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Col. Oliver North: 'There is no strategy' to the defense budget that reduces military to pre-WWII...
Fox News ^ | February 24, 2014 | Van Susteren/Oliver North

Posted on 02/25/2014 11:17:31 AM PST by jazusamo

Full title: Col. Oliver North: 'There is no strategy' to the defense budget that reduces military to pre-WWII levels

VIDEO at link: Ollie North up to the 4:45 minute mark.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: Colonel Oliver North joins us. Nice to see you, Colonel.

LT. COL. OLIVER NORTH, HOST, 'WAR STORIES' & FORMERLY U.S. MARINE CORPS: Good to be with you but not on a day like this.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. I was going to ask you two things. Two-part question. First, do we have to make cuts in the military? Is that smart and wise? And secondly, what do you think the proposed budget?

NORTH: I think the budget is terrible because it doesn't do the thing that defense budgets are supposed it to do and that is to support a national strategy. There is no strategy to this. Instead of deciding who our enemies and adversaries are and building a force capable of dealing with both, what they have done is they picked a number and then they backed into a budget. In other words, they backed into fore-structure based on the number instead of the other way around. Totally the opposite of what Ronald Reagan did.

President Reagan came to town, came to office promising to build a 600-ship Navy based on years and years of analysis that we needed a Navy that big to protect this country. He created millions of jobs, Greta. People forget that. It wasn't just a matter of putting more people in the military and paying us all better. It was a matter of building the capital equipment, ships, planes, trains, all this stuff that you need to make a military work. Reagan did it. They didn't. They are backing away from it.

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1 posted on 02/25/2014 11:17:31 AM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Actually there is a strategy, but Col. North is wise enough not to say what it is on television.


2 posted on 02/25/2014 11:19:19 AM PST by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: 2rightsleftcoast; abner; ACAC; advertising guy; amom; AnalogReigns; Anoreth; Arkinsaw; ...
OLIVER NORTH PING!

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3 posted on 02/25/2014 11:19:40 AM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: Steely Tom

You got that right!


4 posted on 02/25/2014 11:20:17 AM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo
The strategy is to fundamentally transform America. He is right on schedule.

Hey Obama, appeasement leads to war. Yes, I know that's part of your plan, to destroy America.

5 posted on 02/25/2014 11:25:29 AM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: jazusamo
...it doesn't do the thing that defense budgets are supposed it to do and that is to support a national strategy.

A thing I pointed out yesterday, but do I get an interview on Fox? Nooooo...

Joking aside, this really is the crux of the matter. In the absence of a change in overall national strategy this is a useless gesture at best and potentially a very harmful one. OK, so we're going to cut the size of the Army. What about its current commitments? Sure, we can reduce the Navy to 8 carrier battle groups or less. What about its current commitments? And has anyone pointed out that you don't just stop spending money on this stuff, that it costs money to retire?

I'm hoping that this planning really has taken place and it is simply a failure to communicate. I'm hoping for the Easter Bunny, too.

6 posted on 02/25/2014 11:26:39 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: jazusamo

There is a strategy:

it’s driven by the fact that we’re broke.


7 posted on 02/25/2014 11:26:43 AM PST by warchild9
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To: jazusamo

WW II used the draft to get all the troops needed and that didn’t include women, gays or Guard. Right now the army seems like a gig to create Generals and recycle them into commentators. Eisenhower and MacArthur served for the duration. The WW II system worked just fine - declare a war, get overwhelming force with the help of Rosie the Riveter and win it.


8 posted on 02/25/2014 11:30:07 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: jazusamo

But Obama needs the money to pay for Obamacare....


9 posted on 02/25/2014 11:30:52 AM PST by PGR88
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To: jazusamo

The strategy is “F-— the military and give out more foodstamps.”
That’s it.


10 posted on 02/25/2014 11:30:52 AM PST by servo1969
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To: warchild9; jazusamo
it’s driven by the fact that we’re broke.

We're broke because the feds spend most of our tax monies on items that are not constitutionally mandated.
11 posted on 02/25/2014 11:30:56 AM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

We’re broke because there are too many parasites and not enough producers.


12 posted on 02/25/2014 11:33:34 AM PST by warchild9
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To: Billthedrill

Yep, and cutting to pre WWII levels could be suicide now with what’s taking place in the world.


13 posted on 02/25/2014 11:35:24 AM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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14 posted on 02/25/2014 11:37:53 AM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: SoConPubbie
"We're broke because the feds spend most of our tax monies on items that are not constitutionally mandated. "

And that includes wars that were not Constitutionally formally declared. Also throw in nation building and deficit trade financing. Spending on Americans should be the last item we cut.

15 posted on 02/25/2014 11:38:40 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: jazusamo

Hey, he’s flexible.


16 posted on 02/25/2014 11:45:51 AM PST by Phillyred
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To: jazusamo
'There is no strategy' to the defense budget that reduces military to pre-WWII...

