either the Constitutio9n is the supreme law of the land or it is not.
It’s an extremely dangerous World out there. Obama, and the Leftist’s currently holding our leash are doing their best to make it even more so.
Bringing down this country is their #1 goal. They might as well broadcast it across the World now as this action does.
A half-century of deterrence by a standing military force, funded one year at a time in keeping with constitutional limitations, has done the job so far.
Though The Won is doing his best to end that era.
Thanks for the ping, Jaz.
Obama is playing a big game of pick up sticks....we need to be ready when the stack collapses.
Most of us are too young to remember pre-WW2 USA, but us historians remember our military was in such shambles that they drilled back then with broom sticks rather than rifles.
Being attacked by enemies on our soil will be far more traumatic today than Pearl Harbor was then. It is a different world.
We need more Ukranian and Venezuelan refugees ......telling the fing truth.
I think the day will come when people will wish they had eliminated a standing army.
its driven by the fact that were broke.”
Actually it's driven by the fact that the left hates the military because:
1.) The military took an oath to support and defend something (the Constitution) created by a bunch of rich white old men who owned slaves
2.) Money spent on the military could be better spent giving “social handouts” to illegals and deadbeats in exchange for votes.
3.) Our military is hated by the very countries that the treasoncrats and RINO’s in this country idolize such as iran, north korea, china, venezuela, etc, etc.
And when that day comes we will eliminate the standing army.
One way or another.
It doesn’t mean you can not have a standing Army, it means that you can not have an open ended appropriation.
If you look at where most of the money is going
it’s headed towards non-military uses:
retirees, grossly-overpaid civilian contractors, internal “security” apparatus, foreign aid, etc.
Ships and planes cost a lot...and the time of huge fleets of either is over
We’re going through a painful period of transition in the country, from a republic to a plutocracy
And SF, surveillance tools and spies, and light internal security forces are the traditional weapons of plutocrats
/this did not start with us
Strategy or reason are not the issue. There is only one misguided thought.
War is obsolete. f there is no military, there can be no war.
It is that simple
Like Biden, Hagel is a fool
It's a small fraction of that now.
Perhaps the time of huge fleets of ships and planes is over, perhaps it is not.
Rudyard Kipling wrote nearly a century ago:
When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.Our problem is not that we spend too much on defense; our problem is that we have too many who vote for a living.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."
Below is a list of National Guard divisions, the theater in which they served, their activation, sent overseas, enter combat, and inactivation date(s):
26th Infantry - Eur - Jan 41, Sep 44, Oct 44, Dec 45
27th Infantry - Pac - Oct 40, Mar 42, Nov 43, Dec 45
28th Infantry - Eur - Feb 41, Oct 43, Jul 44, Dec 45
29th Infantry - Eur - Feb 41, Oct 42, Jun 44, Jan 46
30th Infantry - Eur - Sep 40, Feb 44, Jun 44, Nov 45
31st Infantry - Pac - Nov 40, Apr 44, Jul 44, Dec 45
32nd Infantry - Pac - Oct 40, May 42, Sep 42, Feb 46
33rd Infantry - Pac - Mar 41, Jul 43, Sep 44, Feb 46
34th Infantry - Med - Feb 41, Jan 42, Nov 42, Nov 45
35th Infantry - Eur - Dec 40, May 44, Jul 44, Dec 45
36th Infantry - Med & Eur - Nov 40, Apr 43, Sep 43, Dec 45
37th Infantry - Pac - Oct 40, Jun 42, Jul 43, Dec 45
38th Infantry - Pac - Jan 41, Jan 44, Jul 44, Nov 45
40th Infantry - Pac - Mar 41, Sep 42, Apr 44, Apr 46
41st Infantry - Pac - Sep 40, May 42, Jan 43, Dec 45
42nd Infantry - Eur - Jul 43, Dec 44, Dec 44, Jul 46
44th Infantry - Eur - Sep 40, Sep 44, Oct 44, Nov 45
45th Infantry - Med & Eur - Sep 40, Jan 43, Jul 43, Dec 45
Most of these units served in WW1, at least two served in Korea and/or Vietnam also. The 29th took part in the D-day landings in Normandy.
“but Col. North is wise enough not to say what it is on television.”
Why is it not wise to say it? What are we afraid of?
No argument here