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A Conservative Case for Marriage Equality and Zots
The Princeton Tory ^ | February 11, 2014 | Evan Draim

Posted on 03/13/2014 3:56:08 PM PDT by Aqua Buddhist

Within a few days, a federal district judge in my home-state of Virginia will likely rule on the constitutionality of the commonwealth’s Marshall-Newman Amendment, which only permits marriage between one man and one woman. Frankly, as a conservative Republican and as a Christian, I hope that the amendment is struck down.

Republicans value marriage so highly because it encourages people to live according to conservative values. For instance, by enabling two people to share resources, marriage makes couples more financially secure, thereby reducing their dependence on government. In addition, marriage binds people into permanent, monogamous relationships, enabling couples to more effectively raise children. Although gay couples cannot reproduce, today there exist multiple other ways for same-sex couples to acquire offspring, such as in-vitro fertilization or adoption (which is often cited by the pro-life movement as a viable alternative to abortion). Numerous studies have confirmed that gay parents are just as capable as heterosexual ones. The benefits of marriage exist regardless of a couple’s sexual orientation, and therefore conservatives have an interest in ensuring that as many couples as possible enter the institution, whether heterosexual or homosexual.

Due to the separation of church and state, Christian doctrine cannot explicitly guide any court opinion, but faith no doubt motivates many people’s core principles and underlying values. As Christians, we are taught to “love our neighbors as ourselves.” Since you most likely want the ability to gain the benefits of marriage for yourself and enter into an expression of commitment with the one whom you love, I believe it is inherently un-Christian to deny other adults that privilege. Also, we are all creatures of God- whether gay or straight- and God does not make mistakes. By denying certain individuals the ability to marry their loved ones, you are telling them that their relationship (and, by extension, their sexual orientation) is somehow inferior or “not as good” as your own. Not only does the government lack the authority to make or enforce such a claim, but by condemning someone’s God-given traits, that sentiment also criticizes the actions of their divine Creator.

Admittedly, marriage today is threatened- not by the gay couples trying to get INTO the institution, but rather by the straight couples opting OUT. Only 51% of Americans are married, compared with 72% in 1960. Luckily, same-sex partners can actually help save the institution of marriage by making it relevant again and reversing a downward trend in marriage rates. I hope my fellow Virginians will join me in supporting this necessary step to guarantee human rights and save the future of marriage for future generations.

Virginia should be for ALL lovers.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 10micronmind; 2stupid2live; conservatism; equality; evandraim; homosexualagenda; marriage; retread; tardedsubject; ursulathevk; virginia; zot; zotbait
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To: Aqua Buddhist

It sounds like the conservative argument for socialized medicine and carbon credits. Real conservatives don’t make those arguments.
Where in the Constitution does it forbid Christian based moral laws? Secularism is a religion as well.


21 posted on 03/13/2014 4:09:28 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

Lots of non sequiturs, errors, and wrong.

As a particular is “Numerous studies have confirmed that gay parents are just as capable as heterosexual ones. “. If you actually look at what is compared to what, then what you see the predominance of studies purporting to say that actually say is that rich white lesbians in a supportive community do no better than Randomized minority single mothers...which is to say that they do MUCH poorer than do children of married heterosexual parents.


22 posted on 03/13/2014 4:09:59 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

I smell bullshite.Go back to du.


23 posted on 03/13/2014 4:10:04 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

I understand you hate Rand Paul, but isn’t that kind of juvenile?


24 posted on 03/13/2014 4:10:27 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Aqua Buddhist

Typical manipulative and twisted reasoning. I’m not surprised but I am still amazed at the extent that homosexual activists go try gain our approval for their perverted behaviors.

They won’t settle for tolerance. They won’t stand for our simple acceptance. They will continue to hammer normalcy until we embrace their sick & depraved lifestyle.

The most despicable aspect of this is to suggest that it’s okay to put children in the midst of their cesspool.


25 posted on 03/13/2014 4:10:49 PM PDT by ne1410s (2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine.)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

“Numerous studies have confirmed that gay parents are just as capable as heterosexual ones”

WRONG.

Numerous studies have confirmed that when both parents are homosexuals the children grow up without a MOTHER. Numerous studies have confirmed that when both parents are lesbians the children are FATHERLESS.

