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Large Scale Solar Energy Generation May Be Over As Soon As It Has Begun (Mojave Desert)
Earth Island ^ | 2/20/14 | Chris Clarke

Posted on 03/16/2014 7:48:16 AM PDT by Libloather

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To: Libloather

Gosh, what a surprise! When you concentrate large areas of sunlight, birds fly through it. Some one needs a federal grant to study this.


21 posted on 03/16/2014 8:21:19 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (for)
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To: Libloather
And if they can scale up the technology for the liquid fluoride thorium reactor (LFTR), that could put a LOT of solar and wind power plants out of business.

Unlike conventional pressurized water reactors (PWR's) that use uranium fuel rods, LFTR's use commonly-found thorium-232 dissolved in molten fluoride salts, essentially a liquid nuclear fuel. And it's far safer to operate and the nuclear waste generated is very small in amount with a radioactive half-life of under 300 years. Small wonder why there is now serious research into LFTR technology, since once perfected, we have a fuel source that could potentially last for tens of thousands of years (not only is thorium-232 common on Earth, but there may be huge deposits on the Moon, too).

22 posted on 03/16/2014 8:22:16 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Libloather
This sounds much worse than wind turbines, which had to get a waiver to kill eagles.

So much so, the wackos can't turn a blind eye to this one.

23 posted on 03/16/2014 8:22:47 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: Libloather

............well, LOL, I’m reminded here of the old saying “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. Knowing as I do that BIG SOLAR is a con mans orgasm, I am always opposed even to the discussion. But, for a moment I thought The Sierra nuts were going to oppose this boondoggle gift of trillions to the Dems to reward their corrupt and felonious hangers on. That would make me queasy having these Sierra loons on my side.

But, alas, no problem, the Sierra criminals, when push came to shove, sold their souls to the higher bidder and supported this boondoggle because no doubt they were cut a billion or two back to sit down and shut up!

I think AMERICA is just TOO BIG to effectively manage its corruptors anymore. The corruptors like Gore and Sierra and the Dems and MSM are just too powerful and effective at manipulating the LIV’s and putting corrupt criminals in house and senate seats (led by Boehner and Reid).

I think the ultimate solution that eventually will be forced upon us by CIRCUMSTANCES is to break up into many small parts unified only on DEFENSE. Like Detroit, just bulldoze DC except for Arlington Cemetery and the museums.


24 posted on 03/16/2014 8:23:34 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Libloather

The reason libs fail has a lot to do with their belief that the way things have been done is absolutely wrong and they have this need to reinvent the wheel. If they poured the same effort and money into improving the way things are done (producing power or many other things) at some point changes would indeed happen, but not the drastic sometimes bizarre overnight changes they seem to come up with as solutions.

Of course the other thing libs have learned along the way is if you throw large sums of money into things most don’t understand it makes it much easier to siphon of part/most/all of the money into various pockets.


25 posted on 03/16/2014 8:29:54 AM PDT by Tammy8
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To: Libloather

Looks like the huggers are fluxed again.


26 posted on 03/16/2014 8:32:02 AM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: KC_Lion

I’ll bet this one has a Tech named Fantastic, too.


27 posted on 03/16/2014 8:34:41 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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Looking at that photo, and the reflection over-shooting the tower (as seen on the hills behind), how soon until there is a brush fire started by this?

IMHO, I don't think that those are reflections from the hills behind, but are instead a distortion event from the heated air at the center point as seen in two dimensions. It probably is like a semi-halo around the focus from the solar orientation.

28 posted on 03/16/2014 8:38:17 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: TADSLOS
And I am sure he will be just a Competent too....

I'll bet everyone of the Greenies have a Theoretical Degree in Physics.

29 posted on 03/16/2014 8:38:31 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: T. P. Pole
Looking at that photo, and the reflection over-shooting the tower (as seen on the hills behind), how soon until there is a brush fire started by this?

That's what it looks like, but it's actually the mirrors focused near the collector, in an "off" state, where they can quickly be angled into the collector for the "on" state.

You're seeing the distant hills through a donut of superheated air and dust edge on.

30 posted on 03/16/2014 8:39:16 AM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: KC_Lion

LOL


31 posted on 03/16/2014 8:39:45 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: SES1066

Halo. That was the word I should have used.


32 posted on 03/16/2014 8:41:21 AM PDT by null and void ( Obama is Law-Less because Republican "leaders" are BALL-LESS!!)
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To: MNnice

“I’m looking forward to the day when each home can install and use a device to generate its own electrical power that provides all the energy a family would need, without relying on a “grid.””

That day is now! Just install a big ass generator and fill er up with diesel!


33 posted on 03/16/2014 8:50:12 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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--been past it several times since inception -

-I think that apparent reflection is a photo illusion---the "glow" when you drive by it appears to be right around the tower--it's a strange phenomenon to look at from the highway and doesn't appear to be on the hillside---

34 posted on 03/16/2014 8:54:59 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Libloather

Is this reflectivity why it’s so damn cold?


35 posted on 03/16/2014 8:55:38 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. H)
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Looking at that photo, and the reflection over-shooting the tower (as seen on the hills behind), how soon until there is a brush fire started by this?

I don't think that reflection is a over-shoot that misses the tower, its more likely dust caught in the "beam" that is reflecting light.

36 posted on 03/16/2014 9:03:23 AM PDT by ClaytonP
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To: Libloather

I recommend searching for Ivanpah on google maps. Its over three equare miles of solar panels...the scale of this boggles the mind.

How anyone could think this is more environmentally friendly than a standard power plant is beyond me. I can’t even fathom tbe energy required to make all those panels.


37 posted on 03/16/2014 9:16:17 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: G Larry

That is not true. There are millions of acres of fallow land where large scale solar can be installed and where the sun shines just as brightly. But it is not free BLM land.

The best solution however is to pass feed in tariffs that allow homeowners to be paid for the extra electricity they feed into the system. That is not presently allowed. Why?

Why should the utility company and companies like Bright Source be the only ones to profit off electricity generation. I won’t even ask for a government subsidy to install my solar system.

Your comments are wildly uniformed. They don’t oppose it all.


38 posted on 03/16/2014 9:17:39 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Libloather

Turn liberals into batteries like on Matrix.


39 posted on 03/16/2014 9:21:14 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (No one can come to me unless the Father who sent Me draws him.)
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To: MNnice

That ability exists but is expensive.

Natural gas powered generators would do nicely

ditto nuclear packages


40 posted on 03/16/2014 9:21:50 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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