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“Cosmos” Premiere: Does Society Care about Science? (Reboot of Show By Carl Sagan)
FRom Quarks to Quasars ^ | March 10, 2014 | Staff

Posted on 03/10/2014 7:42:21 PM PDT by lbryce

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To: lbryce

Science is all settled, so why bother?


21 posted on 03/10/2014 8:19:47 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: lbryce

So, modern science is a process of consensus building, right? If we vote on a scientific principle, then it is true and cannot be challenged.

Therefore, if 900 out of 100 scientists believe that we can turn iron into gold, it must be true, correct?

I never did like that the scientific method was systematic in its observation, measurement, and experiment and the formulation, testing and modification of hypothesis.

Hypothesis: The world is heating up.
Observations and measurements: hidden e-mails and an unwillingness to share data, testing of different environments and comparing them to each other as though they are the same;
Experiment: Done completely with computer models with inadequate, incomplete and incorrect data as input.
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“Galileo, its time for lunch!” OK, Mom! I’ll be right there!”


22 posted on 03/10/2014 8:21:01 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: lbryce
Carl Sagan fits the politically correct profile of the Communists running this country. Science programs like Cosmos can be used to manipulate the Zer0 Info-bots into thinking the Creator is irrelevant and that the smart elites know better than the little people who pray. The elite gods know better and will show us the road to the fantasy land on the Unicorn Farm. This may be the show that shoves Man Made Global Warming down our throats along with all the other enviroweenie poppycock.
23 posted on 03/10/2014 8:25:07 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: mrsmith
"Personally I don't expect any show about 'science' on TV to be of the slightest usefulness, or entertainment."

HERETIC!!

MYTHBUSTERS

24 posted on 03/10/2014 8:27:43 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: The Duke

Well, that’s the straw that breaks this camel’s back. I’ll give ‘Vikings’ a try.

In return all I can reccommend is “Black Mirror”, a sardonic British ‘Twilight Zone’; and “Axe Cop”, a 5 year old’s cartoon-view of life and law which is astonishly refreshing.


25 posted on 03/10/2014 8:29:18 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: lbryce
“Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey” premiered yesterday night.* This reboot is an update on the original series, which was produced by (possibly) the most beloved astronomer of the 20th century, the late Carl Sagan.

Carl Sagan was IMHO, the Mister Rogers of Science -- maybe somewhat enlightening for people who were mostly ignorant of science, but he used that platform in his Cosmos series to push his far left political views. At that time, Sagan was pushing fears of a New Ice Age due to all that Capitalistic pollution. ;~))

I have no doubt the "New Cosmos" will push the current hard left scare story of Global Warming due to Capitalistic pollution just as hard as Sagan pushed the new ice age crap back in the 80s.

It would be nice to have just a science program that stuck with science without the partisan politics thrown in.

Probably too much to ask for anymore.

26 posted on 03/10/2014 8:38:04 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: lbryce

Carl Sagan opposed the War In Iraq because it would alter the word’s weather. He used science for political ends.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_winter


27 posted on 03/10/2014 8:40:49 PM PDT by preacher (I am not a global warming hoax denier.)
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To: lbryce

I thought the show was very well produced. I can’t wait to see the other 12 episodes. Makes me want to go back and watch the old version of the show too.
We need more science for the masses.


28 posted on 03/10/2014 8:43:56 PM PDT by christx30 (Freedom above all.)
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To: Kennard

They lie about ALL history....it is ALL an extreme distortion. You have to actually go to “original” sources to find close to the Truth.

I run into the Galileo Lies all the time.........just like they call the Middle Ages the “Dark Ages”. The Catholic Church just told Galileo since he couldn’t “prove” his theory (which he couldn’t—and it was wrong anyhow with the circular orbits) was the “truth”, he needed to just call it a “theory”. There was a reason the Catholic Church did not claim “Truth” unless there was sufficient proof-—especially during the times of Martin Luther.

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-galileo-controversy


29 posted on 03/10/2014 8:47:07 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: lbryce

Watched the first 20, and fell asleep. Tyson is annoying. Is he a REAL astrophysicist, or an AA prop?


30 posted on 03/10/2014 8:47:54 PM PDT by montag813
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To: lbryce

I watched some of “Cosmos” the first time around. Sagan was a pretentious leftist wimp. Most of the show was him saying “Look how smart I am.”


