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RAND PAUL ON TED CRUZ: "I'M NOT REAL EXCITED ABOUT HIM MISCHARACTERIZING MY VIEWS"
Breitbart ^ | 03/11/2014 | Jonathan Strong

Posted on 03/11/2014 8:02:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Sen. Rand Paul continued his aggressive brush back of comments from his usual ally Sen. Ted Cruz suggesting that Paul is positioned at the left, dovish flank of the GOP on foreign policy, telling Fox News host Sean Hannity Cruz was “mischaracterizing” his views.

“We always have been good friends. I'm not real excited about him mischaracterizing my views. I won't let that pass. I think that sometimes want to stand up and say hey, look at me, I'm the next Ronald Reagan. Well, almost all of us in the party are big fans of Ronald Reagan,” Paul said.

“I've always been a big fan of peace through strength. I think America should and has a responsibility around the world and really, virtually all of the opinions that have been coming from Republicans are somewhat the same on this – that Putin should be condemned, he should be isolated. I favor sanctions on Putin. So, for people to characterize that as somehow not being the Reagan position, I think they need to have a re-reading of Reagan, frankly,” Paul added.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky; US: Texas; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: foreignpolicy; friendsofmidge; kentucky; randnesty; randpaul; randsconcerntrolls; sonofwrongpaul; tedcruz; texas; waronterror
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To: iowamark; BarnacleCenturion
You have not been following the news. Google "Rand Paul amnesty" and you will see that he has made many statements in favor of amnesty.

Here are the links, from last year, where Rand Paul clearly lays out his own Amnesty plan for 2 million illegals per year, based on a "Certification" from a Pro-Amnesty congress that the border is "secure". No Fence, No E-Verify, No punishments for ID Fraud, and all the other misdemeanors and felonies committed by the Undocumented Democrats he wants to pardon.

Sen. Rand Paul: Trust but verify on immigration reform (Feburary 8th, 2013)

Rand Paul’s “Undocumented Citizens” Path to Legality (and Citizenship) (March 20, 2013)

Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform (March 19, 2013 Article)

Rand Paul's presence-and-jobs amnesty -- WITHOUT E-Verify


No, America Does Not Have “De Facto Amnesty”

GOP's Rand Paul, Dems' Luis Gutierrez in step on immigration reform

Rand Paul: Pathway To Citizenship Is Needed, E-Verify Is Not

Rand Paul On Illegals: Trust But Verify

Steve Deace – Et Tu, Rand Paul?

Paul: Republican Party in Need of Facelift

41 posted on 03/11/2014 8:59:30 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: marron

It’s too early for Cruz to run for POTUS. He can and will do a lot more good with a Senate majority!


42 posted on 03/11/2014 9:00:05 AM PDT by Mountain Mary ("Where Liberty Dwells, There Is My Country". Ben Franklin)
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To: Mariner; Beagle8U

Mariner, Beagle8U appear to just be ANTI Rand Paul. Making false statements about his positions and using hyperbole instead of facts to trash him every chance they get.

I would take anything posted by these two with a grain of salt.


43 posted on 03/11/2014 9:03:25 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Dagnabitt
"I think I'll take Rand Paul's own words over your's any day.

Great from his offical web site at senate.gov

"I do not support amnesty, I support legal immigration and recognize that the country has been enriched by those who seek the freedom to make a life for themselves. However, millions of illegal immigrants are crossing our border without our knowledge and causing a clear threat to our national security. I want to work in the Senate to secure our border immediately. In addition, I support the creation of a border fence and increased border patrol capabilities.

Immigrants should meet the current requirements, which should be enforced and updated. I realize that subsidizing something creates more of it, and do not think the taxpayer should be forced to pay for welfare, medical care and other expenses for illegal immigrants. Once the subsidies for illegal immigration are removed, the problem will likely become far less common.

I support local solutions to illegal immigration as protected by the 10th amendment. ,b>I support making English the official language of all documents and contracts.

Millions crossing our border without our knowledge constitutes a clear threat to our nation's security. Instead of closing military bases at home and renting space in Europe, I am open to the construction of bases to protect our border.

44 posted on 03/11/2014 9:04:31 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: faucetman; Beagle8U
And this: “Conservatives, myself included, are wary of amnesty. My plan will not grant amnesty or move anyone to the front of the line.”

Facts are Important!

Rand Paul is a Liar!

From Merriam-Webster.com:

am·nes·ty noun \ˈam-nə-stē\

: a decision that a group of people will not be punished or that a group of prisoners will be allowed to go free


Every Illegal Alien (A.K.A. Undocumented Democrat) who is or has worked in the U.S.A. has committed ID Fraud.

Every Illegal Alien who driven a car in the U.S.A. has committed ID Fraud.

Every Illegal Alien who has received Health Care or any form of Social Services has committed ID Fraud.

ID Fraud is a felony, not a misdemeanor, a Felony. Something that if you or I committed it, we would land our butts in jail.

Rand Paul's Amnesty Plan "Normalizes" or Legalizes illegal aliens.

