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CNN Exclusive: Analysis shows 2nd possible Indian Ocean path for Malaysia airliner (Likely crash)
CNN ^ | 03/14/2014 | By Barbara Starr. Michael Pearson and Jethro Mullen

Posted on 03/14/2014 2:39:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

A classified analysis of electronic and satellite data, conducted by the United States and Malaysian governments, calculates Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 likely crashed into the Indian Ocean on one of two possible flight paths, CNN has learned.

One flight path suggests the plane crashed into the Bay of Bengal off the coast of India, and the other has it traveling southeast and crashing in the Indian Ocean, according to the analysis.

Yet another theory is taking shape about what might have happened to missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370: Maybe it landed in a remote Indian Ocean island chain.

The suggestion -- and it's only that at this point -- is based on analysis of radar data revealed Friday by Reuters suggesting that the plane wasn't just blindly flying northwest from Malaysia. And it's just one of untold theories floating around about what might have happened to the airliner, which disappeared a week ago without leaving much of a trace of where it had gone or why.

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1 posted on 03/14/2014 2:39:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Folks gonna look real silly when they find the 777 in the park that was Meigs Field


2 posted on 03/14/2014 2:40:49 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe it was intercepted in mid air by another ROP controlled aircraft, they get very close and swap transponder signals, 777 then proceeds on the flight path of the other jet while the other goes silent and down to the deck.


3 posted on 03/14/2014 2:42:26 PM PDT by Spartan302
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To: SeekAndFind

I just don’t see why hijackers would have taken the plane just to crash it in the Indian Ocean..they had every opportunity to crash it into the China Sea..what is so special about the Indian Ocean that they had to crash it there, for what, so that it would never be found and to torture these families even more. I dont buy it


4 posted on 03/14/2014 2:44:19 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Spartan302

Currently in Hangar 51 overlooking the grassy knoll


5 posted on 03/14/2014 2:44:27 PM PDT by mason-dixon (As Mason said to Dixon, you have to draw the line somewhere.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Its on planet Zoreon. The Zoreons heard that there were a bunch of Zoreons on board, so they grabbed it and took it to their planet. They have now found out that it had Goreons on it, and are now trying to decide what in the hell to do with it.

Deal with it Zoreons!


6 posted on 03/14/2014 2:50:43 PM PDT by crz
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To: Sarah Barracuda

RE: I just don’t see why hijackers would have taken the plane just to crash it in the Indian Ocean..they had every opportunity to crash it into the China Sea.

Well, they probably wanted to go to a place that required them to cross the Indian Ocean ( Mogadishu?), however, they overestimated the amount of fuel the plane had to get there.

The plane then, unfortunately crashed because it did not have enough fuel to get to its intended destination.


7 posted on 03/14/2014 2:50:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: mason-dixon

8 posted on 03/14/2014 2:52:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah but they were flying for 4-5 hours after contact was lost..they couldn’t locate where they needed to go? They had no problem hijacking a plane but couldn’t find the place that they needed to land in..doesn’t sound right


9 posted on 03/14/2014 2:52:22 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“I just don’t see why hijackers would have taken the plane just to crash it in the Indian Ocean..they had every opportunity to crash it into the China Sea.”

.Why indeed. Perhaps the investigators are asking themselves the same question. The answer — or non-answer —might be important.

I found a report on a 777 aborting a takeoff because of a failed RollsRoyce engine fan blade. Had this happened midair, the flight would have gone down eventually, one would think. Perhaps something like this cut off other essential parts of the plane like oxygen, while still flying. Which leads back to the decompression theory many tech-savvy posters have discussed here.

https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/33974/tr200100445_001.pdf


10 posted on 03/14/2014 3:01:05 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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Just watched an INCREDIBLE simulated landing of a 777 on an island runway done on CNN--Fox News Catherine Herridge has GREAT info--Shep Smith also good.

Freepers might want to tune into both Fox and CNN, to hear whats up!!

11 posted on 03/14/2014 3:02:19 PM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Hey, dat ship's leaving us. We can't catch it!"

"I know! Let's go gets us a airplane and ransom it."


