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For Good Highways, Use Tolls and Ditch the Gasoline Tax
Townhall.com ^ | March 11, 2014 | Michael Barone

Posted on 03/11/2014 8:20:10 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Travis T. OJustice

IMO, the gas tax makes the most sense and is the fairest way to pay for the cost of the roads. Heavier vehicles use more fuel and pay more per mile, which makes sense because they cause more road wear per mile than lighter vehicles.

Now if we could just get them to properly use the taxes collected.


21 posted on 03/11/2014 8:53:58 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I miss you, dad.)
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To: Haiku Guy

Gas and diesel state tax in Texas is .20 per gallon. That does not include federal tax, which is most assuredly more than state tax. So we are talking .45 per gallon.
So, 20 gallon tank and your tax bill is $9.00.
If you drive the toll road, you could pay $6-$14 depending on length of drive each way, each day. What has happened to this once free country?
Regardless, they have us by the short hairs. They are not going to give up either source of revenue.


22 posted on 03/11/2014 9:03:11 AM PDT by 9422WMR (: " Tolerance is the virtue of a man who has no convictions".)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

LOL! [and likely from the annals of ‘sad, but true’]


23 posted on 03/11/2014 9:06:00 AM PDT by Qiviut (It's hard to be a donk if you're sane & it's hard to be a pubbie if you have any integrity.)
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To: 9422WMR

The Federal Gas Tax is one tax for the whole country. You try to raise that, and there is a political price to be paid. The state gas taxes are resistant to change, because local legislators know they will lose votes if they raise them.

But if there are a thousand little road use zones, each with it’s own tax rate, each rate can be raised, little by little, with hardly any objection from the taxpaying population.

So the per mile usage fee will increase exponentially, while the Gas Tax has stayed the same for years. The first person who expresses surprise when this happens should be put up against the wall.


24 posted on 03/11/2014 9:06:24 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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To: Kaslin
Oh yes, I'd just LOVE the government tracking my every move to make sure I'd paid for it!!!

Gas taxes force those who use heavier vehicles to pay more, as they do more damage to roads. They motivate higher mileage cars better than mandates do. They are opaque to the government. They require no new infrastructure. There is minimal possibility for an invasion of privacy.

Barone is being a statist troll here.

25 posted on 03/11/2014 9:06:58 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare: Make them pay; do not delay.)
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To: Kaslin
For Good Highways, Use Tolls and Ditch the Gasoline Tax

And just what entity would be in charge of COLLECTING these tolls?

Likewise which one would be responsible for MAINTAINING the road?

26 posted on 03/11/2014 9:19:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Tolls and gas taxes always go up here in PA but the roads actually seem to get worse.


27 posted on 03/11/2014 9:22:43 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The toll booths were supposed to come down at that point. They are still there.


28 posted on 03/11/2014 9:26:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: catman67
Already do that with MD-200 and they photo your license and send you a bill if you don’t have E-Z Pass.

Small laptop to fit over your plate.

Pictures of various state officials license plates.

Slide show them as you drive.

29 posted on 03/11/2014 9:29:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Travis T. OJustice
Government tracking devices in all cars.

You are getting them anyway...

OnStar. How may I help you?

30 posted on 03/11/2014 9:30:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Haiku Guy
But if there are a thousand little road use zones, each with it’s own tax rate, each rate can be raised, little by little, with hardly any objection from the taxpaying population.

Ribbet!

31 posted on 03/11/2014 9:31:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

What’s a toll booth?


32 posted on 03/11/2014 9:44:27 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Elsie

Oooooh...finally, a truly useful tablet app!

Look for bootleg copies of prezzie-limo plates, better known as ‘The Beast’.

Oh the possibilities. Cunning you are. ;>)


33 posted on 03/11/2014 9:45:08 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Kaslin
We'll wind up with tolls AND the gasoline tax.

Taxes never die. Ever.

34 posted on 03/11/2014 9:55:40 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Barack Hussein Obama entertains a thought that he does not verbalize, is it still a lie?)
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The further Barone strays from his area of expertise, the stupider his pieces become.


35 posted on 03/11/2014 11:29:24 AM PDT by pluvmantelo (Sure would be nice if the same articles weren't posted multiple times)
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To: DManA

The way things are around FR these days, it’ll be posted at least two more times. Maybe three.


36 posted on 03/11/2014 11:37:18 AM PDT by pluvmantelo (Sure would be nice if the same articles weren't posted multiple times)
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To: Kaslin

This crazy idea benefits only those living in major cities with a cross town form of public transport.

What the author prescribes will result in driving more people into urban centers,increasing house prices,reducing the road usage tax base,decreasing vehicle sales,and increasing transportation costs for foods and goods.


37 posted on 03/11/2014 11:41:46 AM PDT by managusta (The first sign of maturity is the discovery that the volume knob also turns to the left.)
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To: poinq
If you live in Kansas, you don't need toll roads as almost everybody who drives through the state (at least E-W) will stop to buy fuel. In NJ, a full tank of gas will get you all the way through the state. So, to pay for the NJ Turnpike (Interstate 95) tolls are a near necessity as so much of the traffic doesn't stop in the state.

Interstate 80/90 through Ohio and Indiana is pretty much the same situation, lots of through traffic that need not stop in the state.

Of course, if you do stop and fuel up, you are double paying for your driving, once by toll and once by gas tax (and maybe a 3rd time via the jacked up monopoly prices at the on-highway service stations). That really makes the politicians smile.

In MN, the idea of a toll road is just a ploy to get approval from the voters who will all think that it's some other guy who's paying the bill. Eventually, more roads will have tolls and the poor driver/voter will eventually find that they are double paying for their driving most of the time, once in tolls and once in gas tax.

38 posted on 03/11/2014 12:36:20 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog; logic101.net

We had a similar situation with GA 400, a tollway in Atlanta. Though later than promised, and only after considerable public outcry, the toll booths are coming down right now, no more tolls are being collected. I think they stopped last October.


39 posted on 03/11/2014 12:39:48 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Kaslin

Let’s just go back to the barter system too, while we are at it. /s


40 posted on 03/11/2014 12:43:20 PM PDT by DannyTN
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