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Banning the American Flag and 'Reconquista'
American Thinker ^ | 3-1-14 | William Sullivan

Posted on 03/01/2014 4:09:15 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

A federal court has ruled that an American school student has a right to free expression -- unless that American might be threatened for that expression by others, in which case state officials have the right to quash the offending expression to appease potential aggressors.

Which, ipso facto, means Americans have no right to free expression at all.

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The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled upon the constitutionality of a decision by the administration at Live Oak High School in 2010. On May 5th of that year, student Daniel Galli and his friends had the unmitigated gall to wear shirts emblazoned with that offensive symbol that we call the American flag. Fearing that the unruly ex-denizens of another country would be infuriated at the mere sight of it on a day they hold in reverence, the vice principal asked him and his friends to turn their shirts inside out.

~snip~

First, there is the obvious specter of the notion of “Reconquista” inherent in all of this. When speaking with my parents just a few weeks ago about Republicans’ wild-eyed and crazily misguided efforts to make the legislation of amnesty their political white whale, my father (an Anglo-American of English/Irish descent) asked me to make future efforts to remind Americans that the concentrated campaign to re-define the American Southwest as a sub-jurisdiction of Mexico, with social and economic benefits provided by American taxpayers, amounts to little more than an invasion. My mother (of immediate Mexican descent) took it upon herself to agree, reminding us that as a teenager in San Antonio, Texas, that this very aim was openly discussed among her Hispanic classmates. “We’re gonna take it back,” she recalls as a common theme of conversation. “We’re gonna hang around and eventually, we’re gonna get it back.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; flag; immigration; reconquista

1 posted on 03/01/2014 4:09:15 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

live with it , the American flag is here to stay


2 posted on 03/01/2014 4:15:03 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I knew it was coming to this, this is the end game, now according to the 9th Circus Court if someone feels bad abut what conservatives say we have to shut up. TEA Party signs make the leftist upset, then ban them, don’t like what Rush is saying on the radio, ban him too.

We are nothing but a bunch of cowards, not sheep, sheep have a backbone.


3 posted on 03/01/2014 4:18:21 AM PST by stockpirate (Appears good men have decided to do nothing, so evil is prevailing)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Basically we are going to have to tell the conservative granny ladies auxiliary that it is going to get messy, and they might be called bad names, but they will deal with it while men go forth and whoop some ass. As for those insurgent Americans in that Mexical school, its called stickers that show the American flag, buy them, put them up, create evil libtard overreactions. Stop f#cking whining, now.


4 posted on 03/01/2014 4:27:05 AM PST by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
"in pResident ButtCrack's America..."

5 posted on 03/01/2014 4:27:36 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: stockpirate

The Republican House of Representatives can and should impeach any of these justices for their grossly incompetent ruling. Of course they won’t but they do have the power to push back.


6 posted on 03/01/2014 4:28:09 AM PST by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Travis McGee

Everyone on Free Republic should read “Domestic Enemies” by our own Travis Magee (Matthew Bracken) where Americans in the Southwest live in a dystopian world of the Reconquista where displays of the American flag are prohibited and businesses are required to use Spanish. And guns are taken away from ordinary citizens.

It’s happening today as seen by incidents like the one in this article.

And look at the illegal alien mess and the way some liberals want amnesty. They plan to win by demographics.

Does it bother anyone that the current mayor of Los Angeles was one of the founders of Fecha, the political arm of the Reconquista movement?

Google Fecha and see what comes up. Matt Bracken is a prophet.


7 posted on 03/01/2014 4:29:12 AM PST by wildbill ())
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The First Indonesian Impostor-Moslem pRes_ _ent-by-Fraud
refused to salute the US flag, and the DNC and al Qaeda
(same organization, apparently) LOVED HIM FOR IT.


8 posted on 03/01/2014 4:36:27 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: yldstrk

“live with it , the American flag is here to stay”

with the government we have that is determined to diminish us, I wouldn’t be eager to bet on that.


9 posted on 03/01/2014 4:55:19 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: yldstrk

The direction that the Country is headed, I would not bet on it.


10 posted on 03/01/2014 4:58:02 AM PST by sport
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To: afraidfortherepublic
IMO beyond the notion of “Reconquista” it's..

Joe and Jane Citizen being "in violation of . . . unwritten sensitivity standard[s] . . . [such as] our poor American flag no longer has a home in our schools and workplaces. . . . [it no longer matters] how many have sacrificed and died for the values it represents . . . ."

Abe will explain from "the other side." The fault is ours.

You initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.

You see, the 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats hijacked the now defunct Democratic Party in the 1970s. They and their bratty ideological issue are now arguably the Establishment. (I.e., statism.)

