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David Jolly defeats Alex Sink in Florida 13th (Early test case of Obamacare)
Politico ^ | 03/11/2013 | By ALEX ISENSTADT

Posted on 03/11/2014 5:46:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Republican David Jolly narrowly defeated Democrat Alex Sink in the special election for Florida’s 13th District on Tuesday in an expensive race watched closely by both parties as the midterm election season kicks into high gear.

With 100 percent of precincts reporting, Jolly beat Sink 48.5 percent to 46.6 percent, according to The Associated Press.

Both Democrats and the GOP plowed millions of dollars into the swing district race in hopes of an election year boost. The results appeared to vindicate the strategy of the GOP, which focused its attacks on linking Sink to Obamacare and managed to win with an untested candidate that many in the national party had grown frustrated with.

Sink was “ultimately brought down because of her unwavering support for Obamacare, and that should be a loud warning for other Democrats running coast to coast,” National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Greg Walden said in a statement.

Democrats countered that Sink had done fairy well considering the climate, and noted that another vote for the seat is just a few months away.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2014midterms; alexsik; congress; davidjolly; fl2014; florida
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1 posted on 03/11/2014 5:46:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Doesn’t Jolly have to run this election all over again in November?


2 posted on 03/11/2014 5:48:54 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: SeekAndFind

wow!


3 posted on 03/11/2014 5:49:16 PM PDT by Tuxedo (Forget Gold - buy Lead!)
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To: SeekAndFind

GOP gotta go right. Gotta get rid of those Libertarians. Deal with the Two Party System, FRiends. The best can be the enemy of the good and the friend of the worst.


4 posted on 03/11/2014 5:49:18 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( The Republican Party is in Hospice Care. Hold all contributions.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought this was a lean dem district.


5 posted on 03/11/2014 5:49:20 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: SeekAndFind

**Boner Alert***


6 posted on 03/11/2014 5:49:21 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Whew...David Jolly was not a very strong candidate whereas Sink was a recent statewide candidate.

This win is huge...not just holding the seat. That 1.9% prevented a wall-to-wall media onslaught about how Democrats were now squarely back in command, Obama and Obamacare are surging in popularity, etc.


7 posted on 03/11/2014 5:50:39 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SeekAndFind

Im sure Rubio and the neocons didn’t help. I believe there would be a lot of protest votes.


8 posted on 03/11/2014 5:50:44 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: SeekAndFind

A couple of other threads if anyone is interested in the comments thereon:

DAVID JOLLY BEATS ALEX SINK IN FLA 13 RACE
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3132176/posts

FLORIDA SPECIAL ELECTION RESULTS: GOP’S DAVID JOLLY LEADS
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3132184/posts


9 posted on 03/11/2014 5:51:00 PM PDT by deport
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To: SeekAndFind; a fool in paradise
Tomorrow's headlines today

Sink Sinks, Jolly Jolly!


10 posted on 03/11/2014 5:54:02 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Kenny Bunk

No, the libertarians have to get rid of those rancid, utterly corrupt, unprincipled Republicans.


11 posted on 03/11/2014 5:56:13 PM PDT by huckfillary
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To: Repeal The 17th

yes


12 posted on 03/11/2014 5:57:18 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Broi)
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To: Tuxedo

GOOD NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


13 posted on 03/11/2014 5:58:36 PM PDT by gooblah (gooblah)
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To: SeekAndFind

I had heard from Republican operatives that this seat was lost; I’m glad they were wrong. CNN was treating this election as a bellwether for Obamacare this morning, I believe in the expectation that Sink, who had a sizable lead in the polls, would win. Now that she lost, I bet it hardly gets a mention tomorrow, only as a longtime Republican district and without much reference to it being a test for Obamacare.


14 posted on 03/11/2014 5:59:01 PM PDT by laconic
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To: SeekAndFind

The Dims’ pet Libertarian could not pull it out for them, apparently.


15 posted on 03/11/2014 6:02:38 PM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Sink outspent the white guy 4 to 1 in a district that Obama won twice. And she had a big advantage being a victim in the “war on women”.


16 posted on 03/11/2014 6:04:27 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: laconic

I think it leans towards the rats.....But not by much....But the GOP has held it for 15 years....