12 posted on 03/14/2014 3:04:47 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t buy the notion that it was commandeered and landed at a hidden airfield somewhere. That would be far too risky in terms of detection and make their mission very unlikely to succeed. The hijackers would know that the moment authorities realize the plane had been hijacked there would be fighter jets scrambled after them from every nearby air force and satellites searching for them.

Because the clock would be ticking until they were spotted by a nearby country, hijackers taking control of the plane would head directly for their target and try to crash it on their target as soon as possible, in order to minimize the time for air forces to intercept them.

I would guess that the aircraft was hijacked by muzzie terrorists and they began to proceed directly to their intended target in order to crash the plane into it.

Why were they headed in the direction of India? Muzzie terrorists would not crash it into a muslim city like Kuala Lumpur. Their greatest enemies are the US and India.

The flight path suggests they were headed to India. They would love to strike New Delhi or some other Indian city. Their plan may have been to follow the typical flight corridor used by airliners and then veer off and crash it into New Delhi. Other targets might be Bangalore or Hyderabad.

However, it appears that the hijackers did not knew about the aircraft periodically automatically pinging satellites. If they did know about it, then obviously they would have disabled it hours earlier when they shut off the transponder.

Therefore, we can conclude that the plane likely never made it beyond the flying radius from the last ping heard to when the next ping would have been heard. If the pings come every hour, then the plane crashed or landed within an hour of the last ping. This would eliminate possibilities such as flying on to Iran or Pakistan.

Why did they not make it to their target? Perhaps as they were approaching radar distance from India, the terrorists lowered the altitude to just over the water but ended up crashing into the sea, or the passengers realized what was happening and stormed the cockpit.


13 posted on 03/14/2014 3:16:45 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: SeekAndFind

Eventually, pieces of this plane will begin to wash up on the shores of Vietnam, Malaysia, and Thailand.


14 posted on 03/14/2014 3:18:57 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Langoliers... just sayin'.

15 posted on 03/14/2014 3:20:10 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Veto!

I think, with the crazy ways the plane was flying, different altitudes, that whoever had control over the plane was a decent flyer but not an expert..it would have been like me controlling plane, would have looked like someone drunk was doing it since I have no idea how to fly an aircraft, one second its 45,000 feet(For what purpose it was that high I have NO idea) then down to 30,000, then down to 25,000 and back up again..I think if it was the pilot doing that there would not have been a time lapse in turning off the transponders, they both would have been turned off at the same time, not one then 14 minutes another one


16 posted on 03/14/2014 3:22:11 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: crz
It was MING!


17 posted on 03/14/2014 3:24:11 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Contrary To Ordinary)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Too much Stephen King :)


18 posted on 03/14/2014 3:24:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: jaz.357

Have they really discovered Planet Mongo? And how did Ming learn to speak English?


19 posted on 03/14/2014 3:24:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: jaz.357

AH HA!!!! How much of a reward?


20 posted on 03/14/2014 3:26:05 PM PDT by crz
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To: Sarah Barracuda

The entire thing is senseless. If it was a pilot suicide, you take it down during the flight route. If it is a terrorist attack to kill all on board they would announce it to the world. Either scenario, there is no reason to turn communications and systems off.


21 posted on 03/14/2014 3:27:05 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: wonkowasright

LOL! I used to fly from there when I played FS long ago!


22 posted on 03/14/2014 3:27:36 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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23 posted on 03/14/2014 3:28:36 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: SeekAndFind
And how did Ming learn to speak English?

Science!


24 posted on 03/14/2014 3:31:23 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Contrary To Ordinary)
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To: Toespi

I agree..and if it was pilot suicide why continue to fly it into the Indian Ocean..does it really make a difference to a suicidal person where they off themselves..the China Sea was right there, could have been done, no need to fly an additional four to five hours for no reason..for what, to think about it? And if some hijacker from the plane decided to get into the cockpit and hijack the plane the pilots would have put in the hijacking code, and how the heck does a person get into a cockpit nowadays anyway, especially after 9/11 its impossible
Also another question, I know that sometimes you have air marshals on planes..not for every plane but I always hear from people “You never know if the person sitting next to you is an air marshal” I wonder what the likelihood was of an air marshal being on board this plane


25 posted on 03/14/2014 3:34:11 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Toespi
The entire thing is senseless.

Why is it senseless for muslim terrorists to take control of an aircraft and head for a target in India to pull off an Indian 9/11?

