Posted on 03/08/2014 11:22:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
I have. Large facilities where the bird is king, because 'if the birds aren't happy, no one is happy'. All farm efforts were and are directed towards that end.
The birds were clean, well fed, health, and content. The only way an owner can make money.
You also raise a second issue, the desire of CA voters to impose their Luddite beliefs as they relate to poultry production onto the rest of the country.
As with the homosexuals, CA voters aren't content to live and let live, they are determined to force their Luddite production beliefs on everyone else.
It is a sad day when people who know nothing about [insert liberal cause here] start demanding you [do it] their way or else!
With minor modifications, you have expressed a universal truth about “liberals” (or whatever they’re calling themselves this week).
A wise statement. *props*
I spent my early years working in a chicken and turkey hatchery. I’ve seen it all, and the tall tales that the animal rights groups comes up with is appalling.
I still raise a few chickens, and my neighbors raises turkeys. What you said about turkeys being stupid is true!
I can’t believe it took over 100 posts on FR for someone to finally point that out.
Through my youth, I worked will most kinds of farm animals. Chickens are by far the dumbest.
Would like to see what the reaction would be for some to see how male piglets are cut or how bulls become steers. Would that treatment also be considered turture by some posters?
I want to point out a small detail. From my earlier post it may seem that I still am in animal production.
I am not. I sold out more than 25 years ago, shortly before the Luddites got a foothold.
“...at the end of the day, they are all going to die.”
And so are we! So does that mean that we need to go out of our way to abuse another living thing? My bet is that “ranchers” have done university studies to try and figure out the lowest cost way to raise chickens, which most likely includes just how many they can cram into a coop and still get optimum output. That doesn’t make what they do ethical. Ever been to a Greyhound race? Know what they do to the dogs when they won’t run anymore? Think that that kind of treatment, just to make a buck is o.k.? I don’t! Same goes for chickens and calves raised for Veal. You can eat it if you want to, but we don’t.
I mean UC Davis has a program to develop square tomatoes so that more of them will fit in a box. It’s always about a buck, it’s seldom about product quality.
***we don’t eat Veal anymore either.***
What do you think the “Fatted Calf” was? You pen up a calf and feed it milk, lots of milk. It gets fat and is then slaughtered for veal.
Luke 15:23
King James Version (KJV)
23 And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry:
I believe the author is in error about that, which I must admit is an extremely rare moment. This is Daniel Greenfield, one of the most brilliant writers out there today.
The hypothetical MO farmer is not compelled to only sell his eggs to people in CA. That said, some speaking up needs to be done because past experience teaches us that when California discovers they've done something to damage their market competitiveness, they go to the Federal government to enforce their rules nationwide. Basic rule about liberalism: If the solution doesn't solve the problem, metastasize the solution until the new problems are greater than the original one.
Well spoken and TRUE!
We have a few in the church who raise their own and at least one who has enough hens that he supplies eggs for many families in the church. They seem to prefer the farm raised, chicken yard eggs, and the truth be told his prices are just slightly above the grocery.
So, following that grand capitalist theory of “never regulate what folks can make on their own”, I suspect a lot lot lot of people will just start growing their own. Sounds like a good time to invest in the little chicks.
They’ll then have to pass ordinances banning chickens except in places they approve. By then, though, the commercial flock will be considerable smaller, and that will cause the price to explode, and that will then violate that capitalist dictum, “don’t expect high prices for easily obtained items to lower demand or entrepreneurial spirit.”
They’ll have people raising chickens in their basements. That will lead to “Chicken Police” and a “War Against Eggs”.
ATF will become ATFE.
Then Chicken Cartels will rule Mexico, and Chicken Shit will rule Washington.
And eventually everyone will finally realize that this is really, really stupid.
That charge was refuted and beat down in post #121.
There was much to learn about the life of poultry from that post.
You haven’t been listening to the other posters very well, have you? You seem to think that, absent your control, Ranchers would be as cruel as possible to their animals. Do you feel that way about other human endeavors as well? People won’t do the right thing unless they are forced?
This thread has been a typical ‘food production by Luddites’ thread; full of lies in the beginning, the truth speakers a little slow to respond at first.
Then, like a few drops of bleach in a pitcher of bacterial infested water, the fight is joined. Eventually truth prevails, and the bacteria cheering section retreats.
We are at, or near, the truth, and the end.
I think we have a closet liberal here, BE. It’s been explained numerous time, in a number of ways, the most profit in raising chickens is obtained by being kind and generous to the livestock. Yet he continues to insist that Ranchers, left to their own devices, would be cruel because, well, they’re Capitalists. They calculate how small they can make chicken cages so they can cram as many as possible into a storage locker.
I wonder if he would ever get the hidden message in “A Christmas Carol?”
This is why us old gray-hairs are so important. You’ve distilled the dynamic generated by 150 posts to a thread.
You may be right.
As most of us have experienced though life’s encounters, truth is often foreign to those who deal in lies.
Thanks for that info. I had no idea why they quit making gas cans that actually work. I was at a farm auction a few months ago. I bought several old gas cans just so I would have a supply.
Yes, speaking for myself, it took some of us awhile to gain our wisdom.
I'm always envious and heartened by the wisdom shown by many the younger crowd. There are still a lot of people who can pull us back from this cliff we are tipped over.
Our local gas can manufacturer in Oklahoma was put out of business a couple of years ago by the EPA.
They had a good product but no longer. Thankfully I still have some of the old style cans.
Ever wonder what happened to the vapors from all those “Jerry cans” from the last 70 years?
Yep, CA started that nonsense.
And you can thank them for the nonsense on auto standards.
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