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Russia reportedly seizes a Ukrainian military base, begins air drills in Crimea
FOX News ^ | March 7, 2014

Posted on 03/07/2014 1:37:34 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Russia raised the stakes in its conflict with Crimea Friday, reportedly seizing a Ukrainian military base on the peninsula and beginning large-scale air defense drills.

Witnesses say Russian troops broke through the gate of a missile defense base with a military vehicle, trying to break into a command post, but no shots were fired, Interfax Ukraine reported Friday.

Initial Reuters reports said the truck had pushed through the gates of a post in the city of Sevastopol, but there were no signs of damage. There was conflicting information about the circumstances of the raid.

A Ukrainian military official, Vladislav Seleznyov, told Reuters the armed men took over the base without any shooting and no one appeared hurt. Another Ukrainian official told Reuters at the post that he was now mediating between Ukrainian forces and the armed group inside.

About 100 Ukrainian troops are stationed at the base in Sevastopol, Interfax reported, citing a duty officer and Ukraine's defense ministry. About 20 "attackers" threw stun grenades, the report said.

The Ukrainians barricaded themselves inside one of their barracks, and their commander began negotiations, Interfax said.

Earlier Friday, there were reports Russia had begun large-scale air defense drills as tensions remained high over the fate of Crimea.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: obama; putin; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko

1 posted on 03/07/2014 1:37:35 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Its like they were waiting for Obama’s vacay to start to see if he would stick with it or “handle” from there.

Putin is playing with him.


2 posted on 03/07/2014 1:39:13 PM PST by MNlurker
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To: Jim Robinson

What’s that hitting the fan??

Geez, I hope nobody disturbs Obama’s vacation. You know, he’s put in a tough two weeks since his last vacation!


3 posted on 03/07/2014 1:41:16 PM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Pray for the people of Ukraine, and the people of Poland, and of Latvia, etc.

The sleeping giant Reagan had shut up in the wastes of Russia, was allowed to re-awake by the Bushes and Clinton and now is running amok with a mere adolescent in the White House.


4 posted on 03/07/2014 1:41:17 PM PST by ZULU (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Jim Robinson
How can we make him thtop?


5 posted on 03/07/2014 1:43:08 PM PST by laweeks
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To: Obadiah

And now both our POTUS and VP are on vacation right now?

This is comforting...


6 posted on 03/07/2014 1:43:29 PM PST by MNlurker
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To: Jim Robinson

russia is putin down


7 posted on 03/07/2014 1:51:16 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Jim Robinson
Too bad we don't have a real President.
8 posted on 03/07/2014 1:52:18 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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To: Jim Robinson
The Ukrainians barricaded themselves inside one of their barracks, and their commander began negotiations, Interfax said.

I get the impression the Ukrainians are so divided on issues and sovereignty, that the Russians won't have any trouble pushing them around. - Tom

9 posted on 03/07/2014 1:52:21 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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To: ZULU

The Russians should have been dealt with at the end of WWII. Patton was right. Will we ever again elect another leader who knows how to deal with murdering commie scum?


10 posted on 03/07/2014 1:53:25 PM PST by Red White and Blue patriot (USA all the way. Love it or Leave it. Better dead than Red. Putin = Hitler 2014)
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To: MNlurker
And now both our POTUS and VP are on vacation right now?

I'm sure Valerie's available.
11 posted on 03/07/2014 1:54:01 PM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Ukraine Live Thread
12 posted on 03/07/2014 1:56:43 PM PST by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: Capt. Tom
"I get the impression the Ukrainians are so divided on issues and sovereignty, that the Russians won't have any trouble pushing them around. - Tom"

It's Ukrainians vs russians. Remember there are russians living in Ukraine. They want their say also. Thus the conflict. This is what America will be like when Amnesty passes.

13 posted on 03/07/2014 1:59:31 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Jim Robinson
"Sevastopol was founded as a city and port by Catherine II on the site of the Tatar village of Akhtiar after the Russian annexation (1783) of the Crimea. It was strongly fortified and became (1804) the chief base of the Russian Black Sea fleet. In the Crimean War Sevastopol resisted the besieging British, French, Turks, and Sardinians for 349 days (1854–55). The hero of the land defense was Gen. E. I. Totleben; the Russian fleet was sunk by the Russians themselves to block the entrance to the harbor.

