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Alaska group advances call for convention of states
Fairbanks Daily News-Miner ^ | March 2, 2014

Posted on 03/02/2014 5:10:14 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

JUNEAU, Alaska - A proposal urging a convention of the states to propose amendments to the U.S. Constitution has advanced from the House Finance Committee.

HJR22 would place Alaska on record as urging Congress to call a convention of the states to propose constitutional amendments that "impose fiscal restraints on the federal government, limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, and limit the terms of office of federal government officials." HJR22 is sponsored by North Pole Republican Rep. Tammie Wilson.

The resolution is meant to serve as a "continuing application" making the request until at least two-thirds of state legislatures around the country make similar petitions.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; US: Alaska
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1 posted on 03/02/2014 5:10:14 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jacquerie; Baynative; Hostage

Article V ping.


2 posted on 03/02/2014 5:11:26 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
 "impose fiscal restraints on the federal government, limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, and limit the terms of office of federal government officials." 

yeah....that'll work.

3 posted on 03/02/2014 5:13:21 PM PST by dasboot
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To: Jet Jaguar
If it gets close to happening, Ubama will have no choice except to declare martial law.
4 posted on 03/02/2014 5:14:03 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I would support an amendment that (1) clearly allows for state nullification of federal laws the state’s legislature believes violates the Constitution, (2) required Senate consent for the publication of all federal cases that may only after publication be used for legal precedent; (3) repeal the 16th amendment and disallows any income tax by federal, state or local government on individuals; (4) repeal 17th amendment and return the Senate to the States.


5 posted on 03/02/2014 5:18:27 PM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Jet Jaguar

Let’s just make sure this is STAYS as an Article V Convention for Proposing Amendments and NOT CHANGED INTO a Constitutional Convention as some have proposed in order to rewrite the Constitution. The former will hopefully do some good. The latter would be a disaster for our country.


6 posted on 03/02/2014 5:21:45 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: Gluteus Maximus
My dream amendment is known by the name of the Utah Option, although how it got that name back in the Eighties is beyond me.

If the legislatures of three-fourths of the states pass a Resolution of No Confidence in the federal government, that government is dissolved. Elections for president, vice president, the House and all Senate seats will take place after 30 days, and no incumbent will be eligible to run.

Following installation of the new government, the entire federal bench will be fired and replaced by the new government.

This will solve a lot of problems.

7 posted on 03/02/2014 5:23:53 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: PapaNew
The amendatory process under Article V consists of three steps: Proposal, Disposal, and Ratification.

Proposal:

There are two ways to propose an amendment to the Constitution.

Article V gives Congress and an Amendments Convention exactly the same power to propose amendments, no more and no less.

Disposal:

Once Congress, or an Amendments Convention, proposes amendments, Congress must decide whether the states will ratify by the:

The State Ratifying Convention Method has only been used twice: once to ratify the Constitution, and once to ratify the 21st Amendment repealing Prohibition.

Ratification:

Depending upon which ratification method is chosen by Congress, either the state legislatures vote up-or-down on the proposed amendment, or the voters elect a state ratifying convention to vote up-or-down. If three-quarters of the states vote to ratify, the amendment becomes part of the Constitution.

Forbidden Subjects:

Article V contains two explicitly forbidden subjects and one implicitly forbidden subject.

Explicitly forbidden:

Implicitly forbidden:

I have two reference works for those interested.

The first is from the American Legislative Exchange Council, a conservative pro-business group. This document has been sent to every state legislator in the country.

Proposing Constitutional Amendments by a Convention of the States: A Handbook for State Lawmakers

The second is a 1973 report from the American Bar Association attempting to identify gray areas in the amendatory process to include an Amendments Convention. It represents the view of the ruling class of 40 years ago. While I dislike some of their conclusions, they have laid out the precedents that may justify those conclusions. What I respect is the comprehensive job they did in locating all the gray areas. They went so far as to identify a gray area that didn't pop up until the Equal Rights Amendment crashed and burned a decade later. Even if you find yourself in disagreement with their vision, it's worth reading to see the view of the ruling class toward the process.

Report of the ABA Special Constitutional Convention Study Committee

8 posted on 03/02/2014 5:24:43 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: dasboot
yeah....that'll work

From a group of people who think they are the reincarnation of Madison, Jefferson, and Franklin.

9 posted on 03/02/2014 5:26:15 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Publius

Yes, that’s interesting. We need to restore the States to their proper role. The 17th Amendment has done horrible damage.


10 posted on 03/02/2014 5:27:35 PM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Gluteus Maximus

We also need to limit the power of the President to issue executive orders that change legally legislated laws.


11 posted on 03/02/2014 5:38:23 PM PST by Laserman
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To: Gluteus Maximus

I would also like to see restrictions on the creation of “czars” that are outside normal constitutional controls.


12 posted on 03/02/2014 5:39:44 PM PST by Laserman
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Less than $2.7k to go!!

Make Today, Day 61 the day!

13 posted on 03/02/2014 5:48:36 PM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Gluteus Maximus

If the president and attorney general can nullify laws they don’t like, why should states not do the same? Chicken, I guess.


14 posted on 03/02/2014 5:48:46 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: dasboot
yeah....that'll work.

Before too many years pass, I think there will be only one thing that will work.

15 posted on 03/02/2014 5:50:00 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Mark17

The only question in Franklin’s and Jefferson’s minds was, ‘When?’

Stan Makita ....yeah!


16 posted on 03/02/2014 5:56:10 PM PST by dasboot
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To: txrefugee

Great point. Obama isn’t exactly in a position to complain about nullification by anybody, especially the legislature of a sovereign state.


