Skip to comments.Dennis Kucinich Blames US Meddling for Russian Invasion
Posted on 03/04/2014 6:44:29 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
Russia's invasion of Ukraine was spurred by American behind-the-scenes actions, says former Ohio Congressman and Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich.
Fox News host Bill O'Reilly on Tuesday accused Kucinich of being a pacifist because of his opposition to the Iraq War, but Kucinich countered he believed that war was wrong, but not all U.S. military action is so.
O'Reilly then asked how Kucinich would have handled the Ukraine crisis had he been elected president.
"What I'd do is not have USAID and the National Endowment for Democracy working with U.S. taxpayers' money to knock off an elected government in Ukraine, which is what they did," Kucinich answered. "I wouldn't try to force the people of Ukraine into a deal with NATO against their interest or into a deal with the European Union, which is against their economic interest."
"So it's the USA's fault that Putin rolled in? We made them do it?" O'Reilly asked.
"Bill O'Reilly, if you don't believe in cause and effect I don't know what I can do for you," Kucinich responded.
Kucinich said the United States has been involved covertly and behind the scenes with the CIA and two government foreign aid groups, the National Endowment for Democracy and the United States Agency for International Development (USAID) to "stir up trouble in Ukraine."
He didn't specify what the groups had done, but said the National Endowment for Democracy had sponsored 65 programs. He said the United States should stay out of Ukraine's affairs and let their people decide their future without outside interference.
As a result, "you've got neo-Nazis that are in control," Kucinich said.
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Did he beat Ron Paul to the punch?
Haven’t heard from him in a while ... guess he got a new tin foil hat, so he is back.
I agree with him
I would appear it’s Putin’s hand up Kuchi’s butt
not Obama or maybe it’s some kind of circular
I’ve often said that Ronpaul had gone so far to the Right, he was going to eventually met up with Kucinich going to his Left
Since he has no job skills and since no one will hire him, he has to open his wee little mouth every so often and remind us that he exists.
he isn’t totally wrong. the west , including europe and the US, tried to peel Ukraine from the Russian orbit with incentives. Putin said no. thats pretty much where it stands.
I saw the O'Reilly-Kucinich discussion, and like you, I think Kucinich made the better argument.
Here's the way I see it. The Soviet Union meddled in America's back yard (Cuba), so Kennedy took action.
Now it's America that's meddling in Russia's back yard, so Putin took action. The question now becomes this. Is Putin acting to defend Russia, or to expand Russia? I think (and hope0 it's the former, but time will tell.
Yes, and that's a problem. What we know about is EU activity, not CIA or any NGO. Not that I'd put it past them, but if Dennis knows anything he's going to have to say it, not hint.
I thought he was going out to Washington state to become a senator or something? I wish he would, Ohio could do without him ... for sure. Between him and Boehner, we have reason to be embarrassed here in OH about our political representation.
He DID go out to Washington and they turned their nose up at the worthless unemployable non-skilled jackass. I hope he stays the hell out of Ohio.
I hate it when I agree with Dennis Kucinich.
Kucinich is an Honored Elder in the Blame America First Club. If an asteroid struck Mars, he would blame America for it.
‘Dennis Kucinich Blames US Meddling for Russian Invasion’
If he’d said “incompetence” he’d have been right.
Wow, two idiots’ conversation preserved for posterity. What a media.
Ted Baxter should just have Denny the K’s wife on.....
Now it's America that's meddling in Russia's back yard, so Putin took action.
The Soviet missiles that were put in Cuba were a direct threat to the United States. What threat is there against Russia in Ukraine?
Well, you’ll fit in nicely with the rest of the blame-America-first crowd here. Kucinich/Paul 2016 - Let’s give the world away.
I’ll agree with you that Kennedy tried to invade Cuba, in a fashion. But the US did not occupy Cuba. The Russians pay more attention to the “occupy” thing.
Similar tactics were used by the Democrats against Scott Walker in Wisconsin.
The US State Dept. admits spending roughly $5 Billion on this type of direct meddling in Ukraine's internal affairs.
The CIA's involvement is murkier and may involve setting up camps in Poland and Lithuania for the purpose of vetting and training some of the protesters involved in the Maidan movement.
You need to think like a Russian. If you were Russian, you would have studied Napoleon's invasion, and you would have older relatives who personally experienced Hitler's invasion.
For self-defense, you would want the Ukraine in Russia's orbit. Just as the USA wants Canada in the USA's orbit.
I'm not saying that Putin is correct, or that the Russian mind-set is correct. I'm not defending either one. But to understand Russian politics, you need to think like a Russian.
bamster already did along with the slim majority of Americans who voted for him who I will never forgive
Only because the American proxies were defeated at the Bay of Pigs. The US had every intention of "occupying" Cuba. The occupying force was to be American proxies, and not the actual American army.
Don't get me wrong. I wish the Bay of Pigs had turned out differently. The people of Cuba would have been so much better off had Castro been defeated.
Russia did not send proxies. Russia is occupying. Get it?