17 posted on 03/11/2014 6:05:06 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: SeekAndFind

Sink (D) should have won this easily. Although it has been in Republican hands since the 80s, she has great name recognition that Jolly didn’t have. Also, Jolly had to go through a primary battle and spent lots of money early on. Sink didn’t have a primary opponent. Also, considering the changing demographics of the area, it should have been much easier for Sink. Obamacare and lousy campaigning did her in. Thank God. Too bad Jolly has to run again in November...


18 posted on 03/11/2014 6:05:59 PM PDT by floridavoter2
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To: SeekAndFind; All
Given that Democrats probably had their thumbs on the vote-counting scale, this is a good win for constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited power conservatives.

Also, if Ms Sink really wants to support Obamacare Democratcare within the framework of the Constitution then she needs to do the following. She needs to work with state and federal lawmakers to propose a healthcare amendment to the Constitution to the states for ratification. And if the Constitution's Article V state supermajority chooses to ratify her amendment, then Obamacare Democratcare will actually be constitutional and Sink will be a hero.

19 posted on 03/11/2014 6:09:49 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: SeekAndFind

Sink is sunk!


20 posted on 03/11/2014 6:10:39 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: Kenny Bunk

The libertarians got almost 5%, but it wasn’t enough to throw it to the democrats.


21 posted on 03/11/2014 6:12:30 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: SeekAndFind

I didn’t know much about this until I read up on it yesterday. I would agree—this is a huge win. If Sink had won, she looks like the type who would have held onto it for the next 20 or 30 years—at least until she decided to move up and run for Senator. Now the Republicans have a good chance to hold onto it over the long term. Shovel the famous Democrat candidate out of there!


22 posted on 03/11/2014 6:12:31 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: floridavoter2

Not good for OBAMACARE....Sink run on fixing it....GOP had the seat since Nixon....Trending rat because the rats up north are moving into the area...


23 posted on 03/11/2014 6:12:59 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: samadams2000

Jolly and Sink. This all sounds like a bad Bill Clinton re-run.


24 posted on 03/11/2014 6:13:35 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: Hojczyk

Obama won the district twice, 52-48 in 2008 and 51-49 against Romney. I also understand that Sink ran as the Dem candidate for governor three years ago and narrowly lost to Rick Scott so she had name recognition - Stuart Rothenberg had called this in February a “must win” for the Dems and a real blow to Obama if she lost. I also heard (and read) that Jolly’s campaign was a mess, but the Reps did a good job in getting absentee ballots in for today’s election.


25 posted on 03/11/2014 6:14:12 PM PDT by laconic
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To: SeekAndFind

This would be a huge win. Sink was predicted to win - led in every poll.


26 posted on 03/11/2014 6:14:22 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: SeekAndFind

the next one is the congressional seat held by Tray Radel.I am hoping for Curt Clawson over that Buttafuccio candiate.


27 posted on 03/11/2014 6:21:39 PM PDT by Cruz_West_Paul2016
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To: SeekAndFind

She probably would have won if she hadn’t kept smearing Jolly in her ads with false claims.


28 posted on 03/11/2014 6:23:25 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Viennacon

“I thought this was a lean dem district.”

The district includes St. Petersburg, which is an artsy retirement city trying to be like Sarasota. Still for a flat out communist like Sink to get 46 percent is scary.


29 posted on 03/11/2014 6:28:19 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: KC_Conspirator; All
‘This would be a huge win. Sink was predicted to win - led in every poll.’

This district has a lot of Hispanics and from what I saw while recently in Tampa , a good many blacks. Both candidates were running many TV ads. Jolly’s were firmly focused on ‘Sink helped give us Obama care. She has to go.’. Sink’s were basically that Ocare is good for ‘the people’ and Jolly was a bad ‘rich man’ who even wants to explore Social Security privatization. Considering the ethnic mix and the conventional wisdom that the 65 plus set in Florida are paranoidically stupid about doing anything ever to change Social Insecurity this really is a pretty big win. It seems to indicate that the 65 plus types are more afraid of Ocare than potential changes to SS sometime off in the future. Also ‘minorities’ normally don't turn out as much in the off year elections. Those two things being said it may auger a real debacle for the Dems this November. People like Miss Piggy in Louisiana are probably finished.

30 posted on 03/11/2014 6:29:27 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: laconic

I think ‘the lesson’ from this win is the GOPe wins when they go all out for the candidate that they didn’t want.

