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Ukraine mobilizes after Putin's 'declaration of war'
Reuters ^ | March 2, 2014 | Peter Graff and Alissa de Carbonnel

Posted on 03/02/2014 6:17:11 AM PST by Corporate Democrat

(Reuters) - Ukraine mobilized for war on Sunday, after Russian President Vladimir Putin declared he had the right to invade, creating the biggest confrontation between Moscow and the West since the Cold War.

"This is not a threat: this is actually the declaration of war to my country," said Ukraine's Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk, head of a pro-Western government that took power when Russian ally Viktor Yanukovich fled last week.

Putin obtained permission from his parliament on Saturday to use military force to protect Russian citizens in Ukraine, spurning Western pleas not intervene.

Russian forces have already bloodlessly seized Crimea - an isolated Black Sea peninsula where Moscow has a naval base. On Sunday they surrounded several small Ukrainian military outposts there and demanded the Ukrainian troops disarm. Some refused, although no shots were fired.

Russia has staged war games with 150,000 troops along the land border, but so far they have not crossed. However, pro-Russian demonstrators have marched in the east of the country and have raised Russian flags over government buildings in several cities, in what Kiev says is a move orchestrated by Moscow to justify a wider invasion.

Ukraine's security council ordered the general staff to immediately put all armed forces on highest alert, the council's secretary Andriy Parubiy announced.

The Defense Ministry was ordered to conduct a call-up of reserves - theoretically all men up to 40 in a country with universal male conscription, though Ukraine would struggle to find extra guns or uniforms for significant numbers of them.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; declaration; mobilizes; putin; putins; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; war; yuliatymoshenko
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To: Vaquero

Thanks for the correction. I forgot the way he pronounced it. Good job.


61 posted on 03/02/2014 10:04:27 AM PST by dowcaet
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

From what I recall Ukraine has one of the largest militaries in Europe. However, I doubt the nation nor the military can offer anything that reassembles a united front. Unification of purpose is what’s needed to repel a Russian route. The Western interests will need help, but no Western country is in any position to help. That’s what I think based on my limited knowledge. I hope this thing doesn’t get wheels and drag us in. If so, Obama has to go by hook or crook.


62 posted on 03/02/2014 10:21:36 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Mariner

“That treaty is called the 1994 Budapest Memorandum....”

This story could be spun either way. There are too many ambiguities. The Crimean Parliament doesn’t recognize the new Ukrainian govt. The new govt didn’t abide with the power sharing agreement from just days prior. Essentially it was a coup. The Crimeans are still loyal to Yanukovych and have always considered themselves Russians. They could easily rationalize that the new government is illegitimate, filled with extremists that would be oppressive to them. Yanukovych could say, he called on his allies (Russia) to protect his people from dangerous extremists trying to destabilize his country.

Just sayin...


63 posted on 03/02/2014 10:40:19 AM PST by FreeInWV (Have you had enough change yet?)
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To: Mariner
"That treaty is called the 1994 Budapest Memorandum, and obviously Russia has been stepping all over it. So now, as a co-signer of that treaty, what do we do?"

Brought to you by the same yahoos that gave us The Dayton Accords, how did that work out for Yugoslavia?

64 posted on 03/02/2014 10:41:19 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: FreeInWV

No way Russia was ever going to give up on The Crimea. It was foolish to think otherwise.


65 posted on 03/02/2014 10:42:23 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Ukranian Forces on High Alert????? What does that mean in the face of the Russian Army?

They've all been issued bongs.

66 posted on 03/02/2014 10:47:45 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Ukraine has no nukes.

No, but an illegal alien that stole two US Presidential elections has plenty of nukes. And drones, and planes, and missiles and ships. He has also stated repeatedly that he can do whatever he wants. The Russians have to contain him now. It is for world peace. We are at fault for allowing an illegal alien to control the military of the worlds former super power.

67 posted on 03/02/2014 11:55:46 AM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Sacajaweau
If they do, then that Memorandum (which was brought up yesterday) is null and void. I believe it was just that...a memo written during lunch.

It was a piece of garbage that should have been used for toilet paper.

68 posted on 03/02/2014 11:56:55 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Kozak

Sadly it is a lesson to our enemies as well - Iran and North Korea.