In Sept., 1855, the French successfully stormed the fortress of Malakhov, on the south shore of the bay, and three days later the Russians were forced to abandon Sevastopol. A record of the spirit and sufferings of the city's defenders has been preserved in The Tales of Sevastopol by Tolstoy, who fought in the ranks of the besieged. Sevastopol declined as a military fortress after the Crimean Peace Conference (1856), and its fortifications were razed. After 1871, however, they were rebuilt, and in 1890 the city again became a chief naval base. The Sevastopol sailors mutinied during the 1905 revolution. In the Russian civil war Sevastopol was the headquarters of Gen. P. N. Wrangel during the last stand of the Whites (1920).

The heroic resistance of Sevastopol in 1854–55 was, if possible, eclipsed by the stand the city made against the Germans in World War II. During a siege lasting more than eight months, the city was virtually destroyed. For three weeks the defenders fought on in the rubble, against all hope, until July 3, 1942, when German and Romanian troops at last took the city. After its recapture (May, 1944) by the Russians reconstruction began. As a reward for its valiant resistance, Sevastopol was named a "hero city" of the Soviet Union. The city was transferred to the Ukrainian SSR in 1954 (as was all Crimea) and became part of the independent Ukraine in 1991. It is the home of the former Soviet Black Sea fleet. A 1995 agreement called for four fifths of the fleet to fall under Russian control. In 1997 it was agreed that Russia would be allowed to base its fleet at Sevastopol for 20 years; a 25-year extension, to 2042, was signed in 2010.

Read more: Sevastopol: History | Infoplease.com http://www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/world/sevastopol-history.html#ixzz2vJhcqob1

14 posted on 03/07/2014 2:02:15 PM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: MNlurker

And now both our POTUS and VP are on vacation right now?

************

Just imagine if Bush and Cheney had gone on vacation during an international crisis. The media would have gone nuts.


15 posted on 03/07/2014 2:02:50 PM PST by Starboard
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To: MNlurker

> And now both our POTUS and VP are on vacation right now?

This is comforting...

Meanwhile the rest of the American peasants that are suffering under King 0’s rule can’t even consider taking a vacation with their pay and hours cut (if they even still have a job) while the cost of everything has spiralled upward out of control because of his horrid economic policies, he fallout of which his devoted prostitute press is hiding from them.


16 posted on 03/07/2014 2:08:12 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t know they are Russians?..
If there is no arm band are flag then shoot them down, they are nothing but outlaws looking to die..
Gutless Russians for not wear insignias and gutless Ukrainians for not firing a shot.


17 posted on 03/07/2014 2:08:22 PM PST by riverss
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To: Starboard

It would have been a scandal that wouldn’t go away until someone was in jail. Remember when Bush finished reading to the kids after he was told about the attacks on 9.11.01?


18 posted on 03/07/2014 2:19:01 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod

Isn’t bozo talking to some kids now? something about financial aid?

Because everyone who is supposed to take care of this Country is on vacation right now, I’d say all that is happening right now has been planned. putin is advancing right on schedule.


19 posted on 03/07/2014 2:24:09 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Red White and Blue patriot
The Russians should've been dealt with at the end of WW2

Uhhhhh.....they were on our side.

20 posted on 03/07/2014 2:24:50 PM PST by grania
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To: Jim Robinson

Ukraine has always existed as a buffer between Russia and the West. When it wasn’t actually part of Russia or Poland. It’s borders have changed so many times I couldn’t afford to buy a map with every different configuration. Crimea is more Russian than anything and Kiev is the original city of the Rus. I say let the Ukrainians and the Russians sort this out for themselves. If the EU wants to get involved that’s their business. Leave us out. If we got involved with the current regime in charge it will end in disaster. A disaster of unimaginable proportions is possible.


21 posted on 03/07/2014 2:25:56 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: Red White and Blue patriot

Do you have any idea of the SIZE of the Red Army circa 1945? 75 - 80 percent of the entire Wehrmacht was facing the Soviets and it still wasn’t enough. The remaining forces were defending against the US, Britain, Canada & Free French forces.

By December 1944 all the western allies were low on infantry.


22 posted on 03/07/2014 2:25:59 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: grania

Ever heard of George Patton?


23 posted on 03/07/2014 2:26:41 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
It's Ukrainians vs russians. Remember there are russians living in Ukraine. They want their say also. Thus the conflict. This is what America will be like when Amnesty passes.

I know what you mean.
We could be in a position 20- 50 years from now with a demographic change that results in one or more of our Mexican border states wanting to become independent, or return to Mexican domination.- tom

24 posted on 03/07/2014 2:26:55 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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To: grania

They were of use in destroying Nazi Germany, but were never on our side. They should have been fought and defeated before they ever obtained nuclear weapons.


