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Ukraine mobilizes after Putin's 'declaration of war'
Reuters ^ | March 2, 2014 | Peter Graff and Alissa de Carbonnel

Posted on 03/02/2014 6:17:11 AM PST by Corporate Democrat

(Reuters) - Ukraine mobilized for war on Sunday, after Russian President Vladimir Putin declared he had the right to invade, creating the biggest confrontation between Moscow and the West since the Cold War.

"This is not a threat: this is actually the declaration of war to my country," said Ukraine's Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk, head of a pro-Western government that took power when Russian ally Viktor Yanukovich fled last week.

Putin obtained permission from his parliament on Saturday to use military force to protect Russian citizens in Ukraine, spurning Western pleas not intervene.

Russian forces have already bloodlessly seized Crimea - an isolated Black Sea peninsula where Moscow has a naval base. On Sunday they surrounded several small Ukrainian military outposts there and demanded the Ukrainian troops disarm. Some refused, although no shots were fired.

Russia has staged war games with 150,000 troops along the land border, but so far they have not crossed. However, pro-Russian demonstrators have marched in the east of the country and have raised Russian flags over government buildings in several cities, in what Kiev says is a move orchestrated by Moscow to justify a wider invasion.

Ukraine's security council ordered the general staff to immediately put all armed forces on highest alert, the council's secretary Andriy Parubiy announced.

The Defense Ministry was ordered to conduct a call-up of reserves - theoretically all men up to 40 in a country with universal male conscription, though Ukraine would struggle to find extra guns or uniforms for significant numbers of them.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; declaration; mobilizes; putin; putins; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; war; yuliatymoshenko
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1 posted on 03/02/2014 6:17:11 AM PST by Corporate Democrat
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To: Corporate Democrat

Ukranian Forces on High Alert????? What does that mean in the face of the Russian Army?


2 posted on 03/02/2014 6:19:15 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Corporate Democrat

War? According to CNN, this is just an uncontested arrival.


3 posted on 03/02/2014 6:21:42 AM PST by Rennes Templar
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

It means Russia rolls right in...

Next stop yet to be determined.

Meanwhile, Obambi sucks his thumb in the Oval Office.


4 posted on 03/02/2014 6:22:07 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

It means the Ukrainians will blow some smoke but are not going to fight for the Crimea. The Russians have already starting disarming some small Ukrainian units in the Crimea. Everything will be wrapped up there in a few days I would think.


5 posted on 03/02/2014 6:23:47 AM PST by lodi90
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To: Corporate Democrat
Add to this the fact that the Ukraine government put Moscow on notice that they intend to use their nuclear weapons against Russia if it becomes necessary.

Strange days....

6 posted on 03/02/2014 6:23:51 AM PST by bayliving
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To: Corporate Democrat

John Fn Kerry just said on meet the press, “ Putin has nothing to gain in all of this, and will make the g8 mad if he doesn’t back off”
I’m feelin all warm and fuzzy now, thank goodness.


7 posted on 03/02/2014 6:24:41 AM PST by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: Corporate Democrat

Putin better be careful of he’s going to suffer the wrath of the IRS!......oh wait


8 posted on 03/02/2014 6:27:58 AM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: bayliving

Ukraine has no nukes


9 posted on 03/02/2014 6:28:31 AM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: bayliving
I believe that the Ukraine was relieved of all their nuclear weapons by Russia under the eyes of international watch dogs when they went for independence.

They should have none.

As a side step....If they do, then that Memorandum (which was brought up yesterday) is null and void. I believe it was just that...a memo written during lunch.

10 posted on 03/02/2014 6:29:35 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: bayliving

I don’t think Ukraine has any more nukes. We, the Russians, and Ukrainians had a program to transfer some of those weapons to the Russians and destroy the rest.


11 posted on 03/02/2014 6:29:59 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededication to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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Support Free Republic.

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Git-R-Done!

12 posted on 03/02/2014 6:30:53 AM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: DanielRedfoot

His great line was “This is not Rocky 4”.....The Ukrainians are surely scratching their heads on the one.


13 posted on 03/02/2014 6:31:12 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: RummyChick

Meanwhile, Obambi sucks his thumb in the Oval Office.

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Time for some more rounds of golf to relieve the stress. lol


14 posted on 03/02/2014 6:32:35 AM PST by Starboard
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To: lodi90

They’ll all be home by Christmas.


15 posted on 03/02/2014 6:33:27 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: bayliving

They do not have nukes, because we decided along with Russia and the UK to disarm them in exchange for a promise to respect Ukraine’s territory and national sovereignty within its existing borders.

That treaty is called the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, and obviously Russia has been stepping all over it. So now, as a co-signer of that treaty, what do we do?