69 posted on 03/02/2014 12:19:31 PM PST by Eurotwit
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To: don-o

“...Obie giving Vlad a good talking to. Note optics - got his sleeves rolled up.....”

It was staged for a photo-op to make the foreign gay pansy look “tough”. He was probably on the phone with president Jarrett.


70 posted on 03/02/2014 1:44:35 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: justa-hairyape
You don't suppose Obozo would deliberately start a nuclear war, do you? That would be the height of total insanity. As much as I despite the guy, even I don't think he's that nuts.
71 posted on 03/02/2014 1:46:33 PM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Tonytitan

“...Meanwhile, Obambi sucks his thumb in the Oval Office.

You don’t mean the one he just pulled out of his ass, do you?....”

Of course! He probably just loves the taste of seconds when it comes to Reggie.


72 posted on 03/02/2014 1:47:33 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: don-o

Yes, and to show it is not an old file photo, the casual dress - it must be a working weekend. Gotcha! Right arm in power pose (of a gay polka dancer.)


73 posted on 03/02/2014 1:48:02 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: hoagy62

“...What I’d really be worried about is if he parked a couple of Typhoons off the East or West Coasts....”

You know they’re out there. The ship in Cuba is probably part of their intelligence/targeting network. Putie Toot has a gun pointed at odongo’s head. The question is: How stupid is odongo after he finishes crapping his pants?


74 posted on 03/02/2014 1:52:04 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: hoagy62
The US has a big problem in Fukushima. Three US built reactors completely melted down and are continuously releasing radioactive gases and particles. Non-stop with no way to stop the releases possible utilizing current technologies. And Tepco just admitted that all radioactive measurements for the past three year were grossly underestimated by the sub-contractor performing the measurements. Both the US and Japan can be sued out of existence by the eventual contamination of countries that exist in the Northern Hemisphere. Japan needs a new homeland. IE - Expansionists War. The US needs to cover up what will eventually become, if not already, the worse radiation releases in world history. So in a nut shell, they do not need a Global Nuclear War, just a limited exchange with a few tactical. Or perhaps the neo-nazi’s will storm a few nuclear reactors and cause a few to meltdown. Once you go nuke, you can never go back.
75 posted on 03/02/2014 2:36:29 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: dowcaet

Your sarcasm tells me I could have left the pronunciation alone.

Prolly right.


76 posted on 03/02/2014 2:36:34 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: demshateGod
However, I doubt the nation nor the military can offer anything that reassembles a united front. Unification of purpose is what’s needed to repel a Russian route. The Western interests will need help, but no Western country is in any position to help.

You've just described Afghanistan, which was (and remains) divided by race, ethnicity and tribe - Tajik, Hazara, Uzbek, Pashtun and a bunch of smaller groups with distinct languages - when the Soviets invaded. There's plenty any interested party can do to help without sending troops. Using a few billion dollars of foreign aid, Afghans wore the mighty Red Army out after less than a decade of hostilities and 13K Russian dead. If the Ukrainians are prepared to fight, the Russians will leave, probably only after a protracted guerrilla war, but leave they will.

77 posted on 03/02/2014 2:54:25 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: demshateGod
In fact, just after WWII, Stepan Bandera's guerrilla force killed tens of thousands of Russian troops and party cadres after a decade of irregular warfare:

In 1951 CIA covert operations chief Frank Wisner estimated that some 35,000 Soviet police troops and Communist party cadres had been eliminated by guerrillas affiliated with the Ukrainian Insurgent Army in the period after the end of World War II.
Bandera's guerrillas fought with no outside help. It's not clear that today's Russians are prepared to deal with this kind of death toll. And the Russians conducted mass killings of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians to keep their casualties low (in the tens of thousands). Would they get away with that in modern-day Ukraine? Maybe, but not without triggering a flood of foreign weaponry to the Ukrainians.
78 posted on 03/02/2014 3:31:34 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Corporate Democrat

And who is the current democratically elected president of Ukraine, and where is he at the moment?


79 posted on 03/02/2014 3:53:24 PM PST by PAR35
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To: servantboy777

Unarmed forces regularly cross the southern border of the U.S. unchallenged.


80 posted on 03/02/2014 6:35:57 PM PST by sefarkas (Why vote Democrat Lite?)
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