25 posted on 03/07/2014 2:27:26 PM PST by Red White and Blue patriot (USA all the way. Love it or Leave it. Better dead than Red. Putin = Hitler 2014)
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To: pgkdan
"The difficulty in understanding the Russian is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European, but an Asiatic, and therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinaman or a Japanese, and from what I have seen of them, I have no particular desire to understand them, except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other Asiatic characteristics, the Russian have no regard for human life and is an all out son of a bitch, barbarian, and chronic drunk."

~ General George Patton (August 1945)

26 posted on 03/07/2014 2:31:32 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
""The difficulty in understanding the Russian is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European, but an Asiatic"

Patton was not very versed in geography. The European part of Russia goes up to the Ural mountains.

BTW, V.Putin is native from St.Petersburg, 100% European Russian. He has absolutely nothing of an "Asiatic".

27 posted on 03/07/2014 2:55:31 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: Marguerite

I understand.


28 posted on 03/07/2014 2:56:46 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

We would all be better off if he just went on vacation and stayed gone. When he’s at work he’s just thinking of ways to get revenge on America.


29 posted on 03/07/2014 2:59:01 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: jpsb

The containment of Crimea was left largely to the Romanians, who, like at Odessa, didn’t have the artillery or the airpower to overcome the Russian defenses being resupplied nightly over Kerch.

The Soviets concentrated airpower there, and used it to strike into the flanks of the German advance toward the East, and at the Romanian oilfields.

Hitler put Manstein in charge of taking Crimea, but the first offensive couldn’t take Sevastopol due to the huge Naval gun emplacements (305mm/12 inch) wrecking his supply lines, and a lack of artillery and aircraft. The Russians even had local air superiority for a while.

It wasn’t until the Germans could run the Russians out of Kerch, cutting the main supply route, bring up heavy rail guns, and the huge WW1 mortars, that they were able to reduce the fortifications enough for an assault.


30 posted on 03/07/2014 3:27:54 PM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: Marguerite

“Patton was not very versed in geography.”

He wasn’t talking about geography...


31 posted on 03/07/2014 4:11:16 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

The whole quote proves an abysmal ignorance, stereotyping stupidity.

Patton was a good soldier, as for the rest ... forget it.


32 posted on 03/07/2014 4:17:04 PM PST by Marguerite (When I'm good, I'm very good, but when I'm bad, I'm even better)
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To: riverss
Gutless Russians for not wear insignias and gutless Ukrainians for not firing a shot.

That's exactly what Putin wants. Firing on those supposed "native Crimean self defense forces that have nothing to do with Russia at all, really!" will give the Russians the evidence they'll play to show they're just there to protect people when they come in hard. It's a provocation and the Ukrainians aren't biting. Meanwhile, pressure builds on Putin because everyone can see he's lying about these troops, trashing that image as a democratic leader he tries so hard to project.

33 posted on 03/07/2014 4:34:02 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: MNlurker

“And now both our POTUS and VP are on vacation right now?”

Maybe that’s why the imposters media are so upset about the new Cadillac commercial, hitting a little too close to the white hut?


34 posted on 03/07/2014 4:40:09 PM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: Jim Robinson

No surprise, the West is weak and the Russian bear is smelling blood.


35 posted on 03/07/2014 5:00:11 PM PST by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: Jim Robinson

Take back the color blue.
Blue Spring
Free Washington
Free Cuba
FUN (F* the UN)


36 posted on 03/07/2014 5:10:04 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE!)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; All

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Russia reportedly seizes a Ukrainian military base, begins air drills in Crimea, Bubba Ho-Tep wrote:
Gutless Russians for not wear insignias and gutless Ukrainians for not firing a shot.

Some western agency should snatch a couple of these guys and find out if they belong to a regular Russian unit not some Crimean milita as Putin claims. Turn them over to the Ukrainians and then call for a UN meet and scream invasion.


37 posted on 03/07/2014 6:05:00 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Red White and Blue patriot

The Russians should have been dealt with at the end of WWI


38 posted on 03/07/2014 6:32:38 PM PST by Bobalu (Happiness is a fast ISR)
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To: Jim Robinson
Vladislav Seleznyov, told Reuters the armed men took over the base without any shooting and no one appeared hurt.

No surprises there - project power and the willingness to use it and the other side is less likely to resist in a meaningful way. You can bet that Russian troops won't have the same crippling ROE put upon our troops.

39 posted on 03/08/2014 2:33:20 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Not to worry, Obama is planning his next vacation.


40 posted on 03/08/2014 9:32:54 AM PST by matt04
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