11 posted on 03/01/2014 4:58:04 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
“We’re gonna hang around and eventually, we’re gonna get it back.”

This is true starting with California. They will do this by sheer numbers at the ballot box. Probably in just a few more election cycles.

12 posted on 03/01/2014 5:01:19 AM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I put up an American flag on my vehicle and on my porch on Cinco De Mayo. It’s OUR flag. They don’t like it, they can leave. I do NOT want to see a foreign flag hoisted in our nation. Period!


13 posted on 03/01/2014 5:01:30 AM PST by stilloftyhenight (...staying home isn't an option.)
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To: Daveinyork

It is up to us to fly OUR FLAG! Were I a parent, I’d keep my kid home from school on that day. I consider it a patriotic duty to counter protest these people. Their allegiance is to Mexico and I won’t tolerate their nationalism here in this country! Let the chips fall where they may.


14 posted on 03/01/2014 5:06:30 AM PST by stilloftyhenight (...staying home isn't an option.)
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To: stilloftyhenight

I suspect that a whole lot of chips are going to fall, and we had better be ready for it.


15 posted on 03/01/2014 5:13:10 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Cinco De Mayo is a sham holiday designed to separate proto-alcoholics from their money.


16 posted on 03/01/2014 5:20:09 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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To: Daveinyork

My American flag is waiting patiently in the closet until than Kenyan Communist is out of the White Hut. Until then, the Sons of Liberty and Gadsden Flags fly from our 20-foot flag pole!


17 posted on 03/01/2014 5:21:57 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfusbutcher)
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To: yldstrk
Sadly, your statement reeks of false bravado.

Our political leaders are more than willing to sell your white ass out for votes and cheap labor.

If "We The People" don't protect our sovereignty, it will be taken and sold to the highest bidder.

18 posted on 03/01/2014 5:22:51 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Politics are just the rules - Power is the game!)
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To: stilloftyhenight

Ditto here.

Until the Kenyan Kretin goes back to ...well I don’t care where the hell he goes...it stays.

Should Hitlery win, it stays right where it is.


19 posted on 03/01/2014 5:30:54 AM PST by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

“If “We The People” don’t protect our sovereignty, it will be taken and sold to the highest bidder. “

Now that is one funny statement, what pray tell do you mean by, “it will be sold”, the correct term is “it has been sold”. We are way past where you think we are.


20 posted on 03/01/2014 5:38:21 AM PST by stockpirate (Appears good men have decided to do nothing, so evil is prevailing)
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To: Redleg Duke

Mine, too, and my flag pins sit on my bureau. I refuse to wear the symbol of an America that would twice elect that filth. It’s no the America that I love. It’s no longer very lovable.


21 posted on 03/01/2014 5:39:42 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Many of the elected Hispanics in the West were members of La Raza when they were in college. Their motto is: ‘Everything for the Race, outside the Race nothing’. They have been instructed to run for office and change things from the inside. They consider the entire Southwest of the USA ‘Aztlan’. It is theirs, taken illegally from them years ago. They are not going away. And California is the place they are gaining support. Americans need to WAKE UP or ‘for want of a nail’ our country will be lost.


22 posted on 03/01/2014 5:43:01 AM PST by originalbuckeye ("A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue;)
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To: stockpirate
Wow, and I thought I was a pessimist.

Lots of people still have the implements of sovereignty in their grasp and, I'm convinced, will use them when necessary.

Yes, we have plenty of "DemonRatz" and "Red-light Republicans" working against us but there are still more than enough "White Hats" to take it back.

23 posted on 03/01/2014 5:49:02 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Politics are just the rules - Power is the game!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

If I had children in public school out there, I would keep them out on “Cinco de mayo” day. It is not safe for American children out there. Our political leaders seem to be pushing this takeover.


24 posted on 03/01/2014 5:53:40 AM PST by sicandtired (No, I will not press 1 for english)
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To: Daveinyork; Redleg Duke
Leading a classroom full of kids in the Pledge of Allegiance with any sense of conviction is becoming extremely difficult for me - but I can't let them know that, in my heart, I pledge NO allegiance to the current regime.

I pray that one day we will once again become America.

25 posted on 03/01/2014 5:55:36 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Politics are just the rules - Power is the game!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Revisiting this situation, several things are true.

1) The school was initially at fault for holding a Cinco de Mayo celebration in the first place. Cinco de Mayo is almost exclusively celebrated in the US, not Mexico, except in one state, where it is called “El Día de la Batalla de Puebla”. It is *not* Mexican Independence Day, which is celebrated on September 16.

