Posted on 03/12/2014 8:25:27 PM PDT by ckilmer
| people would have done it by now. |
Now, this is a SOLAR plant, right?
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It doesn’t look like they’re converting solar power to electricity. Rather they’re heating a molton salt solution that vaporizes salt water. The steam is goes through a condenser and comes out as fresh water.
There’s a link up thread — to a sundrop farms green house project in Australia that uses solar thermal to desalinate water and heat green houses.
“Now, this is a SOLAR plant, right? “
If that’s really true, why is there a Natural Gas regulator and gas train attached to the equipment?
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If you read the articles and view the video of the sundrop farms green house experiment in australia, you’ll notice that they also have a back up oil generator. For times when the sun don’t shine.
Its not a complete solution as yet and won’t be until the gas/oil generators are no longer needed.
Corn needs about 1 acre foot of water to grow properly. Of course this is all dependent on soil type and environment and wind and temperature. If you can grow 150 bushels of corn under ideal conditions you are looking at $3.33 dollars of expense per bushel of corn in water that is produced by this method. This puts corn out of the question as a crop to be grown using this method of water production. The point is that this method is only viable for high value crops that need much less water.
I am not against this method of water production but one must always remember what it costs to do it, and what can you sell your crop for.
If you want to know how to utilize limited water resources in agriculture, go to Israel. They have little water and use what they have to the absolute max efficiency.
Huh? I'm not at all sure it's viable either. However, I will say this: at least there's no doubt that hot fusion exists. But anybody who says that fusion of any kind is a serious answer to California's near term water woes is delusional.
Interesting position. We should start a LFTR vs. LENR thread. But how do you stop all the skeptopaths from showing up? The simple fact is, the mods here are not educated enough in energy technology to handle such a thread. It would be needed to be done elsewhere.
It’s the bomb.
Even worse the reproducibility of this stuff is fitful at best. Nobody’s been able to come up with a consistent cold fusor, or even a theory why they can’t come up with a consistent cold fusor. We’re back at the level of alchemy, if even that good. Maybe someone didn’t arrange the chicken entrails the right way the previous night at dinner? I am facetious on purpose, but a science this ain’t. Yet.
Another obama pipe dream hoax.
“a 6,500-square foot system that is capable of producing around 10 gallons of freshwater a minute, or roughly 14,000 of freshwater each day.”
The above figure assumes the sun is shinning 23 hours a day: in reality solar only works well for about 8 hours a day. So, in reality, it’s going to take about a 20,000 square foot unit for 14,000 gallons a day. For an acre foot of water per day then, it will take a 47,000 square foot system.
The Carlsbad plant will produce 46,000 acre feet per day, which means the solar system will require 2,162,000,000 square feet of installation of panels, or 274 square miles of solar panels to equal the $1 billion Carlsbad plant. Anybody want to guess how many trillions of dollars it would cost to build 274 square miles of solar panels?
near term water woes
***Agreed. I’m talking longer term. Of course, for the last 150 years or so, California’s biggest political battles have been over water.
My favorite plan was to dam up the SF bay.
http://www.amazon.com/Simulation-Similarity-Understand-Studies-Philosophy/dp/0199933669
| How many times has the F-P Anomalous Heat Effect been replicated? |
Great if it is affordable. But I predict some three striped mud snail will be found in a runoff ditch and the enirostatists will shut it down.
We have 50 year old technology called nuclear power. We also have thousands of years old called reservoirs and canals.
“An average of 14 cells”
out of what... what does the statistical distribution actually look like...
At best, it looks like some maddeningly un-pin-downable thing. I’d say why not, out of the contents of every cell or whatever, save a pre-reaction sample. If it looks like it reacted, then analyze the sample. Or how about putting the samples of the successful cells together, and then you should get near 100% reliable reaction? It ain’t rocket science. But it does look like farting around.
As opposed too...?
It’s about thousands of experiments going from 45% reproducibility to 85% in 5 years. And others have gotten 100% reproducibility since this report.
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/library/2004/2004Krivit-The2004ColdFusionReport.pdf
Page 48.
“An average of 14 cells”
out of what...
***Dolly the Sheep was loudly proclaimed as a success and that was 1 out of more than 100,000 failures. LENR is past the 50% reproducibility mark and FReepers act as if that’s somehow scientifically invalid.
I think they did prove genetically that Dolly was what Dolly was claimed. That counted for a lot. You get heat. Heat from what? Artifact of processing the powder?
If some people are getting it near perfect that’s where the cutting edge research is. Wonderful. Everybody else ought to be imitating them.
Something needs to rule out physico-chemical effects though.
You get far, far more heat than can be accounted for by adding Deuterium gas to Palladium, or H1 atomic gas to Nickel. Like 3 or 4 orders of magnitude more heat. So all of this focus on error bars of 1% or milliwatts is a bunch of horse manure when the heat measured is ten thousand times more than that.
Eventually, that will be the case. But when you spend your time hunting big game, you tend to ignore rabbits.
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