4 reasons why Crimea is not Abkhazia

Washington Post ^ | 3-1-2014 | Kimberly Marten

[MarMema]

Ukraine’s acting president, Oleksander Turchynov, has accused Russian-supported forces in Crimea of “working on scenarios which are fully analogous with Abkhazia.” The notion that the “model” of Abkhazia from the 2008 Russia-Georgia war fits Russia’s moves in Crimea is a theme adopted by many media pundits, as well.

[MarMema]

Aww, poor Misha. I guess he was kinda hot-tempered, but I did like him. Anyway here is another separatist movement that Russia engineered I am sure. And no one helped the Georgians then to keep their country from being divided. So I just don't see the big concern about Crimea..

[2banana]

1. Because I can pronounce Crimea!

[JMS]

The precedent was really set in Kosovo where Clinton backed the breaking off a piece of Serbia. The Russians have been waiting for a chance to do the same type of thing.

[Alberta's Child]

Exactly.

By the way, the same "neo-conservative" A-holes who are all up in arms over the Crimea secession today were the loudest cheerleaders for Clinton back in the 1990s when it came to bombing Serbia on behalf of the Kosovo separatists.

Like him or not, Putin is no fool. He knows exactly what these people are up to.

[Kozak]

I look forward to the day when, and it will come when Russia gets carved up like a turkey.

[dfwgator]

By the way, the same "neo-conservative" A-holes who are all up in arms over the Crimea secession today were the loudest cheerleaders for Clinton back in the 1990s when it came to bombing Serbia on behalf of the Kosovo separatists.

Especially the doofus on the right.

[dfwgator]

I look forward to the day when, and it will come when Russia gets carved up like a turkey.

I prefer Turkey to get carved up like a turkey, then we get Constantinople back.

[Revolting cat!]

People who don’t know history see Russia from 1990 on as a new improved Russia, whereas it is the same imperialist, expansionist Russia of the pass 1,000 years.

[goldstategop]

This was more than two weeks ago. Western Kremlinologists misread Russia.

We’re now way past the point of an alternative solution. Russia is going to formally absorb Crimea and then focus on destabilizing and subverting Kiev - without leaving visible fingerprints on the entire operation.

Moscow does not need to invade eastern Ukraine. It can alternate blandishments with pressure to try to make its opponent fall. Putin is not fighting a 19th Century war; he is waging a sophisticated campaign to put Ukraine in its place.

Gobbling up Crimea was just the first phase and while Moscow’s moves do seem inchoate, there is a strategy behind them that the Kremlin has masterminded. Above all, the Russian strongman is a student of Clausewitz.

[Alberta's Child]

Bingo.

[varmintman]

Get used to the idea that and all of your descendants prior to the day of judgment will die of old age before that ever happens.

[MarMema]

The precedent was really set in Kosovo where Clinton backed the breaking off a piece of Serbia. The Russians have been waiting for a chance to do the same type of thing.

THANK YOU.

[MarMema]

Yes, please. Constantinople, where I have not yet ventured.

It is on my bucket list though..

[MarMema]

Russia being carved up was the core idea behind Ziggy and all his chess books.

It may be part of why Putin does not trust us, in fact.

[Revolting cat!]

Luv Comrade Putin that much?

[MarMema]

How many times have you been to Russia?

[MarMema]

Love Comrade Obama more?

[mac_truck]

By the way, the same "neo-conservative" A-holes who are all up in arms over the Crimea secession today were the loudest cheerleaders for Clinton back in the 1990s when it came to bombing Serbia on behalf of the Kosovo separatists.

Concurring bump.

[Revolting cat!]

Next thing you know and these Putin propagandists and apologists here, useful idiots, I figure, rather than paid lackeys, will be explaining away Gulag.