Feds Set Aside Habitat In Southwest For Jaguar [ Arizona and New Mexico ]

AP ^ | March 05, 2014 | Alexandra Olgin

[george76]

Federal wildlife officials are setting aside nearly 1,200 square miles in the American Southwest as critical habitat for the jaguar... Pima, Santa Cruz and Cochise counties in Arizona and Hidalgo County in New Mexico

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The critical designation means anyone developing federal land in the area needs to consult the service to ensure it will not hurt the jaguar’s habitat

[madison10]

Since when do killers need protection? Oh, wait...

[Amendment10]

... Ranchers herd cattle; sheep herders ... ; oil and gas production; timber and mining; ...

Thank you for that info george76.

Since some of the land sill seems to be private property (corrections welcome) that would eliminate both the 5th Amendment and the Constitution's Clause 17 of Section 8 of Article I. So I don't see what constitutional basis the feds have for regulating anything on at least part of this land.

[TigersEye]

[montag813]

What about the "habitat" that Obama has "set aside" for the Mexican drug cartels...

[Boogieman]

Jaguars are indigenous to that area, so they’re not exotic.

[TigersEye]

Conservationists Propose 50-million-plus Acres as Jaguar Critical Habitat March 16, 2010

[Ditter]

Mexico and all the border states already have mountain lions. They are native to that area.

[george76]

Also water rights : the eco-terrorist have blocked the town of Tombstone, AZ from re-installing their main water supply after a fire.

The towns like Bisbee, Sierra Vista, Tucson, Phoenix ... AZ plus Silver City, Lordsburg, and .. NM also need their water that crosses public lands to exist.

The feds have often been trying to block cities as well as farmers & ranchers from using their water rights.

[21twelve]

Thanks for the map. I’m guessing that once it is turned into a special habitat it will be tough to build things there. Like a fence and stuff.

[little jeremiah]

Are the jaguars bigger than regular mountain lions such as the ones in the western part of the country?

[george76]

OK for the illegals and drug runners [ who may vote Dem ] to trash our public lands - while the feds deny the border patrol and the American public access to border lands on public property.

[xone]

All the cats are from the Family Felidae

Genus makes all the difference. While mountain lions in the 'boot heel' of New Mexico can get big, 190#, they are still in a the same Genus.

Mountain lions Genus Puma

Jaguar Genus Panthera (same as tigers, lions, leopards)

Cougs is Cougs, Jaguar is a whole nother animal, in size and style.

[CivilWarBrewing]

Jaguars, my butt.. How long before 'FEMA'/internment camps pop up on this property? Watch for large, unmarked buildings and lots of barbed wire.

Or perhaps the gubmint is setting up shop to closely monitor Arizona for when the SHTF. Lots of guns and lax gun laws there.

[xone]

See @ 32

[george76]

The drug cartels running illegals and drugs have spotters in the mountains to watch the border patrols.

The border patrol does not have as easy access ?

[Theoria]

Jaguar are the largest Cat in the Americas.

[little jeremiah]

Thank you, I did not know that. I live in mountain lion country and they are all around here, so I was wondering. Now I’ll search for some jaguar photos.

[little jeremiah]

Thanks, I knew people here would know.

I’m glad jaguars aren’t around here, then.

[hinckley buzzard]

Major chunks of that land are already protected wilderness or national forest, or Indian reservation.

[Octar]

How about shooting all the jaguars. Nothing left to protect the feds go away, right? No, the feds will never go away. Where I live we had wonderful trout streams. The experts decided that beavers lived here 150 years ago, they should be here now. And they are. and all the trout streams are ruined. The beavers chew off young trees leaving pointed stobs which puncture the tires of any farmer who tries to work the soil. But the experts, who know nothing , think it would be a good thing if the country was restored to the way it was before we got here.