Skip to comments.Could Russia Send Troops to the Crimea?
Posted on 02/25/2014 3:12:17 PM PST by No One Special
Many Western publications are asking whether Russia will militarily intervene in Ukraine, particularly in the southeast region of Crimea. We have been following this question very closely. But this isnt just a question being asked in the West the Russian media is asking the exact same question. Some in Russia are as worried for the prospect of war as those outside of it. This article was published in the mainstream-but-liberal and well-respected media outlet Slon.ru, written by an established journalist, Oleg Kashin.
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I am writing this text on Monday night, realizing that it could get outdated by morning. It is a night of rumors on the news wires and in the social networks and even simply on my telephone; at such moments, you always discover friends who have friends whose friends heard something. The wires are saying that Russian Ambassador Zurabov has been recalled. This is the first news involving Zurabov in all these days; it seems he is only useful in order to be recalled, so as to send somebody a message. The command of the Russian Airborne Troops has denied the story of sending Pskov paratroopers to Ukraine, and the combat news about how there isnt an order to dispatch yet, but the paratroopers are sitting on their suitcases has disappeared from the website of Komsomolskaya Pravda.
Social networks are writing that Russian commandos are already loading on to ships at the port in Novorossiysk. And Yury Lutsenko is announcing in fright in the night about Russian APCs on the approach to Sevastopol [the southeastern Ukrainian city where the Russian naval base and the home of the Black Sea fleet is located -- Ed.] . And friends of friends are sending to each other and to me also the SMS from the wife of a paratrooper who saw her husband off to the Far East, and it turned out he was going to the Black Sea. Will Russia suddenly today re-conquer at least the Crimea (annex, occupy, take under protection, force into peace, etc.)?
I can write a big text about how all of these rumors are worthless. The interests of Russia exist only in the speeches of hosts on state television, but we know full well that the people to whom Russia belongs now can only have a material interest: an apartment in Miami, a bank account in Zurich, and children in London. Cote DAzur is closer to them than their native Crimea, and they dont care at all about Russians on either side of the Russian border its more important for them to be able to travel to Europe and America, and so that no one freezes their bank accounts.
The height of their foreign policy mastery consists of transferring $2 billion dollars to Yanukovych which have now disappeared (at least it wasnt $15 billion as had been planned) as well as their three-card monte player nick-named Gepa [the mayor of Kharkov], who worked until this past Sunday as a Russian patriot. With this sort of track record, what sort of paratroopers, war, and Crimea are you talking about?
In my picture of the world, nothing of the sort can happen, but I remember my picture of the world in August 2008 back then, in my picture, Russia couldnt have sent troops into Georgia, but it up and sent them. On the morning of August 8, 2008, I flew to Moscow from Chelyabinsk, and watched the events in South Ossetia from an overflowing waiting room in a little southern Urals airport. There were a lot of people there, but I was the only one surprised by Russians tanks in the Roki Tunnel; the rest of the passengers perceived this as a given. Because I built my picture of the world by reading independent political analysts, independent media and social networks, and the rest of the passengers didnt read any of that, but read Komsomolskaya Pravda and watched state TV channels. And that morning it turned out that their picture of the world was closer to reality than mine. On the whole, that morning produced a very strong impression on me.
Tonight, before tomorrow morning, we have a very important advantage now we have all seen Putin. He was like Boris Godunov who was played in the film by the same name by the late Sergei Bondarchuk: I have reached the highest power. At his feet at the Olympic stadium, the costumed Dostoevsky and Solzhenitsyn danced, the Russian team celebrated its largest triumph in post-Soviet history. The little girl named Lyuba and her friends Yura and Valya, in a giant Faberge egg, flew off to a cloudless future, and it was Putin who provided it for them. Putin has nothing more to strive for this is the high point of his celebration, and he has still not marked a new one for himself.
[Spokesman Dmitry] Peskov will bring him the latest American magazine with his portrait on the cover he is man of the year, man of the century, man of the millennium and he looks at these covers indifferently, he has grown used to them. He does not know how else to demonstrate that he is the coolest on earth. Even if that is not true, he himself believes that he is the coolest. Before the Olympics, he could have doubted it, but what doubts does he have now?
