Posted on 03/17/2014 1:03:39 AM PDT by blueplum
I dispute the contention that boys are less qualified; I’ve seen the gender breakdown in higher-level classes, and many of the replacement Americans’ cultures wouldn’t even bother sending a female to college (they’re the ones reproducing). Now they just want to move that 59% up to the graduate and doctorate level, since there really is no shortage of American males that can make the cut.
As I said before, there still tends to be a difference in the boys’ favor in STEM programs and in acceptance to the very elite schools—there are more boys at the very top of the SAT’s.
The replacement Americans with cultures that discriminate against girls academically are clustered at the lower end of the bell curve anyway. (And again, the racial differences in scores are very large, the male-female differences quite small.)
I’m not for affirmative action of any type. But there is indeed a reverse affirmative action going on at the bulk of American colleges to simply get a more equal sex ratio in their student bodies.
I actually don’t know how I feel about that. I can understand colleges wanting more equal representation for social reasons, but that’s not really any different than other affirmative-action quotas—and it’s not really fair to any individuals who may lose out because of it.
“The replacement Americans with cultures that discriminate against girls academically are clustered at the lower end of the bell curve anyway.”
Not really, the Asians and Middle Eastern students aren’t at the lower end.
“But there is indeed a reverse affirmative action going on at the bulk of American colleges to simply get a more equal sex ratio in their student bodies.”
Then I guess the people I know who are forced to pee away time in community colleges for their sons, while their non-achieving daughters go straight into state schools, have it all wrong.
“I can understand colleges wanting more equal representation for social reasons,”
I can’t; I thought they were schools, not hook-ups.
Sorry, Kearny, it's true. Forget about Stanford and MIT. Forget too about Rensselaer and even the NJIT's of the world where the girls have an easier time getting in. Think about the vast majority of schools like Catholic U and Seton Hall. The male/female ratios at those schools were getting so skewed that it not only became easier to get in if you were a boy, it was easier to get merit scholarship money. It may be the only time in a white male's life he's at a statistical advantage, but the advantage is undeniably there.
Catholic schools have no place in this discussion; they will accept anyone who can pay at this point (and were always able to determine their admissions policies instead of having judges determine them). More than twenty years ago when I was looking at colleges, people only went to private schools (temporarily) when they were rejected by state schools; after a year they were in the state schools as well. Nobody is making a real effort (outside of propaganda ploys) to get white males in schools; you can believe the “officials” or your lying eyes...
Asian and Middle Eastern immigrants in the U.S. tend to have and foster highly educated women.
Probably they do, or they are anecdotal exceptions.
Even though they are nonprofits, most colleges are businesses and they thrive on customer demand.
“Asian and Middle Eastern immigrants in the U.S. tend to have and foster highly educated women.”
The Muslim ones certainly don’t; those students would approach me and ask if I knew any girls who would go to their cultural nights because there were so few females from their countries in school.
“Even though they are nonprofits, most colleges are businesses and they thrive on customer demand.”
Sure; here in NJ the state colleges would rather give the seat to a foreigner at a higher price than an American student.
In the late 80s I spoke in our management meeting in Sacramento and said that we had 12% Asian employees and the community was 5%. So according to our affirmative goals, we have to get rid of and stop hiring asians. You could have heard a pin drop. I was considered a neandrethal.
We also had a real african american. Born to Italian family in Ethiopia. He was the only african born person in the building. He used to make their blood boil.
When I went back to my office, my secretary said, “That’s why we oppose affirmative action.”
Yes, and you are talking about foreign students studying in the U.S., which is rather different from regular immigrants. For men to outnumber women in immigration, and especially initial immigration, is not unusual.
ME immigrants in the US tend to be highly educated, with an emphasis on education extended to their women as well.
“Figure 2 shows that in contrast to immigrants in general, those from the Middle East tend to be more educated than natives. While a very large share of immigrants overall are high school dropouts, those from the Middle East are only slightly more likely to be dropouts than natives. At the higher end of the education distribution, almost 49 percent of Middle Eastern immigrants have at least a bachelor’s degree compared to only 28 percent of natives; and at the highest end, 21 percent have a graduate or professional degree, more than twice the percentage of natives. Overall, the figure shows that immigrants from the Middle East are better educated than other immigrants and natives.”
http://www.cis.org/articles/2002/back902.html
When twenty+ guys are telling you they only have two ME women for their dinner/gala, it is way beyond “initial immigration”; outside of the few Christian girls from Lebanon and Syria, there were none from the ME.
Yes, but aren’t you talking about foreign students studying in the US? It’s not surprising that Middle Easterners would send far more sons than daughters to American colleges.
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