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NYC to pay $98 million to settle case alleging FDNY discriminated against minority applicants
New York Daily News ^ | March 18, 2014

Posted on 03/18/2014 4:18:04 PM PDT by SMGFan

New York City reached an historic settlement with the Vulcan Society of black firefighters, agreeing to pay $98 million in back pay and benefits to minority FDNY applicants without acknowledging intentional discrimination at the fire department.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: billdeblasio; chirlanemccray; discrimination; fdny; lawsuit; newyork; newyorkcity; nyc

1 posted on 03/18/2014 4:18:04 PM PDT by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

I wish I could read 1 question that is an example of one favoring white applicants.


2 posted on 03/18/2014 4:26:41 PM PDT by SMGFan (Sarah Michelle Gellar is now on twitter @RealSMG)
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To: SMGFan

So how can something so illogical be associated with ‘Vulcans’?


3 posted on 03/18/2014 4:27:30 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: SMGFan
This is the internet.

If this article was reported by a real news outlet they would have a link to a sample exam so that we could see for ourselves how racist they are.

4 posted on 03/18/2014 4:30:23 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: SMGFan
I wish I could read 1 question that is an example of one favoring white applicants.

You needn't bother. Anything that required a correct answer was biased, I'm sure.

5 posted on 03/18/2014 4:30:23 PM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: SMGFan

Where there is smoke....

Really? In the heart of a liberal mecca that is NYC?


6 posted on 03/18/2014 4:34:14 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: SMGFan
Good. Now let's move onto hospital workers in NYC next, where you are only hired if you are black or Hispanic and their union only accepts you if you are black or Hispanic.

Or how about traffic cops in NYC where your chances of finding one who is white is about the same as winning the lottery? Yeah, no bias going on there.


7 posted on 03/18/2014 4:35:19 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: SMGFan

libtard racebaiters and their lawyers bleeding taxpayers dry yet again.


8 posted on 03/18/2014 4:36:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

I’ve seen a sample test before, it is not racist in the least. The problem is the NYC education system, it is so horrible that the men who have gone through it can barely read so they constantly fail and the only ones who pass are guys from the suburbs, so of course it’s the FDNY that is racist and not the teachers union. This is such a joke it really is. They want to talk about REAL racism they should take a look at the 1199 hospital workers union in NYC which is just about 100% black and Hispanic. In the 1980s I tried to join them as I was hired part-time as a porter during a strike by their lovely union and I was told to my face that I would never get in because I was white. And here we are almost 30 years later and it is STILL 100% black and Hispanic.


9 posted on 03/18/2014 4:51:43 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: SMGFan
I've always been curious about that, too.

HOW can a written test be "biased"?

And in order to squeeze out 98 million from taxpayers, why aren't we "allowed" to see EXACTLY what questions were "proof" of discrimination?

10 posted on 03/18/2014 4:52:41 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

It’s not like its THEIR money they are giving away.

Just another chance for Liberals to redistribute a bit of taxpayer money to the Victim Class


11 posted on 03/18/2014 4:54:16 PM PDT by digger48
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To: digger48

back to their pet protected classes.


12 posted on 03/18/2014 4:56:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SMGFan

A few years back the city of Baltimore MD graduated a class from the Fire Academy with NO minorities.
It was a class formed a few years earlier and when it was put together it had the ‘proper’ number of ‘others’ ready for the Academy. Due to finances etc it was tabled.
When it finally convened and graduated it was discovered ALL the graduates were White.
Not sure but think O’Malley was still Mayor and ‘they’ had a kitten getting an ‘emergency’ class together so they could enhance all their quotas.

I am not sure but it wouldn’t surprise me if there were NO Whites ‘invited’ to the ‘emergency’ class. WOULDN’T THAT BE RACIST?

They were interviewing some of the citizens and one ‘extremely overweight’ Black lady quipped (After being ask if she was ‘upset’ no Minorities had graduated)

‘HONEY! I really don’t care what color the person is that can haul my fat ass to safety’


13 posted on 03/18/2014 4:57:39 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --"I would agree with you BUT that would make both of us wrong".)
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To: SMGFan

gibsmedat yo !