There is nothing in his plan to punish those who have committed these felonies, in fact, all is forgiven, they are now "Normalized" or legalized under his plan.

This is the text-book definition of Amnesty.

Once again, Rand Paul is a Liar!
45 posted on 03/11/2014 9:08:07 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Mountain Mary; marron
It’s too early for Cruz to run for POTUS. He can and will do a lot more good with a Senate majority!

Why?

Abraham Lincoln served one term (2 years) in the House of Representatives before he ran for President.

By that measure, Senator Cruz will be much more ready for the job.
46 posted on 03/11/2014 9:10:35 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Dagnabitt

Yes, watch the edited video. I agree with everything he says. Your definition of amnesty and his (and mine) must be quite different. Headline is a LIE, he never says in the edited video... he has a wish to grant amnesty to ANYONE.

He has a well thought out plan. Maybe instead of bloviating inaccuracies, you might read up on what he has to say.
Explore this site. It has a wealth of info from Rand himself, about himself.


47 posted on 03/11/2014 9:14:02 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman

So...Runt Paul tells you he is a conservative, and in your world that qualifies as a ‘fact’?

Liberaltarians lie to get elected, it’s their nature.


48 posted on 03/11/2014 9:14:53 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: iowamark

How’d he vote on the Senate bill?

Oh, he voted AGAINST the amnesty bill?

So, not so much “pro-” amnesty then....

Glad we cleared that up.


49 posted on 03/11/2014 9:19:00 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: Beagle8U

Well, let’s see what the ACU has on his record...

https://votesmart.org/candidate/117285/rand-paul#.Ux84ISe9KSM

100%?

You don’t say...


50 posted on 03/11/2014 9:21:55 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: faucetman

Rand played the triangulation game with immigration, and it probably worked in terms of positive press without having to ultimately support open borders. He might oppose amnesty, but he certainly wasn’t leading the fight against it.

I like him, but he has been disappointing on this issue.


51 posted on 03/11/2014 9:22:51 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: cdcdawg

Agreed. He tried to get in on the discussion by offering an amendment, but ultimately he gave ammo to folks who don’t like his family very much...

The “appearance of impropriety” thing.


52 posted on 03/11/2014 9:26:02 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: Dead Corpse

See what the ACLU has him rated at.

He’s still a Liberaltarian.


53 posted on 03/11/2014 9:27:52 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Beagle8U

ACLU : 25%

Mostly because of his stance on NSA spying on us.

Hardly a paragon of Libertarian ideals...


54 posted on 03/11/2014 9:31:54 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rand on Rand:

“Clearly, state and local government believe they must take these matters into their own hands, because of the federal government failure, and I support their right to do so.”

“I support laws that allow immigration status to be checked as a secondary issue, meaning, if a person has been stopped for some other valid reason. I support the full enforcement of federal immigration laws, be it by federal or state law enforcement.”

“Finally, as a United States Senator, I will vote for any bill that strengthens border security, including the construction of a physical or electronic fence.”

You ANTI Paul guys love to throw around the BUZZWORD “amnesty”. Amnesty to you is any plan that doesn’t include sending all illegals back home or putting them in jail or in concentration camps.

I’m sorry, but this position is just plain Ignorant.

It will NEVER happen, and it is completely disingenuous.

Any candidate proposing such ideas is committing political suicide. HISPANICS VOTE. Hispanics are a MAJORITY voting block.

Rand Paul makes complete sense. He is a Realist.

http://www.randpaul2016.com/2010/05/rand-paul-on-illegal-immigration/


55 posted on 03/11/2014 9:33:38 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Beagle8U
"Works for me!"

Well, it's apparent you never want the GOP to win another national election...nor a good number of Senate, House or Governor seats again.

The GOP cannot win without libertarians OR social conservatives.

They'll just have to find a way to get along or the Democrats will continue to make gains until such time as all other parties just close up shop.

I'm GUESSING here, but my sense is that both the social conservatives and libertarians are about 25% each of the Republican party. The rest can be called "moderates" or "stupid", which ever your prefer.

But both factions care very deeply about the course of the country and I believe they can find compromise.

Even while continuing to argue:)

56 posted on 03/11/2014 9:35:21 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: faucetman
Right - Massive legalization of illegals is not really Amnesty... beacause Rand Paul says it isn't.

Heard this nonsense before from folks like John McCain.

"They have to 'pay a fine', and fill out six forms in triplicate, so it's not Amnesty." "Yes, they all get to stay forever but it's not Amnesty because Amnesty is something else..."

57 posted on 03/11/2014 9:35:31 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Dead Corpse

It’s enough to make one think that the ACLU isn’t really a good guide for what qualifies as “libertarian”.

There are actual reasons why both of the Pauls are Republicans, not Libertarians.


58 posted on 03/11/2014 9:37:39 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: faucetman

I guess I’m old fashioned because I prefer patriotic candidates who defend my homeland from massive illegal invasions from the third world.


59 posted on 03/11/2014 9:38:25 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: iowamark

Bearing false witness?


60 posted on 03/11/2014 9:40:33 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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