17 posted on 03/02/2014 5:57:19 PM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: Jet Jaguar; Publius; Jacquerie; All
Research links on the Article V process and the Liberty Amendments:

Convention of States - Alabama Way to go Alabama! A good introduction.

'Convention of states' to rein in government? Another great summary explanation.

The Case for an Article V. Convention. Fantastic explanation of Article V convention to the Mass State Legislature.

I would recommend watching the above three videos first and then:

Convention of States Lots of information here.

A Summary of Mark Levin’s Proposed Amendments by Jacquerie

Chapter 1 of Mark Levin’s Book, The Liberty Amendments

Mark Levin, Constitution Article V, and the Liberty Amendments

Article V Project to Restore Liberty

Rep. Bill Taylor introduces a Convention of States

Citizens for Self Governance: Convention of States Project – a hub of 15 youtube videos on the Convention of States

Mark Levin Article V, Liberty Amendments youtube video hub

Three hour video of C-Span interview with Mark Levin

Amendments Convention Links

Gaining Steam? Nearly 100 Lawmakers Descend on Mount Vernon to Talk Convention of States The beginning.

Convention to Propose Amendments to the United States Constitution

The Other Way to Amend the Constitution: The Article V Constitutional Convention Amendment Process

Friends of Article V Convention Links

Ulysses at the Mast: Democracy, Federalism, and the Sirens' Song of the Seventeenth Amendmentby Jay Bybee. Repeal the 17th!

Article V Convention: Path of Least Resistance By Robert Berry

The Final Constitutional Option

Article V Handbook - for State Legislators

State Legislators Article V Caucus State Legislators, Join up at this site!

Send this list of links to your State Representatives and Senators here: Contact your State Legislators.

Sample Letter to state Representatives regarding the Convention of States Project and also, Talking Points. Both from Here.

Excellent Article V Letter to a State Assemblyman by Jacquerie

Let’s all work together to get this going. Contact your state legislator tomorrow.

The Federal Government is broken. We owe it to The Founders and ourselves to attempt a rational Article V amendment process. If it doesn't work, or is hijacked, then fine, it's on to what we're all expecting anyway, revolution. It's your call America.

18 posted on 03/02/2014 6:01:56 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: dasboot
Stan Makita ....yeah!

The best thing that ever happened to them, is when Rocky Wirtz took over the team. Out of respect, however, I will not say why he took over, but he has a different attitude than his father. BTW, Toews, Zajac, Parise, Oshie, and Frattin, all played at my alma mater.

19 posted on 03/02/2014 6:12:15 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
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To: Jet Jaguar

This path to a dictatorship will not be stopped. Problem is 2/3 of Americans have no idea what is happening and most of them don’t give a damn.


20 posted on 03/02/2014 9:23:33 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Publius; Resolute Conservative; VerySadAmerican; Nuc 1.1; MamaTexan; Political Junkie Too; jeffc; ..

Article V ping!


21 posted on 03/03/2014 1:26:54 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: dasboot; Mark17
If the amendments are anything like those proposed by Mark Levin, they will do enormous good, for power will once again be divided between the states and the federal government they created. These are structural reforms that cannot be ignored.

Summary of Mark Levin's Amendments.

22 posted on 03/03/2014 1:39:13 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: Art in Idaho; dasboot

I understand the initial caution expressed by some, but when our situation is examined rationally, we have no option but an Article V state amendment convention.

For practical purposes, the freedom guarantees of the constitution are gone.

Our Framers bequeathed to us a peaceful means to restore freedom that they didn’t have. Are we to so readily join history’s long list of failed republics when the means to reverse course is right in front of us?


23 posted on 03/03/2014 1:51:54 AM PST by Jacquerie (Article V.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Bump.


24 posted on 03/03/2014 9:54:09 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Bookmark


25 posted on 03/03/2014 12:33:31 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: Laserman
We also need to limit the power of the President

This is, in fact, one of Mark Levin's proposals.

26 posted on 03/03/2014 2:20:39 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Jacquerie
Our Framers bequeathed to us a peaceful means to restore freedom that they didn’t have. Are we to so readily join history’s long list of failed republics when the means to reverse course is right in front of us?

The federal government is broken. I would venture to guess The Founders would be absolutely shocked if they could just appear and be informed of our current condition.

The only step left before secession or revolution is the Article V Convention of States process. I would implore all Americans to get up to speed with this process and get involved. Contact your state legislators now as a majority of the states are in session. Do the research and Fight for Freedom!

27 posted on 03/03/2014 3:58:17 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Art in Idaho

Actually, there is another remedy. One that does not make us vulnerable to the total, absolute destruction of our Constitution in one fell swoop. The states can just say “No” to the federal government. States have this right – have always had this right – and it’s time they use it. This is a very simple answer to our dilemma. With our Constitution, the states gave limited, enumerated power and authority to the central government. They reserved to themselves and the people most authority and responsibility for governing. The fact that we have decades of precedent for federal usurpation of power does not make it lawful.

Refusing to accept unconstitutional mandates is known as “nullification” and you can learn more about it at these sites. http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/#nullification and http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/

I really like the “Utah Option” above but there is no Constitutional basis for it. This would get rid of the unconstitutional governors in one fell swoop but save our government


28 posted on 03/09/2014 3:48:06 PM PDT by Give Freedom A Chance
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To: Give Freedom A Chance
Thanks for the info and the links. Will research.
29 posted on 03/10/2014 4:37:56 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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