And meanwhile, do you recall that terrible video with the participation of the General Staff generals, who reported that the real decisions in August 2008 were made in fact by Putin, and not Medvedev? The video appeared in August 2012, for absolutely no political reason, and for absolutely no need. The purpose could only be one someone needed to take away from the former President Medvedev his only formal achievement, because how could that be Medvedev (understandably being what he is) has this achievement, but the great Putin doesnt have it. From Putins perspective, such a situation simply must not be allowed.
And now, such a chance appears. A neighboring state has wound up without a president, without a government. The population of the Crimea, evidently, are not prepared to construct its European identity together with heroes from the Right Sector. There are rallies in Sevastopol, the Russian flag has replaced the Ukrainian one in front of the mayors office in Kerch. It would be trivial to find a pretext. Perhaps, unidentified Bandera followers will burn down a Russian ship in the Sevastopol harbor. Perhaps the Supreme Council of the Crimea will ask Russia to help maintain order in the region. Perhaps even President Yanukovych, whom Russia until now has not once called former, will turn up in Simferopol and as the legitimate head of state will appeal for help.
Of course there will be an international reaction, but we went through all that in 2008. An emergency session of the UN Security Council will be convened, and Vitaly Churkin will laugh right in his colleagues faces Hey, youre telling us what to do, but you lynch blacks. The American ship in the Black Sea will run into trouble. The leaders of the NATO countries, after phoning one another, will agree that no one wants to fight in the Crimea somebody has elections, somebody is still in Afghanistan, somebody else has some other serious reasons. In five days, when the Russian flags will be waving throughout the whole peninsula, an important Western mediator will fly to Moscow, perhaps even Francois Hollande. He will express concern, and urge Russia not to attack Kiev. Putin will pretend that he is upset, but will promise yes, no Kiev.
And there will be the Republic of the Crimea, an unrecognized state formation with an uncertain status. On Ukrainian maps, it will go on being colored as Ukraine, but on Navalnys Live Journal, a post will appear about Yakunins dacha in Foros and Neverovs apartment in Yalta. In Koktebel, Gazprom will build a hotel for its employees, and the group Lube will finish its jubilee tour in Sevastopol. How this will all look after a Russian victory you saw from the example of Southern Ossetia and Abkhazia nothing of interest, here are our Soviet offshores. Either a white elephant, or a little imperial revanch , a present for Uncle Limonov.
Of course, this isnt the only possible option and everything could be different:
1. Russia will remain Russia, that is, Sergei Lavrov will make a harsh statement, the Night Wolves will make a motorcycle raid, but Kiev will appoint its governor in Crimea.
2. Or the Crimean Tatars will put up a fierce resistance to the Russian paratroopers and thousands of volunteers from all the Muslim countries will stream to the Crimea, and in the middle of Russia, the parade of somber zinc-coffin funerals will begin, and the next election cycle in Russia will take place under the sign of a prolonged Crimean war.
3. Or the American ship wont end up in the shallows, and some UN peacekeepers will occupy Sevastopol by the end of the week, and a frightened Moscow will declare responsible for the Crimean incident some Pskov colonel of the Russian Airborne Troops who didnt understand things right and on his own launched some expedition, but he will be tried as a lesson to others, and then later secretly given awards or killed, or both.
It may become a question of “Self-determination” for Crimean separatists.
Maybe then we can have another war that has nothing to do with America. We’ll import labor from around the world and leave our borders wide open and change our face and culture so that some globalists that want to steal our national sovereignty get rich.
It makes no difference to corrupt and owned Washington politicians, just as it made no difference to them when they sold out the USA to Mexico, Japan and China so that Wall St could get rich.
Our country is run by traitors who see America as a vehicle that they and their cronies will get rich on, while others will die for it and get screwed.
I’m old fashioned. I don’t give one crap about ANY other country except the USA. The interventionists and their let’s make a democracy BS while they steal ours, and who thrive on war profits need to face a gallows.
Putin already has troops in the Crimea. He may well add to their numbers. Worst case he will take the place over—but he would pay a price for that. I think he’s going to wait and see—if the new government doesn’t do anything stupid like shoot Russians —he will do little or nothing. If mobs take out their anti-Russian hate on civilians—watch out!
of course it could
they sent troops into Georgia didn’t they?
