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| March 3, 2014
| Pat Buchanan
Posted on 03/03/2014 7:32:33 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: KC_Lion
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posted on
03/03/2014 8:54:16 PM PST
by
re_nortex
(DP - that's what I like about Texas)
To: Olog-hai
I just read your original post and see that I misunderstood you. Sorry. You were perfectly clear in your statement.
One wonders if Pat Buchanan and Richard Nixon did not share a wee bit of anti-Semitism? One would think so by Nixon's recorded remarks, yet he did send support to Israel at the existential moment.
Whatever Buchanan's other failings, he has been right on a lot of things and it is a pity that we did not heed him on those other things over the past decades.
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posted on
03/03/2014 9:00:59 PM PST
by
nathanbedford
("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
To: nathanbedford
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posted on
03/03/2014 9:44:13 PM PST
by
fortheDeclaration
(Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
To: Mariner
Question is, did anybody actually believe that Vladimir Putin was going to just sit there and watch George Soros, Monsanto, and the US state department just walk off with the Ukraine? Has five years of Bork Obunga really dumbed anybody down that much???
The official title of the tsars was 'Tsar of all the Russias', meaning 'Great Russia' (Russia), 'White Russia' (Belorus), and 'Little Russia' (Ukraine). You're talking about something like letting some Russian company just walk off with Guam or Puerto Rico.
To: Olog-hai
Thank you for that little bit of help in understanding things, Bibi. Maybe you can help us understand our moral duty in policing the world when Likud finishes handing us our orders. I never knew you had an account here, but it is comforting to consider it.
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posted on
03/04/2014 12:07:54 AM PST
by
AK_47_7.62x39
(There are many moderate Muslims, but there is no such thing as a moderate Islam. -- Geert Wilders)
To: Colonel Kangaroo
Not that I’m a pacifist but one should remember that we entered World War I with Woodrow Wilson (Progressive Movement), World War II with FDR, the Korean War with Truman, the Vietnam War with John Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson, and Afghanistan with Bill Clinton.
Remember this next time people start talking about all the war mongers.
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posted on
03/04/2014 2:54:44 AM PST
by
HarleyD
("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
To: Colonel Kangaroo
So, to all the warhawks on here, what exactly is Ukraine's strategic value to the U.S.? And what would you have our country do, actually attack Russia? With our severely weakened and degraded military?
We're not dealing with Iraq or North Korea here, but the big bear itself, and in case no one has noticed, we're outgunned right now in the worst possible way.
Food for serious thought.
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posted on
03/04/2014 3:13:30 AM PST
by
Timber Rattler
(Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
To: Enterprise
Well, I’ve sure seen a lot of chest beating around here on FR over the past week.
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posted on
03/04/2014 3:15:18 AM PST
by
Timber Rattler
(Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
To: Timber Rattler
Perhaps for threads like this we should define a few terms for us unenlightened: conservative, paleoconservative, neoconservative. Not who, but what are you talking about? Or maybe who after you define what. Throw in a when and how and wherefore while you’re at it. We just need to be sure the “name-calling” is justified.
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posted on
03/04/2014 4:21:09 AM PST
by
tenger
(It's a good thing we don't get all the government we pay for. -Will Rogers)
To: Olog-hai
They just did comply with my demand for a referendum (March 30).
I respect what Putin did here to protect Crimea.
On this issue I stand with Putin and I reject Ted Cruz who made ignorant comments on this matter.
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posted on
03/04/2014 5:51:54 AM PST
by
impimp
To: impimp
Who was Putin protecting the Crimea from? I didn’t see that anyone was attacking it.
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posted on
03/04/2014 5:58:30 AM PST
by
Olog-hai
To: Timber Rattler
We’re certainly out-leadered.
This was co-engineered by the European Union; don’t let their posturing fool you. They are looking for any excuse to form a military union and shut the USA out.