It can properly be called “The Mexican-American equivalent of Kwanzaa”, another contrived and meaningless holiday. It exists mostly as an excuse for bars and clubs to offer pseudo-Sonoran Mexican food and drink specials to party goers.

2) This being said, the school was doubly at fault for sponsoring what is essentially an exclusionary, ethnic group event, celebrating a foreign country. This reinforces the idea that their students, even those who are legally American, are somehow still Mexican citizens, not fully Americans. It is even insulting to those children who are illegal aliens, as it suggests that they will always be Mexicans, that they will never be, can never be, Americans.

3) Only in this context of two inappropriate actions by the school does it make sense to make the third inappropriate action, by banning displays of American patriotism. But this issue is actually *not* about the white students showing their patriotism; but what about the ethnically Mexican students who want to show their American patriotism?

Even many years ago, there was a minority of ethnically Mexican students who vehemently denied they were Mexicans instead of Americans. Their families had worked very hard to become Americans, and they did not want to be dragged back to Mexico in any way. They rejected groups like La Raza and MEChA, and resented efforts to hound them into such racist and anti-American organizations. They found the notion of Aztlan to be horrific, and would have moved out of the area deeper into America instead of having to live within such a place.

So the bottom line is that those who celebrate Mexico should live there. American schools should be for Americans, and at least those who want to become Americans. And while ethnic Mexicans who are now Americans may want to enjoy their ethnic heritage from “the old country”, this should be no different than all the other immigrants are to their ancestral country. But it certainly does not mean they still hold loyalty to those places.


26 posted on 03/01/2014 6:00:29 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

well they can’t stop me from displaying the flag
and my bravado isn’t false
it’s bravado from what do I have to lose
what are they gonna do make me live in a country run by democrats


27 posted on 03/01/2014 6:07:34 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The constitutional provision of free speech is to protect the speaker from this very sort of thing. The protection is against those who disagree with the speaker and want the silence the speaker.

Good is bad and up is down.


28 posted on 03/01/2014 6:58:10 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: sicandtired

Note that they called Cinco de mayo a “holiday”? Hardly a holiday...


29 posted on 03/01/2014 7:14:31 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
It is *not* Mexican Independence Day, which is celebrated on September 16.

Indeed! And it's my birthday too.

30 posted on 03/01/2014 7:16:31 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Aevery_Freeman

I am not a pessimist, a realist yes, pessimist no.

The republican leadership is NO different then the democrat leadership, on this Rush and Hannity are totally wrong, or misleading us.


31 posted on 03/01/2014 7:26:25 AM PST by stockpirate (Appears good men have decided to do nothing, so evil is prevailing)
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To: yldstrk

And we want to give amnesty to HOW MANY more of the same people???

YIKES!


32 posted on 03/01/2014 8:44:46 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: wildbill
Thanks. These are my books.
33 posted on 03/01/2014 3:11:37 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: wildbill

“The True History of the Southwest,” by Matthew Bracken

The fallacies surrounding the history of the Southwest are staggering, chief among them the “Aztlan” fairy tales. What is the truth? How did the Spanish Europeans conquer the Southwest? The “conquistadores” (that means “conquerors”) did it with the lance, and the lash.

For example, in 1541 Coronado entered present-day New Mexico (which included present-day Arizona during the Spanish era) searching for the “lost cities of gold.” One of his first actions upon meeting the natives was to burn hundreds of them alive in their dwellings, for not handing over suspected horse thieves. That is how Spain conquered the natives of the present US Southwest—not with hugs and kisses. It was certainly no love-fest between long-lost brown-skinned soul-mates, as it is often portrayed today by the delusional Aztlaners, who spin the “new bronze race of Mestizos” toro-mierda fable.

By 1821, Mexico City was strong enough to overthrow the even more decrepit and ineffectual Spanish colonial rule. However, the distant provinces of the current U.S. Southwest were far beyond the reach of the authority of the independent but strife-torn new government in Mexico City. These distant northern provinces received neither military protection nor needed levels of trade from the south. Under Spanish colonial rule, trade with the USA was forbidden, but at least Spain provided trade and Army protection from hostile Indians. Under Mexican abandonment and neglect, the Southwest received neither trade nor protection from Mexico City.

For example, Comanches and Apaches ran rampant in the 1830s in the power vacuum created by Mexican neglect, burning scores of major ranches that had been active for hundreds of years and massacring their inhabitants. Mexico City could neither defend nor keep the allegiance of its nominal subjects in these regions. Nor did it provide needed levels of trade to sustain the prior Spanish colonial era standard of living. Mexican governmental influence atrophied, withered and died at the same time that American pathfinders were opening up new routes into the region.