Uh, there's definitely a strategy.

The military is loyal to the Constitution, and our wannabe Dictator in Chief views them as a threat to his ambitions.

17 posted on 02/25/2014 11:50:42 AM PST by SIDENET
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To: Phillyred
only w/ the Moose/Reggie Love...

18 posted on 02/25/2014 11:51:22 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: warchild9

Broke? Not according to the administration. They keep adding programs and debt like crazy. So the administration’s supposed strategy is not “we’re broke”. Their strategy is to gut the military because they despise the military and American “hegemony”. It also frees up money in their minds for even more spending.


19 posted on 02/25/2014 11:58:36 AM PST by plain talk
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To: warchild9
We’re broke because there are too many parasites and not enough producers.

True and my approach would fix that. Only fund those items that are constitutionally mandated.

The military is one of the constitutionally mandated items.
20 posted on 02/25/2014 12:10:12 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: jazusamo

I beg to differ with the esteemed Col.Oliver North!There is a”Strategy”and that is to make The United States of America into another”Third World Nation”!!!Obongo(and his gang)are succeeding beyond their WILDEST DREAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


21 posted on 02/25/2014 12:34:25 PM PST by bandleader
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To: plain talk

Other than supporting wars for the international corporations in the Middle east, the Bush administration followed the same strategy.

My holding is that the standing “administration” is irrelevant. The Big Money gets what it wants, regardless of the color of the face in the White House.

This has always been the way of things.


22 posted on 02/25/2014 12:42:34 PM PST by warchild9
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To: SoConPubbie

No argument here.

But the Constitution has long been disregarded by those profiting from government...perhaps even from the very beginning.


23 posted on 02/25/2014 12:43:47 PM PST by warchild9
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To: jazusamo
Article One Section Eight, United States Constitution. clause 12 To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of money to that Use shall be for a longer term than two years; The founders never meant for us to have a standing army. They meant for the Militias to be the first and last lines of defense.
24 posted on 02/25/2014 12:46:48 PM PST by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: warchild9

Then why not cut some parasites?


25 posted on 02/25/2014 1:40:50 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

How is a militia going to defend against nuclear-tipped ICBMs?


26 posted on 02/25/2014 1:42:16 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: warchild9

“Other than supporting wars for the international corporations in the Middle east, the Bush administration followed the same strategy.

My holding is that the standing “administration” is irrelevant. The Big Money gets what it wants, regardless of the color of the face in the White House.

This has always been the way of things.”

Yeah man — it’s all about corporate greed, big oil, haliburton, fat cats and conspiracies involving the military industrial complex. Follow the money. Yeah - whatever


27 posted on 02/25/2014 1:51:45 PM PST by plain talk
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To: DuncanWaring

Bread and circuses: government checks and sports

these keep the peasants quiescent


28 posted on 02/25/2014 1:52:59 PM PST by warchild9
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To: plain talk

The first lesson in Real Life after high school: money rules everything.


29 posted on 02/25/2014 1:54:06 PM PST by warchild9
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To: warchild9

Nice answer.

Too bad it doesn’t answer the question I asked.


30 posted on 02/25/2014 2:03:55 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

parasites = peace in society

thought that was an answer


31 posted on 02/25/2014 2:05:06 PM PST by warchild9
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To: ex-snook
WW II used the draft to get all the troops needed and that didn’t include women, gays or Guard.

If the Guard wasn't used, why is there a monument to them at Omaha Beach?

32 posted on 02/25/2014 2:27:33 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: warchild9

Never mind.

Thought you were responding to #26, not #25.


33 posted on 02/25/2014 2:29:06 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

no ‘blem


34 posted on 02/25/2014 2:32:17 PM PST by warchild9
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To: DuncanWaring

“How is a militia going to defend against nuclear-tipped ICBMs?”

How are the police? How is the army? how is the navy going to defend against a nuclear-tipped ICBM?

Either the Constitutio9n is the supreme law of the land or it is not.


35 posted on 02/25/2014 6:00:13 PM PST by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: jazusamo

It’s an extremely dangerous World out there. Obama, and the Leftist’s currently holding our leash are doing their best to make it even more so.

Bringing down this country is their #1 goal. They might as well broadcast it across the World now as this action does.


36 posted on 02/25/2014 7:03:27 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

A half-century of deterrence by a standing military force, funded one year at a time in keeping with constitutional limitations, has done the job so far.

Though The Won is doing his best to end that era.


37 posted on 02/25/2014 7:30:19 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: jazusamo

Thanks for the ping, Jaz.

Obama is playing a big game of pick up sticks....we need to be ready when the stack collapses.


38 posted on 02/25/2014 8:18:16 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: jazusamo

Most of us are too young to remember pre-WW2 USA, but us historians remember our military was in such shambles that they drilled back then with broom sticks rather than rifles.

