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Did Flight 370 continue for four more hours in flight?
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Posted on 03/13/2014 11:13:25 AM PDT by chessplayer

The search for missing Malaysia Air Flight 370 may become a lot more complicated, if a new theory by American investigators turns out to be true. At first, the assumption was that the flight ended when the transponders stopped communicating; then military radar suggested the plane may have turned back and reached the other side of the Malaysian peninsula. Now data from engine transmissions to maintenance databases suggest the plane remained in operation for four hours after its last confirmed transmission — which makes the potential search range all but endless:


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KEYWORDS: iran; malaysia; mh370; waronterror
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To: chessplayer

If it did then it had to have help from one or both of the pilots. They would have known how to turn off the transponder and make the plane disappear electronically.


21 posted on 03/13/2014 11:38:58 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

How elaborate was that simulator?


22 posted on 03/13/2014 11:40:48 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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49,000+ does not looking out of the question.


23 posted on 03/13/2014 11:43:14 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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We don’t know ... so we don’t talk to much about it.


24 posted on 03/13/2014 11:44:11 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

Simulator photo

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/555515-zaharie-ahmad-shah-fariq-abdul-hamid-pilots-on-missing-mh370-flight-who-are-they/


25 posted on 03/13/2014 11:46:35 AM PDT by jimbo123
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I was talking with a friend of mine and he said, *It’s cuts, cut deep and we go down to size.*


26 posted on 03/13/2014 11:47:49 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: chessplayer

Planes carry enough fuel to reach their primary airport plus two alternatives; at night an extra 45 minutes of flight time plus the alternatives. No reason to burn fuel to carry fuel. With that in mind, what would have been the maximum range the plane could have flown? Without looking back for information I think I remember it was a 777-200ER (ER= extended range) - so you still have to calculate the fuel load and how far it could have gone. Then of course where. If it was a hijack at the very least a 12,000ft rwy somewhere in a jungle had to have been built and those are very distinctive even being carved out of dirt.


27 posted on 03/13/2014 11:49:08 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice.)
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To: jimbo123

Tail Gate?


28 posted on 03/13/2014 11:49:41 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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I sense broken glass.


29 posted on 03/13/2014 11:52:50 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: chessplayer

This was also intriguing, from Drudge last night:

“In yet another twist to the mystery of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, a New Zealand oil rig worker has come forward to say he believes he saw the airplane on fire right around the time it disappeared.

Mike McKay, a worker on the “Songa Mercur” drilling platform in the South China Sea, sent an email to his bosses detailing his version of events.
He said he “observed the plane burning at high altitude...in one piece” about 50-70km from his location, Business Insider reported.
He gave coordinates for the location of the rig, which recently moved from Cuba to the shores of Vietnam.
McKay’s employer confirms that the letter, posted online by several news outlets on Thursday, is authentic.

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/13/Missing-MH370-Oil-Rig-Worker/


30 posted on 03/13/2014 11:54:03 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Here’s some info:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngoglia/2014/03/13/aircraft-engine-monitoring-how-it-works-and-how-it-could-help-malaysia-air-370-crash-investigtors/

My SIL works in engineering for RR but he hasn’t responded today to my request for a briefing...


31 posted on 03/13/2014 11:57:45 AM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: The_Victor

Isn’t it possible that just one of those phones have the GPS enabled?


If the phone is receiving a signal, a tower is logging where it is. The tower is, at the very least, logging that it is the one being pinged by the phone. If three towers are getting any ping at all, the phone company knows where the phone is within a few feet.


32 posted on 03/13/2014 11:59:02 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Bon of Babble

Yesterday another FReeper posted a link to a website that showed the drill rig with that name to be located in the Caribbean. Wonder how that all synchs up?


33 posted on 03/13/2014 11:59:11 AM PDT by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: nascarnation

the waiting is the hardest part.


34 posted on 03/13/2014 11:59:57 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: nascarnation
It's getting curiouser and curiouser!

That's one hell of a sick prank if the guy was, indeed, located in the Caribbean - the report said the drilling rig is portable and has been towed around, but lately it had been off the Vietnamese coast, the employer confirms this:

Drudge still has the link up:

McKay's employer confirms that the letter, posted online by several news outlets on Thursday, is authentic.

McKay, who carries a New Zealand passport, said that he tried to contact Malaysian and Vietnam officials about what he saw "several days ago", adding that he had received no confirmation that they got his message.

"I believe I saw the Malaysian Airlines plane come down. The timing is right," McKay said in the email.

"I observed (the plane?) burning at high altitude.

"While I observed the burning (plane) it appeared to be in ONE piece." "From when I first saw the burning (plane) until the flames went out (still at high altitude) was 10-15 seconds.

“There was no lateral movement, so it was either coming toward our location, stationary (falling) or going away from our location," he wrote. Vietnamese officials confirmed to ABC News that they had received the letter. But they found nothing in the water at the location specified by McKay.

Given the apparent location of the rig, and the original flight path of MH370, it is possible that McKay is correct, the report said.

I tend to believe what another poster said: They already know where it is...

35 posted on 03/13/2014 12:06:31 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (Don't want to brag...but I can still fit into the earrings I wore in high school!!)
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To: The_Victor
Family members have already said that cell phones are working but go unanswered. Isn't it possible that just one of those phones have the GPS enabled?

Obviously, they're wrong.

If family members were right, however, GPS would be irrelevant, since the phones would have to be close to the tower with which they registered. And this mystery would be long over, assuming the telco knows where its towers are.

36 posted on 03/13/2014 12:07:29 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Blueflag

When my wife’s phone is turned off or she is not in range of a tower, a call to her phone goes directly to voice mail. If I get a ring, it means he phone is attached to the system “somewhere”. BTW, I used to work for Law Enforcement Relations with one of the big Cell companies based in Seattle that likes Magenta. But that’s all I’m saying...

And yes, when visiting our offices that had the capability, they were able to pinpoint the phone in my pocket to within less than ten feet.


37 posted on 03/13/2014 12:08:37 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

GPS


38 posted on 03/13/2014 12:11:50 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

GPS


Not in this case. I turned it off. The whole reason we were doing it was they were demonstrating for me just how accurate the triangulation can get. I was impressed.


39 posted on 03/13/2014 12:13:12 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

It was a beautiful day.


40 posted on 03/13/2014 12:14:26 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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