Dennis Who? He is still around?
Virtually unnoticed by the cameras at the event, I spotted Dennis and his wife, Elizabeth, milling around in the midst of the red-carpet mob at the Oscars the other night.
She is a lovely lady, towering over her husband by about 10 feet. Despite her taste in husbands, I did like her taste in gowns....and I especially loved her reply when she was asked by a mediacrat "what are you wearing?"......instead of the usual "Armani" or whatever, she answered "No idea....clothes".
I do not see where there is any difference. Regular troops, proxy forces, paid mercenaries, whatever. Old regime is gone. New (puppet) regime is in place. That's what Kennedy wanted for Cuba. And that's what Putin actually got for the Crimea.
The USSR's meddling in Cuba consisted of placing nuclear-tipped missiles there aimed at the United States. Hardly equivalent to any US "meddling" in Ukraine.
And therein lies your problem.
You're absolutely correct about that! No argument from me. But what matters is not how you or I see the situation. What matters is how the Russians see it.
We need to be aware of reality, certainly. But we must also be aware of the Russians' version of reality.
The only good thing I can say about Kucinich, is that he has a good looking wife. He can certainly be B. S. Crazy.
Oh, lovely. I don't think I have to repeat how I feel about State under Hillary and Johneffin'. More later and a BTT.
FOLLOW THE MONEY! National Endowment for Democracy has long been known as a CIA front organization. Guess who else funds with NED... Soros! So do ya think this was a slick little Obama/Soros operation to stick it to Putin while the Olympics were going on and he had to play nicey nice. A little pay back for Syria? Then Putin says I’ll be damned if I lose my bases in Crimea. Are we that stupid to think Putin would just walk away from Crimea? Then all we are left with from our brilliant “one move” strategy is to do the big indignant act. So the score is now: Obama zero Putin two.
Ya Dennis explain this
Putin’s invasion. Within scarcely a week after deposing the crook. Well orchestrated effort.Invaders fully briefed wearing camoflaged unmarked uniforms units .Russian government media has opponents portrayed as Nazis miss interpreting gold armbands with a cyrillic letter S (svoboda) (freedom) claiming the english viewers they are swastikas.Camp followers here defending Putin actions. Heavy armored unit suddenly assembled and off loaded by ferry . Totally preplanned.
Move comes as a surprize ? (sarc)
I agree too. Yanukovich was democratically elected, and his police faced daily incineration from Molotov cocktails and incitement from armed neo-Nazi protesters.
I do too. I have no doubt that the CIA is fomenting this crap throughout the world. The problem is that the CIA is great at stirring stuff up, but incompetent in dealing with the aftermath.
It's also incompetent in picking its targets.
No, Kucinich is telling he truth about what really happened.
This in Ukraine was another screw up Obama style like the screw up in Egypt.
This has been a pattern.
That is exactly how the guy I was listening to yesterday described what has happened.
Well, who doesn’t know that supporting 65 pro-democracy and economic development agencies is morally equivalent to ...NO, morally inferior to ordering the killing of 100+ civilians, landing 20,000 unmarked troops and seizing airports, ports and public buildings? Of course it’s all America’s fault!
Psst, the Ukrainains’ rejection of Yukun-whatver(SP) was due to him reneging on an agreement to sign an EU treaty and instead signing one with Russia; jailing his political opponent, the former PM; and ordering the shootings of political protestors. But it’s our ‘meddling’ that got them worked up? Get over yourself.
He knows a little about geopolitics. He said this is exactly what has happened in Ukraine.
He may be right. Just who or what is the US anymore?
Is there any doubt that the US is behind all of these "peaceful protests" that have toppled governments and left nothing but the destruction of civilization in their place? The only question is who stands to benefit from all of this.
Dennis Kucinich is far left, for sure. The ptb also dismiss the far right. In most ways the far left and the far right are closer to each other than they are to the muck in the middle, both parties.
Do I support Dennis Kucinich? You bet I do. When I encountered something that was an absolute need for veterans, he was on it and got it done. He was even on the phone from the floor of the HOR to me while this initiative was being passed.
And something else. Kucinich's district was dismantled with Republicans in charge of redistricting. It was split between mostly Akron and Toledo. It was a district that the 'pubs could've had when Kucinich stepped down. He was the only one who fought for jobs for Cleveland. Doesn't it tell you something that both dems and 'pubs are still in the game of destroying a decent man?
End of rant. Except for one PS: a lot of what saved Cleveland from being Newark or Detroit is stuff he put in place as mayor and in the HOR.
The ability of the “intervene in everything” to mindlessly regurgitate the talking points fed to them by the neocons is a marvel to watch.
Ron Paul liked him and he was against the invasion of Iraq.
No further argument is needed for a wide swathe of freepers.
I know there were tensions over the EU agreement and Putin trying to lure them into some Asian economic set up. But I believe we set up the current crisis. And I am not the only one.
There have been news stories about the west funding the thing.
Putin hasn't invaded anyone. You'll know it if or when he does.