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How curbing climate change can prevent Russia from becoming a superpower
Los Angeles Times ^ | March 12, 2014 | By Matthew Fleischer

Posted on 03/12/2014 7:52:27 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

--BIG SNIP-- Putin has said that "two or three degrees" of climate change could be good for Russia, in that it would reduce heating costs and increase crop yields.

Of course Russia will face harsh consequences from global warming as well. Wildfires and drought have hit the country hard in recent years -- trends that will likely only worsen as the planet continues to heat up.

So for all you out there blasé about climate change, you may want to take a long hard look at your position -- because it doesn’t take that much effort to see a post-global warming Russia emerging as an unchecked superpower.

America has done pretty well for itself under the current global climate. Doesn’t it make sense to do everything we can to preserve that trove of good fortune?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: climatechange; climatechangefraud; climategate; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; hoax; idiocy; journalism; media; putin
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This idiot apparently is being paid by the LAT to write this crap. Is it any wonder it's bankrupt.
1 posted on 03/12/2014 7:52:27 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
OMG.

The left is stark raving insane.

2 posted on 03/12/2014 7:55:28 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

are these guys nucking futs ?


3 posted on 03/12/2014 7:56:10 PM PDT by llevrok (F the government)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Max Fleischer makes way more sense than this fellow.


4 posted on 03/12/2014 7:56:24 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Lower the price of oil by $15 and it would curtail Russia’s plans significantly.


5 posted on 03/12/2014 7:56:25 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Everything you ever dreamed of will be destroyed by climate change.

Every wish you've ever desired will be granted if only you reject your denyist ways and join us.

Join us. Join us. Join us.

6 posted on 03/12/2014 7:56:40 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I always thought liberals were delusional, and this guy ‘picked up his pen’, so to speak, [well actually used his computer] and in one fell swoop verified everything I always knew I knew!!!

Leftist are so certain that they are superior thinkers to us mere conservatives, and yet, they have no common sense at all.


7 posted on 03/12/2014 7:58:00 PM PDT by Gumdrop (Q)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
LAT has decided as a matter of editorial policy to censor out any reference to skepticism about global warming. This is the fruits of that policy--idiocy run amok with no countervailing appeal to reality to restrain it.
8 posted on 03/12/2014 7:58:10 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; GOPsterinMA; cripplecreek; GeronL; GraceG; SevenofNine; Windflier; Norm Lenhart
OMG!

This is the definition of Cult.

You have to read this to believe it (facepalm)

9 posted on 03/12/2014 7:58:52 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Another example of AGW morons on parade.


10 posted on 03/12/2014 8:00:59 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Putin is probably right about a little global warming. It will make things nicer for Russia.


11 posted on 03/12/2014 8:01:42 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So if you’d only prevent something that doesn’t exist, Putin would play nice.


12 posted on 03/12/2014 8:02:27 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: HiTech RedNeck

He is not just probably right, he is completely correct. Global warming has been a net benefit worldwide (in the scientific studies they don’t tell you about) and will continue to be so in countries like Canada and Russia. It is unlikely that temperatures will go beyond the beneficial stage since they are rising very slowly and subject to external factors like solar activity.


13 posted on 03/12/2014 8:07:13 PM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: palmer

I’ve seen some worrying about whether melting permafrost would jack up temperatures far more due to methane. I am skeptical about that, as methane is also yummies for certain soil bacteria. The methane that gets left in the atmosphere may be much less than what gets liberated by melting permafrost.


14 posted on 03/12/2014 8:10:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Send us your entire paycheck. We’ll stop Global Warming and check The Bear, too.”

Leftists are stark raving lunatics.


15 posted on 03/12/2014 8:14:57 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I saw the title of the thread and figured it had to be a spoof, i.e. nobody could be that stupid in real life.....


16 posted on 03/12/2014 8:15:52 PM PDT by varmintman
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The permafrost will stop melting as Alaska continues to cool (over a decade) and Siberia levels off. It’s really only melting on momentum at the moment. Much of the methane is not in land-based permafrost but under the Arctic ocean and is protected by pressure and permanent cold just as it is in the Gulf of Mexico.


17 posted on 03/12/2014 8:17:41 PM PDT by palmer (There's someone in my lead but it's not me)
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To: KC_Lion

Having spent years dealing with Enviro/libs I assure you that isn’t ‘nuts’. To us? Yes. Starkers. To them? That is how they think about everything.

You have to understand something. People say it but no one truly believes. People need to stop pretending these people are sane somewhere deep down. They aren’t.

With each rising of the sun, history begins. Think about just how deep that goes. NOTHING said yesterday matters because that was yesterday and yesterday is a social construct.

Sounds crazy but they BELIEVE it.

Now when yesterday does not matter, neither does tomorrow. Because tomorrow never comes. So ANYTHING they say can come true “TOMORROW”.

