Posted on 02/26/2014 4:35:25 PM PST by lbryce
LOL, it is it’s foundation and strength.
A conservative atheist makes far more sense than a liberal Christian.
The problem is that the Conservative base is shrinking and so
in order to remain politically viable they’re willing to increase the voter base that compromises, dilutes the underlying fundamental principles that have made conservatism the principled, logical ideology for a better, more fulfilling, civilized way of life, for God and country.
I don't believe in atheism.
Perhaps you missed the "Judeo" in Judeo-Christian values. Conservatives (and Christians) recognize their debts to the marvelous culture of the Jews, as well as their special covenant with God. The only thing atheists have ever done is degrade and attack the values and traditions that made this country great.
My other sister-in-law is extremely liberal and is Christian. She is an academic and thinks that centralized planning is the way to go.
The pair make for interesting family holidays.
You nicely summed up why American conservatism is incompatible with Godlessness.
I think its a mistake to exclude atheists. They can be and often are Conservative politically, they just don’t believe in a God. One of the most moral people I know is an atheist. CPAC made a mistake in kicking them out.
Atheism provides for no ultimate objective source of individual sovereignty.
The only version of individual sovereignty available to atheism is the subjective kind, which makes it no different, ultimately, from any form of liberalism.
Amen !
Our Founders would be torn to shreds in here, inasmuch as most of them were 'mere' Deists.
I'm with them, 100%.
Atheism provides for no ultimate objective source of individual sovereignty.
The only version of individual sovereignty available to atheism is the subjective kind, which makes it no different, ultimately, from any form of liberalism.
“Despite this year’s snub, the Atheists are willing to reopen dialogue with CPAC about “the importance of religious equality,” Silverman said.”
Conservatives wouldn’t whine about this.
An atheist could be a conservative.
A group that defines itself in such an identity politics way isn’t conservative.
Do the evangelicals here slap down conservative Jews for not espousing “Christian values” or for rejecting Jesus Christ as their “Lord and Savoir?”
Sometimes.. and as most Jews are various kinds of commies(socialists)..
Not all christians are christians, as not all Jews are Jews..
Actually not all americans are Americans..
or patriots patriots.. or even not women are Women.. or men Men...
It’s like that in Bizarro world..
Drop the Bong... look around.. it’s weird out there..
I'm also agnostic, bordering on atheist. (Don't have the cajones to go all the way, I guess).
You won't find a more staunch supporter of religious freedom, for all religions, than you'll find in me.
I consider atheism to be a religion that should not be elevated above other religions, especially in the U.S. where Christianity and Judaism were the founding and prevalent religions.
Atheism provides for no ultimate objective source of individual sovereignty.
The only version of individual sovereignty available to atheism is the subjective kind, which makes it no different, ultimately, from any form of liberalism.
No kidding. Its no wonder we can't get anywhere.
THIS very conservative agnostic would like to see most of the Federal Government disassembled, abortion severely restricted if not outright prohibited, and freedom of worship (or not to worship) in the public square enforced and restrictions removed on the exercise of the Second Amendment among other conservative positions.
But some people here say that makes me a liberal.
That isn't "understanding." It's simply a fatuous remark to hide their ignorance.
That’s kinda’ what I was getting at.
O.K.
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