A lot of Americans may not realize it, but muslim terrorists have been basically at war with the Indian government for many years.

26 posted on 03/14/2014 3:36:54 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Meet the New Boss

Over 1000 years.


27 posted on 03/14/2014 3:42:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: SeekAndFind

It could have been headed either for Burj Khalifa or Bombay


28 posted on 03/14/2014 3:44:29 PM PDT by Maurya (Dominant then, Dominant again)
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To: SeekAndFind
"One flight path suggests the plane crashed into the Bay of Bengal off the coast of India, and the other has it traveling southeast and crashing in the Indian Ocean,according to the analysis."

Perhaps the hijackers had no better sense of directions than a CNN reporter.

29 posted on 03/14/2014 3:48:17 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Not sure I approve of the way they make a living, but their wardrobe is great!


30 posted on 03/14/2014 3:52:12 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Yes, your theory makes sense. I don’t know whether mechanical or electronic glitch would produce the up/down syndrome as pilot fought to control the plane. But then, he would have contacted flight control, one would think. And would not have turned off transponder.

I don’t know why I’m reluctant to believe the plane was hijacked.


31 posted on 03/14/2014 3:56:54 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: SeekAndFind

One thing we can all agree on is that Malaysia looks increasingly like a 3rd world banana-republic.


32 posted on 03/14/2014 4:01:06 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Meet the New Boss
... lowered the altitude to just over the water but ended up crashing into the sea, or the passengers realized what was happening and stormed the cockpit.

I read that flying low takes up much more fuel, which would mean they'd crash into the sea wherever they ran out.

33 posted on 03/14/2014 4:01:41 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: ArmstedFragg

The strange thing is their clothes and accessories didn’t raise any suspicion in the boarding area. Although a few other passengers did complain about the smell.


34 posted on 03/14/2014 4:04:02 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Veto!

According to the news reports (yeah I know) the last satellite ping over the Indian ocean had the aircraft at normal cruising altitude.

I would expect the terrorists pilot would not try to fly low to the water until it was necessary to do so when were close to Indian coast and within range of any Indian air traffic radar.


35 posted on 03/14/2014 4:05:11 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Okay, I think the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 has landed and refueled and is headed for Iran.
The ELTs never went off, or else there'd be a LAT/LONG location from the satellites monitoring the ELTs.

From the news from Fox about the updates and "Handshakes" from Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, based on the chart graphics showing their "handshakes" suggesting it departing northwest ontowards Iran.
The "handshakes" probably stopped due to poor coverage or landing at a desert location to refuel.
36 posted on 03/14/2014 4:06:52 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Veto!

An ELT on the aircraft should have automatically switched on in the event of a crash whether on land or water. That didn’t happen so a crash most likely didn’t happen.


37 posted on 03/14/2014 4:09:59 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Yosemitest

They could have landed at any airport within Iran and most likely it would have been a military one or one with very little activity able to support that size aircraft.


38 posted on 03/14/2014 4:13:32 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: jaz.357

Flash! Ah, ah..


39 posted on 03/14/2014 4:24:45 PM PDT by nvskibum
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To: SeekAndFind
Scenario 1: Suicide

Things were bad at home with one of the two pilots --he was losing his spouse and his kids. Maybe he also has some professional problems with the airline --impending job loss?

He kills the other pilot, then depressurizes the plane to knock out all the passengers. He briefly hears a banging on the cockpit door, but it subsides after 1 minute, then stops totally: the widely-imagined battle royal for survival by the passengers is a non-event. He shuts down both transponders and all comms.

He flies on, on oxygen, contemplating his life, the passengers meanwhile dying from oxygen deprivation. He turns the plane dramatically, beginning a suicidal dive, plunging 40,000 feet in just one minute, only to chicken out.

He flies on for hours, silently trying to summon up the courage to end it all. His indecision is overtaken by his fuel situation, and on vapors he finally slams into the ocean, knocking himself out and dying.

Scenario 2: Hijack

The two Lothario pilots invite the 2 most attractive women on the plane into the cockpit, the better to impress them with their studly technical skill. This habit of theirs had been previously noted by other more radical passengers and quietly passed up the command chain, who dispatched comely young women to "coincidentally" fly in their plane.

