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How will things change in Crimea if it joins Russia?
Washinton Post ^ | 3.15.2014 | Tiffany Harness

Posted on 03/16/2014 12:31:40 PM PDT by mac_truck

Let’s start with money matters. Who will pay the pensions of retirees who paid into the Ukrainian system?

Voters are being told that Russia will assume the obligations for all pensions, with a big leap in benefits. For example, the average monthly pension in Russia is said to be about $270, almost double the $150 paid in the average Ukrainian’s monthly pension. And the retirement age will drop by five years, to 60 for men and 55 for women.

And what about schools?

Schoolchildren are expected to get new history books with a more outsize section on Russian history and its version of events, such as World War II, which Russians and Crimeans refer to as the “Great Patriotic War.” Officials say that for the next year, at least, Crimeans will be allowed to enroll at Russian universities without taking an entrance exam. Next year, they will have to take the regular Russian enrollment exam.

Will people working in government offices, schools and hospitals lose their jobs?

Authorities have vowed that nobody who is doing satisfactory work will be fired, and most will get raises.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: constitution; crimea; crimeacrisis; crimeareferendum; putinsbuttboys; russia; secession; surrendermonkeys; ukraine; viktoryanukovich; yuliatymoshenko
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To: goldstategop

Voters were told.... Doesn’t mean it will happen. They can’t do nothing about it now.


41 posted on 03/16/2014 10:22:58 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ncalburt

Putin seems to give a lot of people a thrill up their leg, it sickens me.


42 posted on 03/16/2014 10:40:01 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: goldstategop

Russians in Crimea have long gone to Russia to work because of the vast wage differences.

The one thing I’ve read over and over again is Crimea wasn’t exactly treated well by the Ukranian Gov., no matter who was in office. So the Russians were more than happy to vote for Russian standards...

Gas 60% less in itself would be substantial savings to a family. And the military differences are astounding.

However, if the Ukrain’s can get their act together...years down the road, they MAY be in a better place themselves...but I tend to doubt it. All this money flowing from IMF, World Bank and the US etc. are LOANS. to Ukraines already bankrupt country. Unless business and industy go there few will do better as I see it ...even in the long run.

Most nations in that area under EU are not doing well at all after joining Nato etc....certainly not in the ways the people were led to believe would be.

As usual politicans and the Globalists talk big...follow through is another matter altogether.


43 posted on 03/17/2014 12:08:01 AM PDT by caww
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To: mac_truck

I’ve run into these guys as well on threads....when any ‘understand’ the situation in Ukraine and the steps Putin takes, right or wrong, they always call people Commies or Putin Boot Lickers and the like when they post anything other than what comes from MSM... God forbid if it comes from any other than that which supports their position.

It’s no secret the USA has focused on Putin bashing....everybody knows this. They do so because it shields them from what they’re doing and keeps people distracted from Obama’s agenda.

However, I do think those posting concerning the ‘details’ of Putins moves, with an understanding of how and why he works as he does,how he has in the past, and relates this to the moves he’s making now..... are worth the read.

It pays to have a broad understanding of both sides....if you can ignore the violence and thugs pulling things off in Ukraine, and all sides are using them....and instead look at the whole picture...you’re always better off..

Understanding Putins moves is not the same thing as supporting him...they don’t get that.


44 posted on 03/17/2014 12:22:26 AM PDT by caww
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>> if it joins Russia?

Is that an option?


45 posted on 03/17/2014 1:20:34 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: dalereed
If it helps destroy the European Union, great!

I agree Dale. European style socialism is on the march in the United States and poses a grave threat to our individual liberties.

46 posted on 03/17/2014 5:48:43 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: caww
Gas 60% less in itself would be substantial savings to a family.

Cheaper gas, better wages, better pensions, a flat tax on income...there's going to be a sharp contrast to the standard of living in Crimea opposed to Ukraine proper going forward. Not to mention the warmer weather and a more stable civil society.

47 posted on 03/17/2014 6:08:51 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck; caww

“Gas 60% less in itself would be substantial savings to a family.

‘Cheaper gas, better wages, better pensions, a flat tax on income...there’s going to be a sharp contrast to the standard of living in Crimea opposed to Ukraine proper going forward. Not to mention the warmer weather and a more stable civil society.”’

Putin will probably let the Ukraine continued to get Greeced by $oreA$$es EU Thugs. After another 5 years, they will probably be wanting to leave the EU and the Greecing.


48 posted on 03/17/2014 10:18:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Too bad Obama does not take OUR borders as seriously as he does the Ukraine!)
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To: GeronL
They can expect a very controlled and one sided media and opposition politicians and business people arrested on bogus charges and others to die mysteriously

Oh... so it will be just like the U.S. ?

49 posted on 03/17/2014 12:55:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I just messed up my tagline. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Lol

The oil companies there are going to become part of Gazprom soon enough


50 posted on 03/17/2014 12:57:30 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Yes...I expect this will be so for Crimea people.

World leaders have gone mad.......when a violent take over of an elected government is called legal and a new bogus government is 'recognized' by International Leaders......but a country who's people are voting peacefully in a referendum to secede from that country is called illegal by those same leaders?


51 posted on 03/17/2014 4:14:16 PM PDT by caww
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To: UCANSEE2

Ain’t that the truth! LOLOLOL


52 posted on 03/17/2014 4:15:11 PM PDT by caww
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