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Ukraine mobilizes after Putin's 'declaration of war'
Reuters ^ | March 2, 2014 | Peter Graff and Alissa de Carbonnel

Posted on 03/02/2014 6:17:11 AM PST by Corporate Democrat

(Reuters) - Ukraine mobilized for war on Sunday, after Russian President Vladimir Putin declared he had the right to invade, creating the biggest confrontation between Moscow and the West since the Cold War.

"This is not a threat: this is actually the declaration of war to my country," said Ukraine's Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk, head of a pro-Western government that took power when Russian ally Viktor Yanukovich fled last week.

Putin obtained permission from his parliament on Saturday to use military force to protect Russian citizens in Ukraine, spurning Western pleas not intervene.

Russian forces have already bloodlessly seized Crimea - an isolated Black Sea peninsula where Moscow has a naval base. On Sunday they surrounded several small Ukrainian military outposts there and demanded the Ukrainian troops disarm. Some refused, although no shots were fired.

Russia has staged war games with 150,000 troops along the land border, but so far they have not crossed. However, pro-Russian demonstrators have marched in the east of the country and have raised Russian flags over government buildings in several cities, in what Kiev says is a move orchestrated by Moscow to justify a wider invasion.

Ukraine's security council ordered the general staff to immediately put all armed forces on highest alert, the council's secretary Andriy Parubiy announced.

The Defense Ministry was ordered to conduct a call-up of reserves - theoretically all men up to 40 in a country with universal male conscription, though Ukraine would struggle to find extra guns or uniforms for significant numbers of them.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: crimea; declaration; mobilizes; putin; putins; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; war; yuliatymoshenko
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To: Shady

The ship in Havana didn’t look like a destroyer to me but more like an auxiliary with a Shilka mount forward and an impressive array of aerials.


81 posted on 03/02/2014 7:35:47 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: mulder1
Ukraine defense minister just said they cannot defeat russian army.

Ukraine defense minister also knows that most of his troops will not fight Russia and that many will switch sides if push comes to shove.

82 posted on 03/02/2014 7:43:30 PM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: don-o

Well there you have it, he’s got his sleeves rolled up! He should have had his smart glasses on to really let them know he’s serious!

Stupid liberal doucheweed poseurs.


83 posted on 03/02/2014 8:07:52 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: Corporate Democrat
Russia will roll right into Ukraine just like they did Afghanistan, and obama will not be able to do a thing about it. Just like Carter, maybe worse.
84 posted on 03/02/2014 8:59:37 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Russia will roll right into Ukraine just like they did Afghanistan, and obama will not be able to do a thing about it. Just like Carter, maybe worse.

I think they're just going to settle in Crimea for now. Perhaps more a year or so down the line.

85 posted on 03/02/2014 9:01:30 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

Very possible, but it won’t be because they are concerned about obama retaliation.


86 posted on 03/02/2014 9:26:00 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
Ukranian Forces on High Alert????? What does that mean in the face of the Russian Army?

About as much as the Polish army meant in the face Nazi Germany's Wehrmacht.

87 posted on 03/02/2014 9:28:11 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Repeal 16-17

Nazis lost 15,000 in the September campaign. Poland only capitulated because the Soviets moved in from the East. If not for that, they could have held out longer than France ultimately did.


88 posted on 03/02/2014 9:30:34 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Tonytitan; hoagy62

>>>The Typhoons are a memory. All six have been retired and 3 have been scrapped. The other three are sitting with empty missile tubes as the R-39’s have been retired from service. They may get the new Bulava missile, they may not. Probably depends on how successful the new Borei-class boomers are. Three are built, two are in active service. The remaining Typhoons will probably be scrapped.<<<

7 Delta IV boomers are still in service with Russian Navy too.


89 posted on 03/02/2014 10:46:37 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Corporate Democrat; SunkenCiv; gandalftb

What’s left out of most Western analyses of Putin’s brazen military intervention is the Crimea’s complete economic dependence on the mainland, which provides nearly all of its electricity and water and about 70 percent of its food.

Most of the Crimea is basically a desert, with less annual rainfall than Los Angeles. It is impossible to sustain its 2 million people—including agriculture and the substantial tourist industry—without Ukrainian water. Current supplies aren’t even enough.

In Sevastopol, home of the Black Sea Fleet, households get water only on certain days. In fact, on Feb. 19, when snipers were shooting protesters on the streets of Kiev, Sevastopol applied for $34 million in Western
aid (note the irony) to improve its water and sewer systems.
Crimean Tatars. Some 300,000 have returned from exile and their numbers are growing, with continued migration and birth rates higher than either Russians or Ukrainians. They strongly oppose any separatism, and they will not go peacefully into a Russian-controlled, authoritarian
“Yanukistan” along the lines of Transdnistria. Not only are they extremely well organized, they are Muslims with friends. Representatives from Russia’s Tatarstan region are already supporting them. Turkey, which controlled the Crimea for much longer than Russia ever did and has close ties with the Crimean Tatars, is watching. So are Chechen rebels.

The Crimea could explode into bloodshed. To prevent if from happening, maybe turning off the power for 15 minutes will force a reboot in Putin’s aggressive, misguided, and ultimately doomed scheme.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/03/vladimir_putin_s_crimean_mistake_the_russian_president_is_miscalculating.html


90 posted on 03/03/2014 1:01:45 AM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: hoagy62
2) That ‘Budapest Memorandum’...yes, they should have given over all their nukes. What if they didn’t? What if they managed to sneak a few away for ‘insurance’? Would it it have been possible to flim-flam the nations doing the observing of the transfer? I say...you bet.

Yeah, what if? I doubt the Ukranian people have forgotten their historically bad treatment from the Russians. I wouldn't blame them a bit for retaining some insurance, and wouldn't be too surprized to see it put to use, soon.

91 posted on 03/03/2014 1:48:57 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: cunning_fish
7 Delta IV boomers are still in service with Russian Navy too

When was the last time one went on patrol with a well-trained, experienced and sober crew? And did so without a Los Angeles or Virginia class boat stalking them.

92 posted on 03/03/2014 4:15:39 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: Shady

One well-aimed nuclear-tipped cruise missile up its stern would end that presence.


93 posted on 03/03/2014 8:32:32 AM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: 3Fingas

The Israeli’s “don’t have nukes” either...


94 posted on 03/03/2014 8:46:12 AM PST by E Rocc (November 2, 2010: The beginning of the end of the kleptocracy.)
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To: hoagy62

No; but those who pull his strings - like Jaret and Soros - THEY ARE both insane sociopaths


95 posted on 03/03/2014 8:54:39 AM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
Russian forces have already bloodlessly seized Crimea this is one of those "rumors of wars"
96 posted on 03/03/2014 12:12:21 PM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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97 posted on 03/03/2014 12:14:30 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: justa-hairyape

I was just wondering what all the distraction was about. Thank you for reminding me. Fukushima.


98 posted on 03/03/2014 12:23:56 PM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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