Being attacked by enemies on our soil will be far more traumatic today than Pearl Harbor was then. It is a different world.


39 posted on 02/25/2014 9:52:38 PM PST by llevrok (F the government)
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To: jazusamo

We need more Ukranian and Venezuelan refugees ......telling the fing truth.


40 posted on 02/25/2014 10:19:13 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, WIN LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: DuncanWaring

I think the day will come when people will wish they had eliminated a standing army.


41 posted on 02/26/2014 6:22:55 AM PST by The_Republic_Of_Maine (Be kept informed on Maine's secession, sign up at freemaine@hushmail.com)
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To: warchild9
“There is a strategy:

it’s driven by the fact that we’re broke.”

Actually it's driven by the fact that the left hates the military because:

1.) The military took an oath to support and defend something (the Constitution) created by a bunch of rich white old men who owned slaves

2.) Money spent on the military could be better spent giving “social handouts” to illegals and deadbeats in exchange for votes.

3.) Our military is hated by the very countries that the treasoncrats and RINO’s in this country idolize such as iran, north korea, china, venezuela, etc, etc.

42 posted on 02/26/2014 7:09:19 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Politicians and diapers need to be changed for the same reason)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

And when that day comes we will eliminate the standing army.

One way or another.


43 posted on 02/26/2014 7:12:41 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

It doesn’t mean you can not have a standing Army, it means that you can not have an open ended appropriation.


44 posted on 02/26/2014 7:14:55 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Politicians and diapers need to be changed for the same reason)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

If you look at where most of the money is going

it’s headed towards non-military uses:

retirees, grossly-overpaid civilian contractors, internal “security” apparatus, foreign aid, etc.

Ships and planes cost a lot...and the time of huge fleets of either is over

We’re going through a painful period of transition in the country, from a republic to a plutocracy

And SF, surveillance tools and spies, and light internal security forces are the traditional weapons of plutocrats

/this did not start with us


45 posted on 02/26/2014 7:18:55 AM PST by warchild9
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To: jazusamo

Strategy or reason are not the issue. There is only one misguided thought.

War is obsolete. f there is no military, there can be no war.

It is that simple

Like Biden, Hagel is a fool


46 posted on 02/26/2014 7:21:08 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: warchild9
Fifty years ago half the federal budget went to the DOD.

It's a small fraction of that now.

Perhaps the time of huge fleets of ships and planes is over, perhaps it is not.

Rudyard Kipling wrote nearly a century ago:

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."
Our problem is not that we spend too much on defense; our problem is that we have too many who vote for a living.
47 posted on 02/26/2014 7:50:18 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring; ex-snook

Exactly.

Below is a list of National Guard divisions, the theater in which they served, their activation, sent overseas, enter combat, and inactivation date(s):

26th Infantry - Eur - Jan 41, Sep 44, Oct 44, Dec 45

27th Infantry - Pac - Oct 40, Mar 42, Nov 43, Dec 45

28th Infantry - Eur - Feb 41, Oct 43, Jul 44, Dec 45

29th Infantry - Eur - Feb 41, Oct 42, Jun 44, Jan 46

30th Infantry - Eur - Sep 40, Feb 44, Jun 44, Nov 45

31st Infantry - Pac - Nov 40, Apr 44, Jul 44, Dec 45

32nd Infantry - Pac - Oct 40, May 42, Sep 42, Feb 46

33rd Infantry - Pac - Mar 41, Jul 43, Sep 44, Feb 46

34th Infantry - Med - Feb 41, Jan 42, Nov 42, Nov 45

35th Infantry - Eur - Dec 40, May 44, Jul 44, Dec 45

36th Infantry - Med & Eur - Nov 40, Apr 43, Sep 43, Dec 45

37th Infantry - Pac - Oct 40, Jun 42, Jul 43, Dec 45

38th Infantry - Pac - Jan 41, Jan 44, Jul 44, Nov 45

40th Infantry - Pac - Mar 41, Sep 42, Apr 44, Apr 46

41st Infantry - Pac - Sep 40, May 42, Jan 43, Dec 45

42nd Infantry - Eur - Jul 43, Dec 44, Dec 44, Jul 46

44th Infantry - Eur - Sep 40, Sep 44, Oct 44, Nov 45

45th Infantry - Med & Eur - Sep 40, Jan 43, Jul 43, Dec 45

Most of these units served in WW1, at least two served in Korea and/or Vietnam also. The 29th took part in the D-day landings in Normandy.


48 posted on 02/26/2014 7:52:25 AM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Politicians and diapers need to be changed for the same reason)
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To: Steely Tom

“but Col. North is wise enough not to say what it is on television.”

Why is it not wise to say it? What are we afraid of?


49 posted on 02/26/2014 7:54:10 AM PST by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: DuncanWaring

No argument here


50 posted on 02/26/2014 7:56:27 AM PST by warchild9
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