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Putin foe Khodorkovsky says Russia is lying about Ukraine
Reuters ^ | 9 Mar 14 | Timothy Heritage

Posted on 03/09/2014 12:19:06 PM PDT by elhombrelibre

Former oligarch Mikhail Khodorkovsky, addressing thousands of people at the cradle of the uprising against Ukraine's Moscow-backed leader, accused Russia on Sunday of being complicit in police violence against protesters.

To chants of "Russia, rise up", Khodorkovsky, who was jailed for a decade under President Vladimir Putin, told the crowd the Kremlin was lying to its own people by portraying the protesters as "neo-fascists" bent on violence.

Wearing a simple dark anorak and jeans, he addressed the crowd from a stage in Kiev's Independence Square, occupied by protesters since November despite police trying to oust them with force which resulted in about 100 deaths.

"I have been shown what the authorities did here. They did this in agreement with the Russian authorities - more than 100 dead, more than 5,000 wounded," Khodorkovsky told the crowd, who waved back with Ukrainian flags.

(Excerpt) Read more at in.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: khodorkovsky; mikhailkhodorkovsky; russia; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko

1 posted on 03/09/2014 12:19:06 PM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre

Sad news for pseudo-conservative Putinistas.


2 posted on 03/09/2014 12:19:44 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Our Pootie lovers will get over this news pretty damned quick.


3 posted on 03/09/2014 12:23:37 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: elhombrelibre

Khodorkovsky and his fellow oligarchs stand to gain the most from the parceling out of Ukrainian assets. Follow the $$$$


4 posted on 03/09/2014 12:24:35 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Islam Delenda Est)
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To: Natufian

Yes, it’s true. I remember reading in history how the Stalin admirers could justify everything he did. If he made a pact with Hitler, it was okay. If he crushed the peasants, it was okay. It was the same for the working class. So now we have a thug, really a no good son of a bitch, who oppressed the Russian people as a KGB agent when the Gulag was in full operating condition. He takes advantage of his police state skills to rise to power. He manipulates and even kills journalist. He jails opponents. And there are bozos here on this conservative site who seem as a cool dude despite the fact that he’s an obvious autocrat and an expatiationistic chauvinist. Did any of these newfangled “conservatives” who admire Putin ever read Solzhenitsyn? I doubt it. They’re our version of the low information voter.


5 posted on 03/09/2014 12:41:36 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: elhombrelibre
I've read Solzhenitsyn, and I think you'd be mighty disappointed to learn that he was: (1) a Russian nationalist first and foremost, (2) a strong opponent of Ukrainian sovereignty, and (3) a big fan of Putin, by all accounts.

An interesting contemporary read:

Putin's Pique

6 posted on 03/09/2014 12:52:02 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: elhombrelibre

I’m a conservative who’s read Solzhenitsyn and isn’t particularly fond of Putin, yet I find it hard to get real excited about the Ukraine situation. The notion that it’s a Stalinist/Hitlerian takeover just doesn’t have traction with me. To me it’s basically the loathsome EU versus the loathsome Putin. I’m content to stay on the sidelines and watch cat videos.


7 posted on 03/09/2014 12:53:23 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: elhombrelibre

Only the Party apparatus has changed. The goal remains the same.


8 posted on 03/09/2014 12:53:43 PM PDT by 22202NOVA (I stand with Ukraine...warts and all)
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To: Alberta's Child

You’re full of it. Solzhenitsyn had no interest in Russian empire and he considered Peter the Great an abomination, unlike Putin who never cared about all the Russian peasants Peter the Great harmed for his autocracy and narcissism. I’m done with you. You’re an obvious admirer of autocracy and a Putinista without any common decency. Go drool over Putin with his shirt off, ya bozo.


9 posted on 03/09/2014 12:56:01 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: 22202NOVA

Yes, and the Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Poles, Ukrainians, Belorussians, and even the Russians must pay for Putin’s unchecked autocracy, new found Russian chauvinism, ersatz Orthodoxy, and crony capitalism. The whole world is going to pay for Putin’s self aggrandizement. It’s inevitable and sadly a wonderful thing for the phony conservatives who admire tyranny.