14 posted on 03/18/2014 5:00:54 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: SMGFan

“I wish I could read 1 question that is an example of one favoring white applicants.”

The EEOC assumes disparate impact is equivalent to discrimination.

In other words, the EEOC assumes that every demographic has exactly the same rates of academic achievement, the same rates of any measurable ability or interest, and that tests that fail more Non-Asian-Minorities than whites or Asians must by default be racially biased.

This puts emergency services in a bit of a bind. Well, really any occupation that requires employees adhere to objective, measurable standards of ability in order to prevent loss of life.

Ambulance and fire services for years have tried to maintain both objective standards of testing that measure essential abilities necessary for the jobs in question, as well as hire sufficient Non-Asian-Minorities to keep the lawsuits at bay.

Emergency services across the country have tried to accomplish the goal of both demographic representation AND basic ability by canvassing Hispanic and African-American communities and actively encouraging huge numbers of these minorities to apply in the hopes that they’ll find enough individuals that can pass an objective and non-racially biased test of basic ability.

If 90%+ of your white and Non-Asian-Minorities candidates can pass the test, along with 75% of your Hispanic and 50% of your African-American candidates, and if your test is not really biased and does indeed measure the abilities applicants need to demonstrate daily in order to keep from killing people, then in order to avoid legal shakedowns from the race hustlers you have to make sure that you have twice as many candidates of one specific race in the hopes that their average pass rates will get you some minimally qualified applicants to hire in order to keep from getting your ass sued off for having the gall to administer a test that actually measured technical ability.

That way, you can administer a test that ensures your applicants understand how to use a radio to communicate with dispatch, can speak English, can do basic grade-school math, and can remember that running 3 liters of oxygen per minute through a non-rebreather mask can suffocate and kill a patient.

It’s not the job of the fire department or ambulance service to ensure that every non-Asian-Minority in the country graduates high school with sufficient understanding of basic life skills. It’s not the aforementioned agencies’ job to ensure that all races, ethnic groups, and other demographics in society have exactly the same average levels of academic achievement or ability. However it IS their job to ensure that their employees have the ability to do their jobs, do them as safely as possible under dangerous circumstances, and do so without negligently killing people.


15 posted on 03/18/2014 5:03:55 PM PDT by jameslalor
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To: digger48

Yep, though it appears this ‘disparate impact’ suit was originally brought by the Bush administration.

Somehow a test of firefighting procedures was deemed irrelevant for selecting candidates who would perform well as firefighters.


16 posted on 03/18/2014 5:04:30 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SMGFan
How did the 5% black and 9% hispanic firefighters pass the test if it is "biased", that prevented any others from passing?

Was the failure rate higher for blacks and hispanics? How was the bias proven? A comparison to the minorities percentage in the NYPD? How does that compare? Are there fewer opens and/or applicants to the FD than the PD?

Ah, it's all about the money. Anyway, $98 million divided among 1500 plaintiffs equals a little more than $65000. I wonder how much of that they'll actually see, and will they actually get FD jobs?

17 posted on 03/18/2014 5:04:46 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: SMGFan

In the city of Oakland, Calif having a long, documented history of gang affiliation is NOT grounds for being disqualified for an officer position with Oakland PD.

It’s so common that everyone clear would be white or Asian, and it’s said that it LOOKS BAD if all the frequent flyers are urban and all the cops are from families that had been in farming or shop-keeping.

This means that some of the cops in Oakland are people who were gang-bangers but were then given a badge and gun and sent on patrol.


18 posted on 03/18/2014 5:08:33 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: 9YearLurker
Somehow a test of firefighting procedures was deemed irrelevant for selecting candidates who would perform well as firefighters.

We obviously apply a similar standard to electing pResidents

19 posted on 03/18/2014 5:18:05 PM PDT by digger48
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To: SMGFan

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A0LEVxxk5ShTM1QAHRlx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTE0cDFkdG0yBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMgRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA01PVVMxMzFfMQ—?qid=20090702062406AAQMHId


20 posted on 03/18/2014 5:34:26 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: SMGFan
Biff and Buffy are having a catered soirée at their brownstone to celebrate full vesting in their trust funds.

