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Justices Decline To Re-enter Immigration Debate
AP ^ | 03/03/2014 | Staff

Posted on 03/03/2014 2:55:49 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan

PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- A former Pennsylvania coal town and a Dallas suburb lost a lengthy battle to enact anti-immigrant laws Monday when the U.S. Supreme Court declined to hear their appeals.

The high court has held since 2012 that immigration issues are largely a matter for federal agencies, not local governments, to regulate.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: scotus

1 posted on 03/03/2014 2:55:50 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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To: Lurking Libertarian; Perdogg; JDW11235; Clairity; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; GregNH; Salvation; ...

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

2 posted on 03/03/2014 2:56:54 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I guess this means local and state governments no longer have to collect gasoline taxes for the feds. I guess police departments will never go around enforcing any federal laws now?

All the Dallas suburb did was call the feds if they suspected an arrestee was in the country illegally, that is what the program was set up for.


3 posted on 03/03/2014 3:01:43 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

They didn’t answer a fundamental question: What option do the states have when the federal government refuses to enforce the laws enacted.


4 posted on 03/03/2014 3:03:21 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

We can’t wait. If the Federal government won’t act, we will. (Ubama doctrine)


5 posted on 03/03/2014 3:10:28 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Of course they answered that question. The answer was ... “none”.


6 posted on 03/03/2014 3:11:55 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: GeronL

Farmers Branch did a little more than call the feds. They attempted to ban illegal immigrants from renting property. (Personally, I think Farmers Branch was in the right.)


7 posted on 03/03/2014 3:11:56 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

me too


8 posted on 03/03/2014 3:12:20 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

How can an illegal alien (or their proxy ACLU) have standing?


9 posted on 03/03/2014 3:16:33 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: GeronL

“All the Dallas suburb did was call the feds if they suspected an arrestee was in the country illegally, that is what the program was set up for.”

This case wasn’t about the cooperative DHS system between the local constabulary and the Feds in re: illegal aliens called ‘Secure Communities’ that was/is(?) used in another Dallas suburb, Irving and received significant media coverage.

This was about banning illegals from renting within Farmers Branch city limits. The PA town took that one step further and banned illegals from working.


10 posted on 03/03/2014 3:19:41 PM PST by Ready4Freddy
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To: Ray76
How can an illegal alien (or their proxy ACLU) have standing?

Ask Osama Obama's own illegal alien aunt and uncle...both of whom have been granted permission to stay after having ignored several deportation orders issue over many years.

11 posted on 03/03/2014 3:25:32 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
However, our SCOTUS refuses to hear the appealfor asylum of the German family that wanted to homeschool their children.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3129035/posts

And of course the 9th Circuit say's it's ok for forbid the wearing of the American flag in California high schools.

I'm so sick to bleeding gums death of politicians, bureaucrats, Secretaries Of..., 'Czars,' and the black robed sewer rats who lord over us these days.

12 posted on 03/03/2014 3:26:15 PM PST by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: Ray76

In these two particular cases, local city governments were the entities who filed suit, the City of Farmers Branch, TX and the City of Hazelton, PA, respectively.


13 posted on 03/03/2014 3:27:33 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I think it is a good idea to pass the local laws anyway. Some illegals will decide to reside elsewhere.


14 posted on 03/03/2014 3:29:57 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: VR-21

I am sorry for the German family. I hate that Holder Department of Injustice appealed the grant of asylum to that family. However, there was not a constitutional question that SCOTUS needed to resolve in that case. The Constitution grants Congress the power to enact laws regarding immigration. Congress can act to address that case.


15 posted on 03/03/2014 3:35:33 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

The several states created the federal, not the other way around, so they should be allowed - even encouraged - to have local and statewide laws that supplement and augment any federal legislation if it suits their needs. The federal government has no standing to prevent laws within the states or localities.


16 posted on 03/03/2014 3:36:08 PM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( ))))
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To: ObamahatesPACoal

If we can have sanctuary cities, why can’t we have anti-sanctuary cities?


17 posted on 03/03/2014 3:37:20 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Two Kids' Dad

Pass 10 immigration laws and even if only 1 of them you can enforce the illegal situation is better than it was before.


18 posted on 03/03/2014 3:41:44 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: BuckeyeTexan
"The Constitution grants Congress the power to enact laws regarding immigration."

Yea, roger that.

"Congress can act to address that case."

I'll hold my breath.

Forgive my sarcasm, but I do find it frustrating sometimes how Supreme Court judges are so selective about when they can and cannot legislate.

19 posted on 03/03/2014 3:42:45 PM PST by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Why did they file suit?


20 posted on 03/03/2014 3:46:13 PM PST by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I believe that Fremont, NE did the same thing.


21 posted on 03/03/2014 5:02:58 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Ray76; RIghtwardHo; Blood of Tyrants
Blood of Tyrants:
They didn’t answer a fundamental question: What option do the states have when the federal government refuses to enforce the laws enacted.

RIghtwardHo:
Of course they answered that question. The answer was ... “none”.

Ray76:
We can’t wait. If the Federal government won’t act, we will.

We actually can do something at the state-level... completely legal and while it would throw a monkey-wrench into the national politics it's not itself a political move… it goes something like this:

  1. Governor declares a state of invasion (because of illegal immigrants).
    This, in itself, would make a vote for amnesty [very arguably] an act of treason.
  2. Governor calls the national guard (and possibly the unorganized militia) to defend the state.
  3. Governor demands that the Federal government assist under Art 4, Sec 4.
    This leaves the federal government with three options:
    1. Render Aid
      Highly unlikely, it would result in a good many politically people who have been pushing for open borders to have egg on their face.
    2. Do Nothing
      This is the most likely; the federal government would hem and haw, but do nothing; this would rightly enrage a lot of people.
    3. Attack
      This is unlikely, but possible: the federal government could aid the invaders by force (executive), lawfare (legislative), and/or holding the states as non-sovereign (Judicial).
      ALL of these are Treason, by Constitutional definition.
  4. Regardless of the FedGov's response, a lot of people will be impressed with that state's governor.
  5. It would likely show that the FedGov has no intent to holding to its Constitutional obligations, even in martial matters.
  6. It would flush out a lot of the domestic enemies we have in the federal government.

22 posted on 03/04/2014 8:03:35 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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