Same with Aztlan some day in the southwest
I think they already have. I read of armored personnel carriers on the streets of Sevastopol today.
They have always had military units at their base in Sevastapol.
Completely preposterous. Next thing you know, people will claim the US is sending troops to Germany, S. Korea, and Turkey. Oh, wait......
It would be a Crimea gainst Humanatee.
So, Crimea River .....
Then I’m right, they already have.....
Well if Hussein continues as usurper in chief, we won’t have any to send.
of course they could.
dumbass article title question.
>>In my picture of the world, nothing of the sort can happen, but I remember my picture of the world in August 2008 back then, in my picture, Russia couldnt have sent troops into Georgia, but it up and sent them. On the morning of August 8, 2008, I flew to Moscow from Chelyabinsk, and watched the events in South Ossetia from an overflowing waiting room in a little southern Urals airport. There were a lot of people there, but I was the only one surprised by Russians tanks in the Roki Tunnel; the rest of the passengers perceived this as a given. Because I built my picture of the world by reading independent political analysts, independent media and social networks, and the rest of the passengers didnt read any of that, but read Komsomolskaya Pravda and watched state TV channels. And that morning it turned out that their picture of the world was closer to reality than mine. On the whole, that morning produced a very strong impression on me.<<
Situation in Ossetia and Ukraine is indeed very different.
You are just ignoring background behind Russian-Georgian conflict.
Georgian leader was particularly obsessed with an idea of NATO membership and just prior to the event, despite strong US support, he was de-facto told to go pound sand by the Germans. It was very diplomatic but the idea behind all these pleasant words was that NATO doesn’t need another banana republic posessing territorial disputes to make all the alliance deal with it.
The problem he was too much obsessed with an idea.
I guess he learnt from a Yugoslavian conflict, a plan was to use any shooting which is a daily occurrence in disputed zones to move in with overwhelming forces and resolve dispute once and for all.
A hundred of lightly armed Russian troops inserted by UN in earlier 1990s to prevent regular massacres of Ossetians by Georgian forces was viewed as a little problem because UN ROEs are known to make such a troops really inept in peacekeeping.
He had a fat chance to get away with it, considering his romance with neocons and extreme popularity with mass-media. Using this influence he could have push his version of events, bashing any criticism as a Russian propaganda.
Hurting Russian prestige as a protector of Ossetia was a secondary mission. It could provide little Georgia with an image Israel enjoyed after pushing around bigger Arab nations in Arab-Israely wars. In imagination of Georgian leader all of the above could have been make him more than worthy for NATO.
The problem is that about a dozen Russian troops were killed along with local civilians during artillery and airstrikes before Georgian invasion and survived soldiers had their self-esteem hurt as far as they had to hide in bomb shelters with civilians they were supposed to protect.
That is why they haven’t followed UN rules and turned their guns on invading Georgian forces who responded with destruction of Russian base and killing the rest on peacekeepers-turned-combatants.
Just substitute Russia with US and Georgia with Somalia for comparison.
Georgian president was a bad gambler if he thought his propaganga and oncoming Olympics would let him get away with it.
None of conditions mentioned above are present in Ukraine.
not only might Russia do it, they will feel they absolutely have to do it if they perceive European/German troops or control in Ukraine or its economy or resources (been there, done that...before...anyone remember any history perhaps?)...or if they perceive any threat to their Russian community and naval base facilities there, or access to and fro.
Hitler had his Volksdeutsche and Putin has all those ethnic Russians that Stalin and others spread all over the former Soviet Union. Putin can rationalize invading any former Soviet territory by claiming he's doing it to protect the Russians living there. Crimea is Russian for Sudetenland.
I took a look at my atlas and couldn't find a Crimea River?!
What’s the crime rate in Crimea?
Maybe a Crimea on the dahl ....
It’s right next to De Nile ....
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Of course they could. Who is going to stop them?
This is why the Russians colonized these places during the Soviet era, so this could happen. It should be considered illegitimate
Russians hasn’t colonized Georgian breakaway territories. Ossetians are technically Iranian Christians and they lived in Ossetia for a thousand years.