31 posted on 03/10/2014 8:48:50 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: lbryce

True science is honorable and worthy of respect because it allows the facts to speak and humbly accepts facts that destroy erroneous theories.

However, as government grows bigger and intrudes more into our lives, ideology takes over for economics and logic when it comes to even personal decisions. And thus in this era, we have “science” that is dishonorable lies. We have very smart people groveling at the feet of the government source of their next grant. We have ideology determining scientific truth.

Science, especially ecological and climate science is horribly corrupt. The only interest that I have in it is to see how they have made fools of themselves this week, and it would only be sad except some of this folly and madness seeps into government policy. We are, for example, headed for a collapse of the electric grid at the moment when we need it most (probably on the coldest night of the year), because government climate policy has force a lot of coal-fired power plants to be shut down. People will die due to lack of power more surely than they will die of global lukewarming.


32 posted on 03/10/2014 8:54:51 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: mrsmith
Thx for the recommendation ... I'll keep my eyes open for it. :)

During last season's "Vikings" I was struck by all the details in the sets (for example a golden chain that was strung around their most sacred temple), so I did a little research and found that everything I was noticing was historically accurate.

33 posted on 03/10/2014 8:54:58 PM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: lbryce

Cosmos was the most brutally anti-Christian piece of crap I have ever seen coughed up from the sewer in which Seth MacFarlane spawns. I tuned in for a CGI-fest about outer space, and got a cartoon about blood libel. I expected maybe the typical miscasting of Galileo as beign faith v Reason instead of Inductive v Deductive reasoning, and instead watched the madman paleo-new-ager Giordano Bruno, a pathetic opponent of reason and intellect, cast as the Messiah. And the science was stuck with Carl Sagan in 1980, while the space scenes were Star Wars, not science.

Never have I been so disappointed by a TV show.


34 posted on 03/10/2014 9:15:57 PM PDT by dangus
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To: jonrick46

Exactly. Here is how G.K. Chesterton put it——and he lived at the time of the Satanic George Bernard Shaw and all the Eugenicists/ Malthusians/ Postmodernists.

“...I have remarked that the materialist, like the madman, is in prison; in the prison of one thought. These people seemed to think it singularly inspiring to keep on saying that the prison was very large. The size of this scientific universe gave one no novelty, no relief. The Cosmos went on for ever, but not in the wildest constellation could there be really anything really interesting; anything, for instance, as forgiveness or Free Will. The grandeur or infinity of the secret of its cosmos added nothing to it...........nothing to show us but more and more infinite corridors of space lit by ghastly suns and empty of all that is divine.” p.86 Orthodoxy


35 posted on 03/10/2014 9:18:45 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: PTBAA

Get the garlic powder!!!


36 posted on 03/10/2014 9:19:32 PM PDT by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: lbryce

Any astronauts space walkers, raise your hands, if you hear dramatic music while in space.

Incessant music and “universal tan”, and off goes the program here, no matter what.

Lucifer’s kingdom.

Any reality of The Cosmos would constantly be refering to the following in the narrative:

“Psalms:19:1: The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
Psalms:19:2: Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
Psalms:19:3: There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
Psalms:19:4: Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
Psalms:19:5: Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
Psalms:19:6: His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.....”


37 posted on 03/10/2014 9:20:40 PM PDT by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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Psalms 19:1: The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

Indeed. I think of that verse when viewing the Hubble Ultra Deep Field in 3D.

The UDF shows off God's creation in the most majestic way that I have ever seen.

38 posted on 03/10/2014 9:30:09 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: cripplecreek

Neil DeGrasse Tyson.

... I saw some of the first part and it looked like the same old same old. What turned me off was the “Star Wars” style asteroid belt. Why do they all do that? In fact all the visual effects were the usual cliches that are so familiar to us from the “billions and billions” of science shows that we can find airing almost any night. No thanks.


39 posted on 03/10/2014 9:39:16 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: lbryce
" (possibly) the most beloved astronomer of the 20th century, the late Carl Sagan."

Beloved by the current global warming crowd- back then it was "nuclear winter", invented by Sagan. Pompous ass.

40 posted on 03/10/2014 10:02:11 PM PDT by matthew fuller (No, I don't miss GWB- I miss Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld.)
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