16 posted on 03/02/2014 6:37:38 AM PST by Corporate Democrat
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To: Corporate Democrat

In the meantime, the Sultan of Sodom on the Potomac has a tee time for 9:00 a.m. this morning, right after morning prayers at the local murdering thug mosque.


18 posted on 03/02/2014 6:42:42 AM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: Corporate Democrat
>>So now, as a co-signer of that treaty, what do we do?<<

Check-mate! Obozo just made the West look like a bunch of wussies.

These freakin liberals. Now, look for other hot spots to heat up around the world. Tyrants and despots love to dog pile when a weak opponent is down.

19 posted on 03/02/2014 6:45:35 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: Sacajaweau

While Putin is strategically positioning his military assets Obama is reduced to quoting movie titles.

Obama is the very personification of weakness. And as history has shown, weakness is always an invitation to aggression.


20 posted on 03/02/2014 6:50:17 AM PST by Starboard
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To: DanielRedfoot

I think Putin views unification of Russia as far more important than a routine G8 meeting. He could care less what the imbecile Kerry thinks.


21 posted on 03/02/2014 6:53:23 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

I agree its one-sided, but you also have to take into consideration that the Russian Army can only focus part of its military on Ukraine, and probably won’t do a full-scale mobilisation the way Ukraine will. If push came to shove, its not guaranteed that the Russians could just steamroll over them...


22 posted on 03/02/2014 6:56:19 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: RetiredArmy

And after that, a tryst with Reggie.


23 posted on 03/02/2014 6:57:04 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Admin Moderator; moder_ator

My apology ... my error.


24 posted on 03/02/2014 6:59:28 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Starboard

Maybe a vacation to Hawaii, to escape the climate change in DC


25 posted on 03/02/2014 7:00:14 AM PST by matt04
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

If push came to shove, its not guaranteed that the Russians could just steamroll over them...

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Maybe Putin intends to slowly tighten the noose rather than employ the steamroller approach? Just another possibility to consider.


26 posted on 03/02/2014 7:03:10 AM PST by Starboard
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To: bayliving

They don’t have any. They were silly enough to give up a large modern nuclear arsenal based on “ guarantees” of territorial integrity by the US , UK and... Russia. There’s a lesson here for Israel, Taiwan, S Korea mad Japan. If I were Poland I would be looking to start a nuke program too.


27 posted on 03/02/2014 7:08:24 AM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: everyone

This report does advise a grain of salt because actual numbers are secret or unknown ... What to believe?!? ... What to believe!?! ... http://www.bbc.com/news/world-17511816


28 posted on 03/02/2014 7:08:36 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Ukranian Forces on High Alert????? What does that mean in the face of the Russian Army?

Before Desert Storm, it took three months for us to get the equipment in place to face Saddam's military, followed by a month of air strikes. I expect Ukraine's military, which has a shoestring budget, will take at least weeks to get ready. They were on peacetime alert status, which - for a low budget military - meant zero readiness, whereas the Russians had probably been gearing up for this operation months in advance.

It's easy to invade. It's the steady trickle of casualties, coupled with the cost of a long war that wears invaders down. The Russians strolled into Afghanistan after a frenetic spec ops mission that killed a disfavored Afghan Marxist who had assassinated their favorite. Almost a decade and 13,000 KIA later, they decided it wasn't worth the trouble and left.

29 posted on 03/02/2014 7:19:03 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Corporate Democrat

“spurning Western pleas not intervene.”

For the Obama and Kerry, that meant

PIMP SLAP. Slapped down like a dog.


30 posted on 03/02/2014 7:27:19 AM PST by Slambat
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To: Corporate Democrat
"That treaty is called the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, and obviously Russia has been stepping all over it. So now, as a co-signer of that treaty, what do we do?"

Not a treaty; never submitted not approved by the Senate, so its legal standing is unclear.

31 posted on 03/02/2014 7:41:14 AM PST by Truth29
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Putin obtained permission from his parliament on Saturday to use military force to protect Russian citizens in Ukraine, spurning Western pleas not intervene.

Sounds like Putin's version of the "Sudetenland". But it's not as if the free world is weak and indecisive or that US armed forces are at their lowest level since before WWII or that we are on the brink of a global financial collapse and worldwide depression or that we don't have an expansionist totalitarian oriental nation chomping at the bit to kick our butts or that Jews are facing genocide...is it?!

Maybe it's time to watch for Poland being invaded!

32 posted on 03/02/2014 7:42:50 AM PST by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: DanielRedfoot

Threats from the Winter Soldier. I wonder who’s chips he’s playing poker with?


