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To: Ken H

“You tube of Putin making the remarks. Any Russian speakers here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMuYucxqiJg";
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Here’s what was said by Putin at the video link:

“Listen to me. Listen to me attentively. I want you to understand me unambiguously. If we take such a decision, only for the defense of Ukrainian citizens, and someone tries, one of these servicemen, they are shooting at their own people, for whom we’ll be standing, not (x1 moving?). Let them try to shoot women and children. I shall look for anyone making such an order in the Ukraine.”

Some notes:

1. I’m a Russian speaker of 30+ years, 25 of that as a military interpreter, some in treaty work, some with SOCOM... I think I can hold my own against any Russian or American interpreter any day (as long as it’s consecutive interpreting and not simultaneous!).

As an American patriot, I have no love for Putin. He and Russia are a very real danger to the United States. For more background on Putin, check this out:

The Putin System
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Rkom1RpKA

2. Putin was very angry at the reporter who had just asked him a question ending, “...in America that...”, when he cuts her off. So, he doesn’t speak fluidly in the clip. He’s very hot under the collar.

3. I find it interesting that both Mr. Levin at BizPac Review and the translators at Russia Today mistranslate what was actually said. They obviously both have an agenda or have never received US military-grade translation and transcription skills...

4. My two cents on the Ukraine situation:

Could it be the start of WW3?
Could be, but I highly doubt it.

Was Russia being a giant ass by invading Ukraine?
Sure, but they did just occupy Russian-speaking Crimea, which had been part of Russia for hundreds of years before the Soviet Union broke up. So, even though I don’t like it, there is some history there that they (NOT ME, flamers), THEY could use in justifying their actions.

Keep in mind the Russian Black Sea Fleet is based in the Crimea. So, I tend to think they’ll stop there and not invade all of eastern Ukraine. But I could be wrong...

And just so everyone can lighten up a little, here’s a gem of a website by a guy who escaped the Soviet Union back in the day:

http://thepeoplescube.com/

Thanks for that YouTube link!

Cheers from Virginia!

- Ivan


56 posted on 03/07/2014 5:47:42 AM PST by IvanV ("A tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." - CS Lewis)
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To: IvanV
Here’s what was said by Putin at the video link: “Listen to me. Listen to me attentively. I want you to understand me unambiguously. If we take such a decision, only for the defense of Ukrainian citizens, and someone tries, one of these servicemen, they are shooting at their own people, for whom we’ll be standing, not (x1 moving?). Let them try to shoot women and children. I shall look for anyone making such an order in the Ukraine.”

I do not doubt your translation, but somehow I doubt that Ukrainian women and children would spontaneously and voluntarily choose to stand in front of Russian troops. Maybe some women would, but a society which would allow children to act as shields has gone off the deep end into total depravity (and yes, I know that Palestinians routinely do so, and that shows my point).

That Putin would be confident that there would be women and children in front of his troops is an indication that he has given orders to that effect.

58 posted on 03/07/2014 7:04:01 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: IvanV; Ken H; DesertRhino; F15Eagle; ScaniaBoy; Justa; ResisTyr; Corporate Democrat; ...

FYI, I posted a correct translation of that Putin quote you might find interesting.

Putin threatens to use Ukrainian women, children, as human shields:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3130559/posts


59 posted on 03/07/2014 7:11:05 AM PST by IvanV ("A tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive." - CS Lewis)
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To: IvanV

Thanks for the translation assist. FR has taught me to be skeptical of what I read and your post is a great example of why.


62 posted on 03/07/2014 7:56:13 AM PST by Pan_Yan (Who told you that you were naked? Genesis 3:11)
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To: IvanV

Thank you for a very informative post!


74 posted on 03/07/2014 9:50:00 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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