Of course, no self-respecting apparatchik at the RNC will ever see it that way LOL!


31 posted on 03/11/2014 6:29:43 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Viennacon
RE: “I thought this was a lean Democrat district?”

Yes, the last poll I saw had the Democrat candidate up by 9%.

Florida District 13 was “reassigned” to Pinellas County (St. Petersburg) in 2013, according to Wikipedia.

Previously, according to Wiki, District 13 included a number of more rural counties clustered around Sarasota just to the south.

So, I'm not sure we can make comparisons to previous elections.

Also, the Libertarian candidate got 5% of the vote.

That sounds huge to me, since nationally the Libbers only get around 1%.

That 5% number also sounds like a noisy rejection of the GOP candidate, too, but that's my opinion, no data to back it up.

Pinellas County is 76% white.

In 2012, 61% of white Florida voters voted for Romney.

At first glance, it looks like about 60% of white Pinellas County voters voted for the GOP candidate.

32 posted on 03/11/2014 6:31:09 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Tuxedo

Wow. Exactly what I was going to post.

Been a ton of advertisements here by Sink, very clearly stating, “We need to keep the good things about the ACA”. I’ve read several major news articles on how this election is a bellwether referendum. This is huge.


33 posted on 03/11/2014 6:37:05 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: robowombat

I would hope Miss Piggy is finished. Had enough of her double talk.


34 posted on 03/11/2014 6:44:52 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: zeestephen

That was before Florida got its own McCainiac, ie. Rubio.


35 posted on 03/11/2014 6:47:25 PM PDT by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: laconic
Now that she lost, I bet it hardly gets a mention tomorrow, only as a longtime Republican district

Heard Rep-elect Jolly on Fox about 30 minutes ago, and he noted that Nancy Pug-ugly is downplaying the loss now.

36 posted on 03/11/2014 6:50:26 PM PDT by ssaftler (Obama speaking is like the Fat Lady warming up: "Me Me Me Me Meeee")
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To: ansel12
The libertarians got almost 5%, but it wasn’t enough to throw it to the democrats.

Alleluia!

Lissen, I am calling in drone strikes on Libertarians. Until some Republican Soros-type starts funding far-Left-nut-fringe-Greens or Earthers or whateva, a Third Party on the right is just going to hand our government to Democrats.

Yeah, The Two-Party thing is a scam ... but it's what we got. If we had 4 or 5 parties, 'nother story. But this is America and we don't.

What we haven't figured out .... and need to ... is how to give the GOP a decent burial and who the heirs are to be. Trouble is the RINO scam is one of the most lucrative in the nation's history. Mitch McConnell, John Boehner, Orrin Hatch, Bobby Dole ... you are talking PERSONAL mega-mega-millions all stashed while in office ... just like their ultra-wealthy pals across the aisle. The Clintons, the Gores ... BILLIONaires. Ditto Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein. Reid, being dumber, is only worth a couple hundred million. When a jerk like Biden can amass a fortune in politics, something ain't right.

37 posted on 03/11/2014 7:16:49 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( The Republican Party is in Hospice Care. Hold all contributions.)
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To: zeestephen
60% of the County's "white" vote is not enough to carry the district, because 99% of the non-white vote is going the other way, with fraud hot spots available if it really gets tight.

Betcha non-white turnout in this one was light.

38 posted on 03/11/2014 7:20:01 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( The Republican Party is in Hospice Care. Hold all contributions.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

GOP == big govt
Libertarians == small govt by definition

and you want more big govt? are you on crack? or are you not paying enough taxes that you feel you, and everyone else, should pay more?

yea... quality


39 posted on 03/11/2014 7:34:01 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: floridavoter2
Too bad Jolly has to run again in November..

Maybe he learned something in this fight.
(1.)Fight harder
(2.) Leave the bimbo at home
(3.) Tell the RNC to drop off the money and STFU.
(4.) Screw minority outreach. The SOBs ain't gonna vote for you. Slap the bastards with "Vote Fraud." "Voter ID" "Welfare Cuts." "Stand Your Ground." "Concealed Carry." "Gallows in Public Parks in Urban Neighborhoods." "No illegals." "Deport Welfare Mothers to Alaska," "NO sympathy for Trayvon." ETC.
(5.) Gay Marriage? Un-Natural. Unhealthy. Queer. Bad example for the children.
(6.) Education? Bring back corporal punishment, rigorous trades training for the academically weak, and banishment to work camps in the 'Glades for the disruptive. Make Sheriff Joe Education Czar!