Poor kids.


26 posted on 03/13/2014 4:11:15 PM PDT by heye2monn (MO)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

As Christians, we are taught to “love our neighbors as ourselves.” Since you most likely want the ability to gain the benefits of marriage for yourself and enter into an expression of commitment with the one whom you love, I believe it is inherently un-Christian to deny other adults that privilege. Also, we are all creatures of God- whether gay or straight- and God does not make mistakes


Right here above false theology. God created marriage to be between one man and one woman. Jesus loved the sinner so much he told them to sin no more. Jesus never went to celebrate the adulterous woman’s next marriage John 4(kjv).

And heterosexuals don’t go around suing bakers for not helping them celebrate their ceremony


27 posted on 03/13/2014 4:11:23 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Aqua Buddhist

Good luck with that....
IBTZ


28 posted on 03/13/2014 4:11:25 PM PDT by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: nickcarraway
Why don’t you actually read the research, instead of just parroting what big business and the government tell you?

I take the government with a big grain of salt -- but I pay more attention to big business (they didn't get to be big by being dumb).

29 posted on 03/13/2014 4:11:25 PM PDT by Aqua Buddhist ("If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism." --R. Reagan)
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To: nickcarraway
I understand you hate Rand Paul, but isn’t that kind of juvenile?

On the contrary -- that particular attack, such as it was, was idiotic, and I chose my username for the purpose of mocking the Democrats who came up with it.

30 posted on 03/13/2014 4:13:10 PM PDT by Aqua Buddhist ("If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism." --R. Reagan)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

The “gay sideshow” is an assault on Christianity. Gays don’t want to be married. They want to force society to approve of their evil & disgusting behavior. There is nothing ‘natural’ about sticking your penis in another man’s butt. It is a repulsive perversion, not an equally admirable act to marrying and staying married and raising a new generation of citizens.

“Gay rights”, at their root, are about taking away from Christians the right to obey God. It is a weapon to attack Christians, and use the force of government to make Christians pretend that homosexuality is not a disgusting sin.


31 posted on 03/13/2014 4:13:30 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

there is no case for something that is just made up


32 posted on 03/13/2014 4:13:46 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

That argument forgets the aspect of the mutual bonding of heterosexual acts which change the whole beings of both man and women to the benefit of the husband and wife, the childten and society at large. Those effects can never be even approached by two people with the same body soul and spirit no matter how much they love each other.

Further. real love for children recognizes their right to heterosexual, biological parents and all the natural effects mentioned, a right that should not be violated by the voluntary acts of any of we adults.


33 posted on 03/13/2014 4:14:35 PM PDT by amihow
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To: crazyhorse691

bump


34 posted on 03/13/2014 4:14:57 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

Hmmm. You picked the most insulting possible term for Rand Paul and you want me to believe you like him? Would you tell Rand Paul that name to his face? Would you have me believe that all the Freepers with names that insult Clinton and Obama are fans of them?


35 posted on 03/13/2014 4:15:15 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Aqua Buddhist

Ooo wee. Pro queer marriage AND anti big business?

Nice (not) knowing you.


36 posted on 03/13/2014 4:15:41 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

You even lie with your tagline. Troll.


37 posted on 03/13/2014 4:17:05 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Aqua Buddhist

Not sure about your terminology, but do you know why marriage declined? Start with no fault divorce laws. Marriage is a contract, and the government decided to stop enforcing it. Throw in birth control and abortion. So the people pushing samesex marriage pushed those things.


38 posted on 03/13/2014 4:17:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Responsibility2nd
You even lie with your tagline.

Say what? It's a particularly insightful direct quote from one of the most insightful leaders of our time.

39 posted on 03/13/2014 4:20:57 PM PDT by Aqua Buddhist ("If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism." --R. Reagan)
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To: Aqua Buddhist
As Christians, we are taught to “love our neighbors as ourselves.”

Yes, but not their sins. There is nothing Christian about same-sex "marriage", which flies in the face of God's word in Scriptures that have already been well documented. This was written by someone who may have read Mark 12:31 but understands neither Christ's mission nor His purpose.

Christ came to save the homosexual, and all sinners, from perdition and damnation. He did not come to endorse their sin.

40 posted on 03/13/2014 4:22:37 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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