During their cockpit party the pilots are overcome by a sedative secreted into their drinks. The women unlock the cockpit door, later accessed by a completely calm and properly trained hijack pilot clicking a pen and holding a clip-board --as with the previous scenario there is no life-or-death fight with the passengers.

He throws aside his silly name-tage and clip-board and immediately depressurizes the plane --the passengers are knocked out and later die. The transponders are turned off, they dive for the deck and turn to their destination four hours away --a 4,000 foot airstrip controlled by their fellow believers.

Immediately upon touching down the spoilers are activated, they apply maximum brake pressure and hit the thrust reversers on the pair of massive engines --the plane lurches, strains and jostles, but rolls to a halt at the very edge of their makeshift runway.

Dented technicals --pickups packed with angry-looking armed men-- stream onto the strip, guiding the behemoth aircraft packed with suffocated passengers to a rocky crag, with burly, bearded men camouflaging the aircraft even as the engines spool down.

Non-minaturized nukes are heavy, and a re-painted civvy a/c like the 777 will make a perfect delivery platform at 3,000 feet on a clear day at 10:00 am over a major city, the better to teach the non-believers with Allah's blinding white flash.

40 posted on 03/14/2014 4:25:48 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: wonkowasright

I am waiting for Jerry Rivers to announce ...


41 posted on 03/14/2014 4:26:30 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Jack Hydrazine
It's my speculation that their intent is to use that aircraft in an attack against the United States, first, or Israel, second.
The cost in time and money for planning, training for, and implementing this theft, is extremely expensive.
These Muslim extremest, for them, numbers carry meaning, and a 777 aircraft will have special religious significance in thier attack.
42 posted on 03/14/2014 4:29:32 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“I think, with the crazy ways the plane was flying, different altitudes, that whoever had control over the plane was a decent flyer but not an expert..it would have been like me controlling plane, would have looked like someone drunk was doing it since I have no idea how to fly an aircraft, one second its 45,000 feet(For what purpose it was that high I have NO idea) then down to 30,000, then down to 25,000 and back up again..”

Where did you see this?


43 posted on 03/14/2014 4:29:49 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“I think, with the crazy ways the plane was flying, different altitudes, that whoever had control over the plane was a decent flyer but not an expert..it would have been like me controlling plane, would have looked like someone drunk was doing it since I have no idea how to fly an aircraft, one second its 45,000 feet(For what purpose it was that high I have NO idea) then down to 30,000, then down to 25,000 and back up again..”

Where did you see this?


44 posted on 03/14/2014 4:29:49 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: SeekAndFind

Check this out:

http://vietnam.craigslist.org/for/4372477162.html


45 posted on 03/14/2014 4:32:19 PM PDT by gandalftb (Go OK State Cowboys!!)
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To: TexasGator
From an experienced air traffic controller of more than 30 years.

The changing altitudes was to avoid being identified by other traffic, and since he's turned off his transponders (not the same as ELTs, which can not be turned off) he does NOT want to be noticed, and a descending or a climbing aircraft isn't seen as unusual.
After he passes the traffic he's concerned about, then he changes his altitude again, in a different direction from what his aircraft was headed to before passing the traffic he was concerned about.
46 posted on 03/14/2014 4:37:31 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Muzzies are smart by half. Reality always bites them.


47 posted on 03/14/2014 4:44:39 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: TexasGator

Heard it on CNN a few times already, it was in the New York Slimes, they are the ones that reported it, and if true, people in the cabin could not have been able to breathe at that high an altitude, the plane wasn’t designed for that purpose, they could not breathe, meanwhile those in the cockpit would have been able to breathe for as long as they needed..after hearing John Nance I Believe his name is on CNN, its beginning to make sense, kill off the passengers bringing up the plane to that crazy altitude, then continue on your way, it was the plane they wanted from the start


48 posted on 03/14/2014 4:47:34 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Yosemitest

At 45,000 feet, could the passengers still breathe or would it have made it impossible for them to breathe, even with the oxygen masks


49 posted on 03/14/2014 4:48:22 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Sarah Barracuda

The 777 is certified to 43,200 cruise altitude. I don’t think another couple of thousand feet would kill off the passengers.


50 posted on 03/14/2014 4:56:53 PM PDT by TexasGator
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