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To: A Navy Vet; SAMWolf

Wrong size warhead and damage effect.
The mortars were placed in preregistered spots allowing predialed data to be fired on thus allowing a pretty reasonable mathematical chance of a hit.
I was towed artillery, some of the info and usage is similar between light towed and mortar disciplines.
You can mathematically compute distance to target, amount of powder, and warhead weight to generate a rough and tumble idea of where it will go.
There are computational tables used to make this even easier.
I think I saw one online not too long ago.
If any mortarmen are around, they may be able to elaborate on the actual mortar side of things.


9 posted on 03/08/2014 9:58:15 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Darksheare
"Wrong size warhead and damage effect."

Thanks. Like I said above, I didn't read the exact determination of the weapons they used, if it has ever been proven. I only followed the outcome and political a**-covering in the hearings.

BTW, what's the difference between a Javelin and a MANPAD? Aren't both guided?

13 posted on 03/08/2014 10:11:07 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever!)
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To: Darksheare

a. Mortar on technical
b spotter on the roof
c. One long
d. one short
e. on target


14 posted on 03/08/2014 10:15:15 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Darksheare

In Vietnam, one mortar round blew up the massive US ammo storage area at Long Binh. Everyone saw the explosion on television at that time.

The secret behind a one-shot direct hit is that the architectual planner of the ammo buildings was a North Vietnamese/VC officer who built in somekind of weak spot on the roof.

As I was told while in VN, the VC/NVA would sit and case a base for weeks or months before hitting it, as they did to Firebase Oasis (Oct. 20, 1970), the day I arrived in SVN.

Benghazi was “injun territory” so the jihadists knew the area like the back of there hand.

Looks like Petraeus did “betray us”, just at a later time. How low the mighty have fallen.

Time to recall him and Morell and grill the shit out of them. Finding the general in contempt of congress would totally destroy his image. As for the CIA guy, don’t know him but don’t trust him. Don’t trust anyone in the upper echelons of the CIA today. In the old days, I would.

That is the shame of the Obama regime and even the Clinton administrations. People you once could trust with your life are now covering up for inexcusable errors and decisions (Manat, OP Keating, etc).

A lot of my friends were “spooks” from the OSS to CIA to Police Intelligence. Today, I wouldn’t know who to trust.

How low America has been brought down in just a few years.


51 posted on 03/08/2014 9:29:42 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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