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posted on
03/04/2014 5:59:44 AM PST
by
Olog-hai
To: Olog-hai
Crimea was a major supporter of the elected Ukrainian President. He was driven out in a coup so democracy ceased to exist for the Crimean people. How did our founding fathers feel about not having a vote?
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posted on
03/04/2014 6:02:31 AM PST
by
impimp
To: impimp
Very sad that we’re back to the 1950s in geopolitics. We’re sliding rapidly back towards the 1930s too.
As for “elected”, that’s a cheap term these days, which is even sadder. After all, people like Mohammed Morsi in Egypt were themselves elected.
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posted on
03/04/2014 6:05:54 AM PST
by
Olog-hai
To: PieterCasparzen
“... Imports to US from Russia: $26,961,500,000 ...”
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Man, that’s a whole lot of wodka!
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posted on
03/04/2014 6:34:30 AM PST
by
Repeal The 17th
(We have met the enemy and he is us.)
To: Olog-hai
Ah,
Morsi, the Western intel operative.
From the link:
"He earned a bachelor's and master's degree in engineering from Cairo University in 1975 and 1978, respectively. Morsi then earned a government scholarship that enabled him to study in the United States. Morsi received a PhD in materials science from the University of Southern California in 1982 with his dissertation High-Temperature Electrical Conductivity and Defect Structure of Donor-Doped Al2O3."...
"While living in the United States, Morsi became a lecturer at the California State University, Northridge, and was Assistant Professor from 1982 to 1985. Morsi, an expert on precision metal surfaces, also worked for NASA in the early 1980s, helping to develop Space Shuttle engines.[33][34]
In 1985, Morsi quit his job at CSUN and returned to Egypt, becoming a professor at Zagazig University, where he was appointed head of the engineering department. Morsi was a lecturer at Zagazig University's engineering department until 2010."...
"Morsi was first elected to parliament in 2000.[35] He served as a Member of Parliament from 2000 to 2005, officially as an independent candidate because the Brotherhood was technically barred from running candidates for office under Mubarak.[36] He was a member of the Guidance Office of the Muslim Brotherhood until the founding of the Freedom and Justice Party in 2011, at which point he was elected by the MB's Guidance Office to be the first president of the new party."...
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posted on
03/04/2014 7:49:58 AM PST
by
PieterCasparzen
(We have to fix things ourselves)
To: PieterCasparzen
One of Obama’s favorite operatives.
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posted on
03/04/2014 7:53:19 AM PST
by
Olog-hai
To: Colonel Kangaroo
No doubt Russia has assets in the area and has legitimate reasons for trying to protect them.
As concerned as we are, we have as much right to get involved over there as Russia would have if all-a-sudden there was a civil war in Mexico or Canada.
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posted on
03/04/2014 7:58:49 AM PST
by
djf
(OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
To: Timber Rattler; All
If we renege on our agreement with the Ukraine, then we should at least replace their 5000 nukes.
(Illustrating absurdity by being absurd.)
I believe this is the most myopic thread I have ever seen on FR. There are MANY effective things we can do without attacking Russia directly. But, whether or not Russia controls Crimea is just the little stuff — Russia pretty much did, in fact, if not in name, anyway. The repercussions of the US reneging on a major security assurance of this nature are something else: It pretty much guarantees a sizeable nuclear war (dozens to hundreds of warheads used, IF it is limited to that) somewhere down the line. Not necessarily in this region, though...
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posted on
03/04/2014 11:09:00 AM PST
by
Paul R.
(Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
To: djf
"Straw man argument" alert:
As concerned as we are, we have as much right to get involved over there as Russia would have if all-a-sudden there was a civil war in Mexico or Canada.
Russia did not coerce Mexico or Canada into giving up 5000 nukes and promise protection in return.
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posted on
03/04/2014 11:17:51 AM PST
by
Paul R.
(Leftists desire to control everything; In the end they invariably control nothing worth a damn.)
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