Sounds crazy but they BELIEVE it.

God being a figment of right wing imagination and “we are the people we have been waiting for” are believed for a reason. The reason is that they believe each liberal to be a God. Proof? What is the logical conclusion of the lib commandment that “We each have our own truth and my truth is not yours”?

This IS liberalism. It is beyond a cult/cult behavior. They think they can, like the kid in the AI movie, pray to the blue Fairy, embodied in themselves, and their desires become “Their truth”.

Yes, it sounds completely nuts. Pick A N Y liberal idea/proclamation/desire and run it through the filter presented above and tell me with honesty that I am wrong.

NOTHING they say will ever surprise me. And if we keep empowering them to continue to the logical conclusion of their desires, we are going to be fertilizer for the soil nourishing Gaia.


18 posted on 03/12/2014 8:18:02 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’ve engaged a NASA higher up on Climate Change and haven’t decided yet whether or not to pursue the issue, but they are spewing the talking points without remorse and ignore anything that does not comply with their agenda as far as I can see.


19 posted on 03/12/2014 8:33:29 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They’ve gone over the edge.


20 posted on 03/12/2014 8:37:50 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: KC_Lion

You are so correct


21 posted on 03/12/2014 8:43:18 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: b4its2late

I get it. Global warming is so evil it is always bad except when it deliberately helps your enemy because yes it is that devious.


22 posted on 03/12/2014 8:43:29 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Shovel ready liberal solution:


23 posted on 03/12/2014 8:44:43 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Tell it to the thermonuclear furnace 98,000,000 miles from Earth. Old Sol doesn’t give a crap about climate change.


24 posted on 03/12/2014 8:52:57 PM PDT by dadgum (Overjoyed to be the Pariah.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You’ve got to read this!

Global Warming ping.


25 posted on 03/12/2014 8:59:41 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: All

Russia may become a super power?
Looks like they are pretty much in control for now Big boy!


26 posted on 03/12/2014 9:05:15 PM PDT by DocJhn
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Corrected Title:

“How curbing climate change can prevent Russia from becoming a superpower by 2499”


27 posted on 03/12/2014 9:05:28 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Norm Lenhart

A few yrs ago, there was a liberal clown who (seriously) urged a repeal of the Laws of Thermodynamics.


28 posted on 03/12/2014 9:32:19 PM PDT by gasport (Will operate for food.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Explain to me again how ram’s bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.


29 posted on 03/12/2014 9:39:56 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: gasport

I believe it.

Told this one recently but I used to work with a lib reporter that argued seriously that 1+1 did not have to =2. He went into Quantum mechanics to ‘prove’ it. This was not a Quantum mechanical discussion.

He did this in a filled newsroom and got real upset being challenged. Long story short, he went on to work for an east cost state pol...dem of course. The above was the most sane thing I think I ever heard him say. And that’s not an exaggeration.

They are literally clinically insane. And ultimately their insanity will start killing people openly and freely.


30 posted on 03/12/2014 9:43:12 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

The Khmer Rouge were greens.


31 posted on 03/12/2014 9:44:07 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Question begging alert.


32 posted on 03/12/2014 9:44:35 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Here is my formulation, and perhaps it fits in with what you’re saying, I’m not sure:
In a sane world, Theodore Roosevelt was correct when he stated that
"It is not the critic who counts . . . the credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena . . . who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds . . . 
But of course journalism consists of people who never enter the arena themselves, but only criticize and second guess those who do “strive to do the deeds” which are necessary for the public. Since they are critics only, not doers - and since they are free from internal competition because all major journalists are (ahem) associated via the AP - journalists take the opposite view to TR. They take, that is, the utterly cynical view that NOTHING ACTUALLY MATTERS except PR. If it isn’t in the papers or on TV - and they are in denial of the fact that Fox News is actually TV - that is, if they don’t say it, it isn’t real.

And of course, THEY SAY that people who are 100% committed to the cult of PR are “liberal” or “progressive” or “moderate” or “centrist” - even though those labels are utter nonsense. “Liberals” aren’t liberal, and don’t promote liberty. “Progressives” don’t believe in progress in any sense that would have been recognized by the authors of the Constitution which explicitly empowers Congress “to promote the progress of science and useful arts.” And “moderates” and “centrists” are flat-out radicals. Any one of whom could become an “objective” journalist without changing his/her attitude one iota. Just as George Stephanopolis did.


33 posted on 03/12/2014 9:45:13 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: gasport

Oh...ANOTHER lib reporter I worked with often said he had no problem with old people dying off ASAP, including his grandparents because they cost too much and wreck the lives of their children.

He was not kidding either. I have rarely seen anyone so self centered.


34 posted on 03/12/2014 9:47:28 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

“Liberals” aren’t liberal, and don’t promote liberty. “

I’d say you pretty much nailed it.