10 posted on 03/09/2014 1:00:29 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Oh, lookie here -- an interesting bit of information courtesy of WikiLeaks:

WikiLeaks Cables: Solzhenitsyn Praise for Vladimir Putin

It's pretty obvious whey Snowden ended up in Russia.

11 posted on 03/09/2014 1:02:00 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: elhombrelibre
PITN: It's OK to Lie
12 posted on 03/09/2014 1:30:01 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks elhombrelibre.


13 posted on 03/09/2014 1:44:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Yardstick

“The notion that it’s a Stalinist/Hitlerian takeover just doesn’t have traction with me.”

The hyperbolic Putin hatred, without regard for the facts, is wearing thin.

What do you think a Machavellian, KGB-trained Russian Nationalist is going to do, when faced with a weak, pansy-a***d US President?


14 posted on 03/09/2014 2:05:15 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: x_plus_one
Khodorkovsky and his fellow oligarchs stand to gain the most from the parceling out of Ukrainian assets. Follow the $$$$

A people's revolution led by oligarchs...ironic isn't it?

15 posted on 03/09/2014 2:07:42 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: elhombrelibre

“Yes, and the Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Poles, Ukrainians, Belorussians, and even the Russians must pay for Putin’s unchecked autocracy”

Your hyperbolic BS is getting old.

Yes, if the Open Society institute starts another civil war in Estonia, Russia as the bordering nation may move to restore order.

It seems to me your hyperbolic hate is being directed at the wrong person/persons.


16 posted on 03/09/2014 2:07:42 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: elhombrelibre

“I have been shown what the authorities did here. They did this in agreement with the Russian authorities”

Just out of curiosity, how does he know?


17 posted on 03/09/2014 7:07:27 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (The last good thing that the UN did was Korea.)
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To: Alberta's Child

That’s an interesting story about Solzhenitsyn, in part because it was a wiki-leak that made it public.


18 posted on 03/09/2014 7:37:18 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: tcrlaf
Here is some "hyperbole" for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afVdnbMd6gA

19 posted on 03/10/2014 12:16:14 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: Alberta's Child

“Qualified praise...better than Yeltsin and Gorbachev.” Gee, that’s really special. But it doesn’t make as hot for Putin as you are.


20 posted on 03/10/2014 12:25:25 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: tcrlaf

http://www.cityam.com/blog/1393929175/poll-shows-not-one-majority-any-ukrainian-region-favours-joining-russia


21 posted on 03/10/2014 12:41:48 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: tcrlaf

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/03/russias-seizure-of-crimea-is-making-former-soviet-states-nervous/284156/


22 posted on 03/10/2014 12:53:51 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Free Ukraine. Free Venezuela. Free Syria. Free Iran. Free the USA.)
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To: tcrlaf
Your hyperbolic BS is getting old.

Agree 100%.

23 posted on 03/10/2014 5:58:27 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: elhombrelibre
And there are bozos here on this conservative site who seem as a cool dude despite the fact that he’s an obvious autocrat and an expatiationistic chauvinist.

Shouldn't be a surprise, given the support demonstrated here for authoritarian policies like the Drug War, the Patriot Act, militarizing the border and local police, foreign military adventurism, Internet censorship, and "good old capitalist" multinational corporations.

A majority of people among all political stripes want a "man on horseback" leader like Putin and the Big Government apparatus he wields, as long as they get to use that apparatus against people they don't like. So a majority of people vote for either Big Government Faction, (D) or (R) - only to find that they themselves eventually end up being the Uniparty's real targets. Mitch McConnell was unusually candid the other day when he publicly swore to destroy the Tea Party.

Being a principled supporter of Constitutional liberty is much harder. That's why so few of them are to be found, these days - and most get labeled by one or both Factions as nuts.

24 posted on 03/10/2014 5:36:34 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: mac_truck

Euromaidan is not a peoples revolution,. It is a bought and paid for enterprise of the US State Dept and its NGO allies. NATO assistance is used as heavy muscle. If the US has its way, Ukraine will end up like Serbia - the stopming grounds for home brew Islamic Armies bent on destruction of civilization as we know it.


25 posted on 03/12/2014 6:14:38 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Islam Delenda Est)
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