Jolly, pick 3 out of the above and hammer away.

40 posted on 03/11/2014 7:34:15 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( The Republican Party is in Hospice Care. Hold all contributions.)
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To: sten

Social liberalism leads to big government, so libertarian = big government.

Social decay creates liberal voters who vote for what they want, and can take.


41 posted on 03/11/2014 7:41:04 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: FreeAtlanta
Jolly and Sink. This all sounds like a bad Bill Clinton re-run.

Mister Mustard in the oral office sink with a cuban cigar.

42 posted on 03/11/2014 7:43:51 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorrist savages, everywhere.)
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To: sten
Take your Libertarian energy into the GOP.

Yeah, the GOPe has failed miserably. So help us take off the "e" and don't use your vote to automatically give the government to the Socialists and Communists ... who are the upper reaches of the Democrat Party.

Think. The Democrat Party in its lower orders is an American Party. However, its leadership and strategy are firmly in the hands of "intellectuals" who are committed to a fundamental revolution against the Republic. Indirectly, and for frankly the best of reasons, the Libertarians are inadvertently helping them overthrow the American way of life. Think. That is why George Soros directly or indirectly funds Libertarian (and other anti-Republican Party) campaigns.

Yeah the GOP is bad, OK? But what GOP fat cat, establishment, RINO, or whateva is going to appoint a Van Jones, or that MF who defended Moumia? (Or live with his catamite in the White House?)

Seems to me that Libertarians and Establishment Republicans are making the same mistake about the Democrat Party. The Democrat ideology is NOT something to get along with as the RINOs do. Much less is it something to help place in power through internecine political struggles.

Ross Perot was right. BFD. All he managed to do was derail George H.W. Bush, replacing a good President with an SOB like crooked, coked-out Bill Clinton.

Think. Had the Libertarian done better today, you would have Sink in Congress tonight. Does that strike you as a good thing?

43 posted on 03/11/2014 7:56:50 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( The Republican Party is in Hospice Care. Hold all contributions.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

What “two party” system? The “hard right” party of W that brought us No Child Left Behind, expansion of Medicare, debtzilla a near collapse of the financial markets and almost amnesty? And I liked/voted W, but let’s be real. Today, we have hardcore leftists, and those that pretend not to be leftists, save a small minority in the House and a few Senators. The “two party” system has failed us, including the millenials. My kids’ generation (early 20’s) don’t want anything to do with establishment Rs. They are conservative and tired of McCain, Romney, Graham, Ryan, Cantor, Boehner, etc., etc. Time the Rs figure out how to take some of the Libertarian ideas and run with them...you know, the ones like freedom, liberty, smaller government, less taxes and restrictions.


44 posted on 03/11/2014 8:49:16 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: SeekAndFind

Fairy well?


45 posted on 03/11/2014 9:46:10 PM PDT by CPO retired
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To: Kenny Bunk
Yes, we agree.

High white turn out, low non-white turn out is traditional in off year elections.

Also, whites have the highest voter eligibility, usually close to 80%.

Hispanics often have less than 40% eligible voters, usually because of citizenship and age issues.

Blacks have around 70% eligibility.

I will speculate that felony convictions play a significant part in that number.

46 posted on 03/11/2014 9:51:03 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: SeekAndFind

The fact is Jolly will never, ever vote against ACA, will he?


47 posted on 03/12/2014 12:40:26 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Kenny Bunk

you seem to think the RINOs aren’t progressives. they are.

the RINOs along with the GOPe and a majority of the GOP are pro big govt... just like the entire left.

you want the votes of libertarians? then start adhering to the founding concepts of the republican party. mainly, small, de-centralized govt is the best govt.

until then... they’re all the same. working to expand their little empires of other people’s money


48 posted on 03/12/2014 4:49:34 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: ansel12

by definition, libertarians require small govt.

if you think otherwise, you’re misinformed.


49 posted on 03/12/2014 4:51:16 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Viennacon

NOT a “lean Democrat” district. Obamacare was on the ballot, remember? And NOBODY is indifferent on that monstrosity.


50 posted on 03/12/2014 5:35:25 AM PDT by alloysteel (Obamacare - Death and Taxes now available online. One-stop shopping at its best!)
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