35 posted on 03/12/2014 9:51:01 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: dead
Everything you ever dreamed of will be destroyed by climate change.

The only thing Global Warming seems unable to do is warm the planet.

36 posted on 03/12/2014 9:53:26 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Norm Lenhart

Good read-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malignant_narcissism


37 posted on 03/12/2014 9:53:50 PM PDT by gasport (Will operate for food.)
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To: gasport

Yup. Have refereed people to it often ;)

It pretty much describes the liberal leadership perfectly, but the Beta useful idiots all have it to one degree or another as well. But like I said, people refuse to believe their online friend, their next door neighbor or their brother/sister/father/mother is ‘really’ like that.

Some are EXACTLY like that. And until we admit the truth of it (as with all things really) we are going to suffer the effects of it eventually. Because if we keep committing category error with them, we are going to pay dearly.


38 posted on 03/12/2014 10:00:06 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What will they think of next!
39 posted on 03/12/2014 10:07:42 PM PDT by vigilante2 (Re-elect nobody)
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To: Norm Lenhart
NOTHING they say will ever surprise me. And if we keep empowering them to continue to the logical conclusion of their desires, we are going to be fertilizer for the soil nourishing Gaia.

If the environmental NAZIs are right about global warming, and they are not right. The only way to stop their envisioned cataclysm would be a massive depopulation of the earth via starvation and disease. If you look at the core of the environmentalists this is what they want but will not say it.

If you look at the geologic history of the earth, it flourished in times of global warming. In times of great glaciation life was hard and many species died. Global warming is good. Ice Ages are bad.

Geologically speaking the normal climate of earth is an Ice Age with brief inter glacial periods of warming which we now enjoy.

Pray for global warming but if geologic history is correct we are on the brink of a new but very normal cooling that will result in the new and very normal ice age.

PS According to Murphy, if it can go wrong it will go wrong. Murphy's second law says, if it can go wrong it will go wrong in the worst possible order, as it did with the Chernobly disaster. Most people are not aware of Murphy's corollary, which is "MOTHER NATURE IS A NATURAL BORN BITCH."

40 posted on 03/12/2014 10:44:57 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: cpdiii

Look up the UN/Sierra Club approved “Wildlands Project/Turtle Island.” It falls under the Agenda 21 documents. Massive depop is a big part of the plan. The official UN approved plan. They don’t hide it. It’s been publicly available for over a decade.

Around 1/4 mil (less actually) people for America is the target. As in ‘people. In less than 100 years. Now how do you suppose one meets that goal? Can’t abort fast enough without backlash....


41 posted on 03/12/2014 11:00:27 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
So, Russia would be happier with what they have and not need to expand south, for warm water ports and the like?

It might benefit Canada, too.

Hmm. Sure beats another Ice Age.

42 posted on 03/12/2014 11:17:14 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: palmer
Much of the methane is not in land-based permafrost but under the Arctic ocean and is protected by pressure and permanent cold just as it is in the Gulf of Mexico.

Yep. I'd wager that it is part of the planet's temperature regulation system. When ice caps form and sea level drops, so does the hydrostatic pressure where the Methane hydrates are, they boil off, and help trap solar energy, reversing the process (warming things back up).

43 posted on 03/12/2014 11:31:05 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Sociological Quandary That is My Mustache

MATTHEW FLEISCHER

44 posted on 03/13/2014 12:33:28 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wow. What will fuel Al Gore and The Bossy Fatpants’ private jets?


45 posted on 03/13/2014 1:46:24 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Fred Nerks

Why do these kooks get space in newspapers spouting utter insanity?


46 posted on 03/13/2014 1:49:21 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: palmer

The earth has cooled .36°F since 1997.

Where’s this “warming” people keep talking about?


47 posted on 03/13/2014 2:01:11 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: MrEdd

48 posted on 03/13/2014 10:36:07 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Start bicycling to work and Vlad Putin will never thaw out?


49 posted on 03/13/2014 10:42:20 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Let’s ignore all of the evidence to the contrary and assume for a nanosecond (for those leftists who went to public schools, that’s not very long) that global warming is occurring. Now, under their current definition of global warming, anything the religious zealots consider abnormal is caused by global warming, even if the abnormality is not all that abnormal (for instance, warmer than normal temperatures in a certain area or region, even though warmer temperatures have been recorded in the past, or more snow than normal in a certain area or region, even if more snow has been recored in the past, or fewer hurricanes than normal, even though fewer hurricanes have been recorded in the past, or more or stronger earthquakes than normal. even though more or stronger earthquakes have been recorded in the past).

So, the question is: If, according to the global warming religious zealots, anything can be attributed to global warming, how do you determine whether or not your efforts to curb the warming are effective???


50 posted on 03/13/2014 12:49:52 PM PDT by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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