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Senators up pressure on Putin in Ukraine
The Hill ^ | 15 Mar 14 | Peter Schroeder

Posted on 03/15/2014 1:01:48 PM PDT by elhombrelibre

A delegation of U.S. senators looked to up pressure on Russian President Vladimir Putin Saturday, as tensions around Ukraine heightened.

A bipartisan group of eight senators traveling through Ukraine blasted the Russian leader, and called Sunday’s election on whether Crimea should join Russia rigged and illegitimate. Some of the senators called for the U.S. to provide military equipment to Ukrainian troops, and the group vowed crippling economic sanctions against Russia until the nation pulled back.

“This is the person that stated that the greatest catastrophe of the 20th century was the breakup of the Soviet Union,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) of Putin. “We have to treat him for what he is. That does not reignite the Cold War, but it means we enact steps that make it clear…that his ambitions will not be realized by the great community of nations that would resist him.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Russia
KEYWORDS: 113th; bhorussia; crimea; johnmccain; putin; russia; ukraine
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To: WhiskeyX

Does that include inciting the citizens of that country?


41 posted on 03/15/2014 4:07:25 PM PDT by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: dfwgator

“When was this “agreement” ratified by the Senate?”

President Clinton chose to negotiate the Budapest Memorandum 1994 as the format of the agreement, which is not a treaty and is not subject to a requirement for ratification by the U.S. Senate because it has no binding legal obligation to take action in the event of a breach of the agreement by the parties to the agreement. Instead, there is only a non-legal moral obligation to comply with the agreement, international law, and the authorization under the Budapest Articles of the International Law Association by which the signatory nations agreed there was a legal and moral obligation to provide military and diplomatic support to a nation subjected to aggression in breach of the Kellogg-Briand Pact and its prohibing wars of aggression under international law.

In other words, the obligation exists in prior treaties ratified by the U.S. Congress and the authorities those agreements granted to the enforcement of the Budapest Memorandum 1994 and other related international agreements.

Ukrainian Intelligence Opposed Signing of Budapest Agreement
http://www.voanews.com/content/ukrainian-intelligence-opposed-signing-of-budapest-agreement/1868759.html


42 posted on 03/15/2014 4:32:55 PM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: Ray76

“Does that include inciting the citizens of that country?”

Why are you not asking that question of Putin and his regime’s Russian and Ukrainian provocateurs who have tried for years to subvert the Ukrainian government, the Ukrainian economy, and provoke a Ukrainian civil war as a pretext for a Russian conquest of the Ukraine nation whose territorial integrity Russian agreed to respect in exchange for Ukrainian surrender of the world’s third largest nuclear weapons force in the world?

How do you expect to be taken seriously when you object to a few U.S. Senators exercising their right of free speech in pursuit of their lawful duties which provide for guaranteeing Ukrainian territorial integrity; while you manifestly fail to note the overwhelming massive efforts of the Putin regime to overthrow the Ukrainian control of their own government, homes, and lives?


43 posted on 03/15/2014 4:40:19 PM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: WhiskeyX

Anything Bill Clinton signed isn’t worth the piece of paper it’s signed on.


44 posted on 03/15/2014 4:41:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

“Anything Bill Clinton signed isn’t worth the piece of paper it’s signed on.”

The situation makes a person wonder if the Budapest Memorandum was deliberately negotiated by Bill Clinton in favor of Russia and the future ambitions of the retrenched Bolshevists?


45 posted on 03/15/2014 4:45:24 PM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: WhiskeyX
So are you a Globalist as well? or perhaps a Citizen of the World?...You sound like it when by stating what the UN guarantees. However...our involvement in other peoples country is NEVER about Freedom of the people....you can buy that if you want to...I do not.


46 posted on 03/15/2014 6:13:05 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Communists are another form of Globalists bent upon the totalitarian destructionn of individual freedoms the American Revolution and the U.S. Constitution were designed to suppress. The existence of the United Nations and the current state of internaitonal law are established facts that everyone has to contend with even though some of us are opposed to its depredations aginst the U.S. Constitution and the American Revolution’s spirit of reserving the powers of sovereignty to U.S. citizens insofar as they have not been delegated to the U.S. Congress or the States.

Your transparent attempts to link support of the Venezuelan people and their natural born himan rights to predatory oil diplomacy is phony, false, and more of the anti-American false propaganda conceived to divide American public opinion in favor of the Communist-socialist totalitarian regimes.


47 posted on 03/15/2014 6:24:50 PM PDT by WhiskeyX ( provides a system for registering complaints about unfair broadcasters and the ability to request a)
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To: WhiskeyX
....”more of the anti-American false propaganda conceived to divide American public opinion in favor of the Communist-socialist totalitarian regimes”....

That is not my intentions.....I am not for what Putin is doing, however I do understand why he is doing so. And we would do likewise if He was attempting to put Missiles on our back doorstep...which is the condition set for the US to assist Ukrainians with their revolution and their financial crisis.

These are certainly geo-politics playing out in Ukraine and have been a long time coming. I resent greatly that the USA interferes in certain nations for their wrong doing and this for the sake of principle,...then turns around and has no principles about the wrong doing of another nation and in fact supports and funds the very people who are creating the problems in the first place.

Our country interferes too often behind the thugs protesting.....even if those running the country may be thugs themselves....Syria's an example...Egypt and Libya...and others. It is wrong for us to incite and orchestrate these uprising....sit back and watch the violence and killings...and then come in and set up our chosen people to Govern...and walk away with the bank.

Look at Croatia today and others we “helped”....just like populations we will always have the poor or less prosperous ....so to with nations. But to purposely go into nations to control resources and control...I have a serious problem this is done by our country.

Putin will always be who he is.....and his PR campaign, though makes him attractive to his people, does not fool anyone else...however, the International Leaders have accepted him into their fold...as one might keep their enemy close....but the bear is still a bear just the same and we see that playing out...they underestimated him. He's doing only what is natural for him to do...and the US took the risk..the same as in Syria knowing full well they'd go up against Putin....and the Drums of War escalated....and now here we are again.

48 posted on 03/15/2014 7:15:16 PM PDT by caww
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To: WhiskeyX

A “few U.S. Senators exercising their right of free speech” is vastly different from conducting foreign policy - exclusively the domain of the Executive.


49 posted on 03/15/2014 10:26:22 PM PDT by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: WhiskeyX

In my opinion the duty is upon the Executive not the Legislative.


50 posted on 03/16/2014 12:14:04 AM PDT by Ray76 (How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
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To: No One Special
Putin plays the Great Game

Let's define what that means. It means Putin has a long term strategy. I believe he has an ultimate goal of destroying the United States.

Our bi-partisan goobers from the Senate and this administration have "an ultimate goal of destroying the United States."

Whether that is or is not what Putin wants, all he has to do is sit back and watch our "bi-partisan" destroyers do what they are already doing.

51 posted on 03/16/2014 12:25:05 AM PDT by meadsjn
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