Increasingly, a growing United States of America was making inroads into the Southwest, via ships into California, and via wagon trains of trade goods over the Santa Fe Trail from St. Louis. The standard of living of the Spanish inhabitants of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas subsequently increased enormously, which is why they did not support Mexico City in the 1846-48 war. In fact, the Spanish-speaking inhabitants of the Southwest never considered themselves “Mexicans” at all, ever. They went, in their own eyes, from Spanish directly to American. To this very day, if you want a punch in the nose, just call an Hispanic native of New Mexico a “Mexican.”

So how long did Mexico City have even nominal jurisdiction (in their eyes) over the American Southwest? For only 25 years, during which they had no effective control, and the area slipped backwards by every measure until the arrival of the Americans. The Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest never transferred their loyalty to Mexico City, because all they received from the chaotic Mexican government was misrule, neglect, and unchecked Indian raids.

Since then, how long has the area been under firm American control? For 150 continuous years, during which time the former Spanish inhabitants of the region, now American citizens, have prospered beyond the wildest dreams of the Mexicans still stuck in Mexico. To compare the infrastructure, roads, schools, hospitals etc. of the two regions is to understand the truth. The Mexican government has been mired in endemic graft, corruption, nepotism and chaos from the very start until today. The ordinary Mexican peons have been trampled and abused, while only the super-rich elites have thrived. This is why millions of Mexicans want to escape from Mexico today, to enjoy the benefits of living in America that they can never hope to obtain in Mexico.

And because today Mexico is a corrupt third-world pest-hole (despite having more millionaires and billionaires than Great Britain), we are supposed to let any number of Mexicans from Chiapas, Michoacan or Yucatan march into the American Southwest, and make some “historical claim” of a right to live there?

From where does this absurd idea spring?

At what point in history did Indians and Mestizos from Zacatecas or Durango stake a claim on the American Southwest? Neither they nor their ancestors ever lived for one single day in the American Southwest. The Spanish living in the Southwest in 1846 stayed there, and became Americans by the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo. There were no Spanish inhabitants of the Southwest who were marched to the border and driven into Mexico. It didn’t happen. The Spanish in the Southwest welcomed American citizenship, which brought stability, protection from Indian raids, and a vast increase in their standard of living with the increase in trade with America.

In summary, no current inhabitants of Mexico have a claim on even one single inch of the American Southwest. Not one single citizen of Mexico is sneaking into the United States to reclaim property their ancestors were deprived of. Not one. They are criminal invaders and colonizers, pure and simple.

It’s time Americans learned the true history, as a counter to the currently prevalent “Aztlan” fairy tales put out by “La Raza” (The Race), “MEChA” (the Chicano Student Movement for Aztlan) and other radical anti-American groups.


34 posted on 03/01/2014 3:13:11 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I have done a lot of historical research on Texas/Mexico for a master’s degree and found lots of interesting facts. Among them are:

1.The Mexican legislature of Cohuila was the actual governing body for the province of Texas during the years between the Mexican Revolution and the Texas Revolution. This legislature authorized and invited colonization by Americans in land grants in order to provide a human buffer between the raiding Indians from Texas and Mexico below the Rio Grande.

2. The Spanish and “Mexican” population of Texas was never very large and by the time of the collapse of Spanish rule the province was actually in a population decline according to an official who traveled the province to make a report on its status. There were only three towns, San Antonio, Gonzalez, and Nacogdoches and the population totaled less than 2000, including soldiers stationed in the towns.

3. By the time of the first census under the American government (1850), the largest town in Texas, San Antonio, actually had more native Germans than persons claiming Mexican roots.


35 posted on 03/01/2014 7:40:58 PM PST by wildbill ())
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To: yldstrk; Kartographer

>> live with it , the American flag is here to stay

Watch this video to the end if you haven’t already:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaxGNQE5ZLA

Star Spangled Banner As You’ve Never Heard It
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3128226/posts


36 posted on 03/01/2014 7:46:39 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: yldstrk
live with it , the American flag is here to stay

I doubt you have been to LA lately.


37 posted on 03/01/2014 11:48:40 PM PST by itsahoot (Voting for RINOs is the same as voting for any other Tyrant)
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To: itsahoot

I wish California would sink wake up


38 posted on 03/02/2014 4:35:17 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: wildbill

It was similar in California. I think there were fewer than 100 “Mexican” soldiers there by the time of the treaty.

100 soldiers in one coastal garrison to “possess” California is a joke.


39 posted on 03/02/2014 4:56:28 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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