50 of their WASP best friends are in attendance

The catering staff is all non- White oppressed minorities. They are not to speak or make eye contact with the guests.

At 1930 hrs. an undocumented migrant from Aztlan, not familiar with chafing dishes, catches a white linen table cloth on fire which quickly spreads to the damask drapes.

The fire quickly spreads, blocking all exits. Please answer the following questions using calligraphy:

1. What is the thread count of the table cloth?

2. In what colonial enslaved country were the curtains made?

3. What wine was served with main course?

4. How many times were on the appetizer forks?

21 posted on 03/18/2014 5:52:46 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: jameslalor
"Disparate impact" is so arbitrarily used.

Notice when it's something that liberals LIKE, like cash from the government, a test that EVERYONE takes and blacks do poorly on is de-facto "discrimination"?

But when tobacco companies are being shaken down for cash, for some reason, flavored cigarettes as in fruit-tasting are banned, they "make an exception" for menthol, which black Americans prefer.

That certainly would be "disparate impact".

I've only met a tiny amount of non-blacks that smoke Kools.

As in ONE person.

22 posted on 03/18/2014 6:14:11 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: Swordmaker; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Jesse Jackson to take on Silicon Valley’s lack of diversity
The Washington Times - AP | March 18, 2014 | Martha Mendoza & Jesse Washington
Posted on 3/18/2014 7:22:38 PM by jazusamo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3134697/posts


23 posted on 03/18/2014 6:58:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SMGFan

Yet another in what appears to be an endless series of racialist Black shakedowns.

“We want to be free - free to drop out of school, embrace illiteracy, join gangs, abuse drugs, get a criminal record, father children out of wedlock, and then demand to be hired.”

Next stop: Silicon Valley!

When is someone - anyone - going to stand up to these *ssclowns?


24 posted on 03/18/2014 7:31:40 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Waiting 4 lights to get into the Holland Tunnel, by a traffic person of color holding us, my bus driver opened the door to complain. The TPOC said she has been doing this for 30 years and yelled at the driver for complaining. My friend Chubby yells from the back of the bus: “That promotion must be just around the corner”


25 posted on 03/18/2014 7:52:13 PM PDT by o-n-money (ned)
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To: Jack Hammer

George W Bush paid lip service to opposing affirmative action, but nothing was done. He did correctly label it “the soft bigotry of lowered expectations”; if our own government and institutions refuse to treat blacks, Hispanics, and women as equal, why should anyone else? Within twenty years we will reach a point where these set-asides and quotas will have been here for as long as slavery was legal in this country; will our “preferred minorities and women” have grown up by that point?

We all know the answer to that (and they do, too).


26 posted on 03/19/2014 3:11:04 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: o-n-money

Ha ha Only 30 more years to go! Oh man the fights I use to get in with them, I use to drive a yellow cab about 10 years ago and almost every single day those slimebags would give me a ticket. I would drop someone off and they would run up and throw a ticket in my windshield before I could drive away, or pick someone up, same thing..and I would jump out of the cab and throw myself over the windshield so they couldn’t attatch it ha ha. They’re nothing but a bunch of little thieves working for the city, robbing people with tickets. Oh and the best was one time I parked on Queens blvd around 6:55 am in the morning to run into a Dunkin donuts and get a coffee. I literally ran in, told the guy “small coffee dark no sugar” he made it for me in two seconds I gave him the exact change, ran out only to find my taxi being towed away down the street. The effin scumbag backed up a tow truck lifted my taxi and took off all in the span it took for me to get a coffee, without getting out of the truck he stole my taxi. Why? No parking after 7 am and it was 6:55 am and he lied on the ticket and said it was 7:01 am.


27 posted on 03/19/2014 4:45:28 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: kearnyirish2; NFHale; Impy; KC_Lion
I think I can speak for those I'm pinging when I say I DO NOT want an affirmative action doctor operating on me or an affirmative action lawyer representing me, as examples. Affirmative action is pure and destructive poison, period.
28 posted on 03/19/2014 1:30:41 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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