What about Bandera and the Liviv Pogrom of 1941? Or do you want to forget about them?
Posted on 03/02/2014 9:00:06 AM PST by jimbo123
As the fires die down from the turmoil in Kiev, a political party that has been accused of promoting anti-Semitism and xenophobia is set to reap the benefits of the new government arrangement.
The Svoboda Party will take control of not one, but three ministries in the interim government.
These posts include the deputy prime minister and the heads of the agriculture and environmental ministries. In addition to these positions, a Svoboda lawmaker was appointed the new prosecutor general in the interim government.
Svoboda’s leader, Oleh Tyahnybok, is one of the leading opposition figures during the recent crisis in Ukraine and met with Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain when the former presidential candidate visited the tumultuous country last December.
Tyahnybok and other party leaders have been accused of making numerous anti-Semitic and racist remarks. In 2004, Tyahnybok urged his party in a televised speech to fight “the Moscow-Jewish mafia ruling Ukraine.”
In 2012, deputy party leader Ihor Miroshnychenko called actress Mila Kunis, who was born in the Ukraine, a “dirty Jewess,” which instantly drew international condemnation. Another party official, Yuriy Mykhalchyshyn founded a think tank called the Joseph Goebbels Political Research Centre, which was named as a tribute to the notorious Nazi propaganda minister.
Even the founding name and original name of Svoboda bear an eerie resemblance to the Nazis. They were founded as the Social National Party of Ukraine and adopted the “wolfsangel” rune as their party logo, which was also a symbol used by Waffen-SS divisions in World War II and is a popular icon among neo-Nazis.
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Not good.
I’m sure the Bandera-ites were a minority of the protestors.
But then again, the Bolsheviks were a minority among those who were protesting against the Czar...In chaos, the most ruthless usually wins.
This time around it’s either the Nazis or the Russians.
Until such time as it turns around again.
For those of you that cant keep track...the State Department sides with the jailed billionaire Oligarch’s side in this and wants the Neo Nazi conferred with on a regular basis
So Oligarch regime back by Neo Nazis is the US plan as per the leaked call by Nuland
“This time around it’s either the Nazis or the Russians.”
No, it could just be the Ukrainians in charge of the Ukraine.
Not all Ukrainians are Nazis.
Some powerful Neo Nazis are behind this coup.
With the help of the US.
So yes,it is the Russians or the Nazis this time around.
Of course, Ukraine being Ukraine...Russians and Nazis may form a coalition, too.
“Everyone looking for a proxy side to support or oppose in the Ukraine political dynamic will be disappointed. Ukraine politics go by their own rules. Today’s neoliberal ultranationalist could be tomorrow’s Kremlin ally, and visa-versa. Just look at what happened to the Orange Revolution—nothing. To wit:”
https://tendancecoatesy.wordpress.com/2014/02/25/ukraine-everything-you-know-may-be-wrong/
It’s not a coup. It’s a rebellion. There’s a difference. Also, the prime players are Ukrainians who were fed up with the corruption of the pro-Moscow regime. Thus, it is not “Russians or the Nazis this time around”.
Some of the instigators who are bringing in the arms are powerful Nazis. Do you just turn a blind eye to that.
My oh my...what could go wrong when a Powerful Neo Nazi is made the Chief Prosecutor of a corrupted 3rd world land....
“Some of the instigators who are bringing in the arms are powerful Nazis.”
Actually, technically speaking none of them are Nazis. What you mean is that they are anti-Semitic. I doubt any of them are socialist - which is a pre-requisite to being a true Nazi. And, quite frankly, Nazi of not, what they did was right.
“Do you just turn a blind eye to that.”
No, I just don’t see Nazis lurking under every Ukrainian’s bed.
“My oh my...what could go wrong when a Powerful Neo Nazi is made the Chief Prosecutor of a corrupted 3rd world land....”
1) It’s not the Third World. 2) He might not be as bad as Eric Holder. 3) No matter how bad he is, the rebellion was morally justified.
Well if they were “Nazis”, somebody forgot to tell Hitler.
They were scum, but they weren’t “Nazis”, more opportunists.
“Well if they were “Nazis”, somebody forgot to tell Hitler.”
Exactly. Everyone keeps throwing around the word Nazi. The only Slavs I know of who the Nazis accepted as a worthwhile race were the Cossacks.
“They were scum, but they weren’t “Nazis”, more opportunists.”
Worse. They were purist ideologues. Opportunists can be reasoned with. Ideologues can only win or die trying.
The sad fact is, Ukrainian partisans and Polish AK would have made a good team to keep their lands free, but the hardcode Ukrainians would have none of it.
Worse. They were purist ideologues. Opportunists can be reasoned with. Ideologues can only win or die trying.
Correct, and in history, much carnage has happened between the "win" and the "die."
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“The sad fact is, Ukrainian partisans and Polish AK would have made a good team to keep their lands free, but the hardcode Ukrainians would have none of it.”
They would have failed together. That’s still not success. And the Poles would have only fought for Poland - just like the Ukrainians would only have fought for Ukraine. Poland had a long history of treating Ukrainians like crap. And the Ukrainians had a long history of holding grudges.
We don't know that. What we know that together they represented a powerful military presence, and that perhaps the West might have noticed and acted.
There are Holocaust/Soros/EU obsessives here who despise the Poles, the Ukrainians, the Baltics and love the Red Army Liberators.
And they don’t even know that a ‘Nazi’ was a member of the German NSDAP political party which ceased existing in 1945, and no, the party did not conduct the war between 1939 and 1945, nor did it commit war crimes.
Sorry, having grown up with a whole lot of Eastern Europeans, Finno-Ugrians and Central Asians - Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, White Russians, Ukrainians, Kalmyks, Finns, Hungarians, etc. - you learn early that they felt compelled to choose the Nazis over the oppressive Communists to rid their countries of those oppressive Communists. I don’t hold that against them. Thus, I’ve never believed the existence of ethnic based SS formations was anything in itself to be ashamed of. These people are thought of as patriots in their home countries by many of their fellows.
So why did Bandera and Crew go after Poles, who hated Communists even more than they did?
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