33 posted on 03/02/2014 7:43:05 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Starboard

Palin knew this was going to happen, Even Mittens saw the threat of a Russia with Putin in charge.
And Obama made a snippy remark and everyone in the MSM laughed.
Well, Obama is weak against strong players, but try to be a conservative film maker or a GOP PAC and he turns into Rommel.


34 posted on 03/02/2014 8:13:07 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Corporate Democrat

With a Russian Destroyer in Havana, Pootie Poot has his T’s crossed...


35 posted on 03/02/2014 8:31:14 AM PST by Shady (We will not comply. We are Free, We Are AMERICANS!)
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To: Corporate Democrat
"That treaty is called the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, and obviously Russia has been stepping all over it. So now, as a co-signer of that treaty, what do we do?"

That so called "Treaty" was never presented to either the US Senate or the Russian Duma for ratification, much less ratified.

A bunch of drunks drew up a deal on the back of a bar napkin and the lawyers for the big dogs rejected it.

The US is not committed to protect the territorial integrity of Ukraine, thank god.

36 posted on 03/02/2014 8:39:11 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Shady

Two points:

1) What can a single destroyer in Cuba do? What I’d really be worried about is if he parked a couple of Typhoons off the East or West Coasts.

2) That ‘Budapest Memorandum’...yes, they should have given over all their nukes. What if they didn’t? What if they managed to sneak a few away for ‘insurance’? Would it it have been possible to flim-flam the nations doing the observing of the transfer? I say...you bet.


37 posted on 03/02/2014 8:43:05 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Mariner

Thank you!

“That so called “Treaty” was never presented to either the US Senate or the Russian Duma for ratification, much less ratified.

A bunch of drunks drew up a deal on the back of a bar napkin and the lawyers for the big dogs rejected it.

The US is not committed to protect the territorial integrity of Ukraine, thank god.”


38 posted on 03/02/2014 8:48:03 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: DanielRedfoot

“John Fn Kerry just said on meet the press, “ Putin has nothing to gain in all of this, and will make the g8 mad if he doesn’t back off”

John Fn Kerry is so romantic and forceful, when he tries to nuance any world leader. Not really.


39 posted on 03/02/2014 8:50:00 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: Sacajaweau

“His great line was “This is not Rocky 4”.....The Ukrainians are surely scratching their heads on the one.”

More nuancing by John Fn Kerry.


40 posted on 03/02/2014 8:51:55 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: Shady

“With a Russian Destroyer in Havana, Pootie Poot has his T’s crossed...”

That ship isn’t a destroyer. It is Russia’s version of the Pueblo and the Liberty.


41 posted on 03/02/2014 8:54:42 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: Corporate Democrat
They do not have nukes, because we decided along with Russia and the UK to disarm them in exchange for a promise to respect Ukraine’s territory and national sovereignty within its existing borders.

Nukes for a nation are a lot like guns for an individual.

Never, Never, Never, Never, Never, Never, Never, Never, Never, Never, Never, Never surrender them.

42 posted on 03/02/2014 8:56:09 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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Ukraine defense minister just said they cannot defeat russian army.


43 posted on 03/02/2014 8:58:52 AM PST by mulder1 ("The past is prologue")
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To: Corporate Democrat
Obie giving Vlad a good talking to. Note optics - got his sleeves rolled up.

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44 posted on 03/02/2014 8:59:39 AM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: DanielRedfoot

Did Lurch compare Putin to Genghis Khan? Just wondering.


45 posted on 03/02/2014 9:02:05 AM PST by dowcaet
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To: dowcaet

Thats jenjis khan to you.


46 posted on 03/02/2014 9:11:13 AM PST by OKSooner ("As the riders went on by him, he heard one call his name...")
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
sinsofsolarempirefan:" If push came to shove, its not guaranteed that the Russians could just steamroll over them..."

As I recall , there was a Russian mobilization that steamrolled into Georgia
and there was a movie about it .

47 posted on 03/02/2014 9:13:59 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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THE QUESTION SHOULD BE: CAN THE RUSSIAN ARMY MOBILIZE AND STRIKE DEEP INTO THE HEART OF EUROPE BEFORE ANYONE CAN PUT UP A DEFENSE?


48 posted on 03/02/2014 9:14:36 AM PST by mulder1 ("The past is prologue")
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To: mulder1

Somehow, in that scenario, I don’t think a ‘REFORGER’-type deployment would work. If that happened, the only thing we could fall back on was our nukes.

We...and the rest of Europe...would be well and truly screwed.


49 posted on 03/02/2014 9:21:16 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: RummyChick
Meanwhile, Obambi sucks his thumb in the Oval Office.

You don't mean the one he just pulled out of his ass, do you?

50 posted on 03/02/2014 9:23:59 AM PST by Tonytitan
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