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Obama manufacturing hubs face uphill struggle to create jobs
Reuters ^ | Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:51pm EDT | Julia Edwards and Jason Lange

Posted on 03/18/2014 8:15:33 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Along the banks of the Mahoning River in the struggling Ohio steel town of Youngstown sits a once-abandoned furniture warehouse that has been converted into a sleek new laboratory.

Inside is a Silicon Valley-style workspace complete with open meeting areas and colorful stools. Several 3-D printers hum in the background, while engineers type computer codes that tell the machines how to create objects by layering materials.

The lab, called America Makes, is the first in a series of so-called “manufacturing innovation hubs” that President Barack Obama has launched with the promise that they could revitalize America’s industrial sector and spur jobs growth in downtrodden communities like Youngstown. Seven more hubs are planned by the end of the year, including projects in Chicago, Detroit and Raleigh, North Carolina, that will follow the Youngstown model of bringing together businesses, non-profits and universities to pursue technological breakthroughs.

But after more than a year of operation, the Youngstown hub underscores the challenges facing Obama’s goal of ensuring “a steady stream of good jobs into the 21st century,” as he put it in remarks at a White House event last month. …

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 3dprinting; manufacturinghubs; obama; youngstown

1 posted on 03/18/2014 8:15:33 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Obama could have done more to help manufacturing by reining in the EPA and allowing fracking and oil drilling on federal lands. All the energy infrastructure would have created hundreds of thousands of jobs immediately, while lower energy prices would create millions of service jobs.


2 posted on 03/18/2014 8:17:55 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Olog-hai

Many US tech design firms farm out manufacturing to Asia, right?

Well soon the US gummint will RE-CLASSIFY such companies as **US MANUFACTURERS**

Gosh I WONDER why they plan to do THAT, right?


3 posted on 03/18/2014 8:18:16 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Olog-hai

Anything Obama is an uphill struggle.


4 posted on 03/18/2014 8:19:11 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Olog-hai

This’ll be another government boondoggle.


5 posted on 03/18/2014 8:19:36 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: headstamp 2

Looks like it already is. Another “not quite shovel ready” moment.


6 posted on 03/18/2014 8:21:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: tbw2

Then he wouldn’t be Obama, of course.


7 posted on 03/18/2014 8:22:09 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

“Colorful Stools”


8 posted on 03/18/2014 8:24:33 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Olog-hai

The only thing that will help manufacuturing is restoring the import tariffs.

And we should lower income and corporate taxes by an equal amount.

You can eliminate all taxes and all regulations and you still can’t compete with chinese labor that is 1/30th our minimum wage.

It was a mistake to lower them in the 1960’s and we have high unemployment and have lost much manufacturing as a result.


9 posted on 03/18/2014 8:24:48 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Olog-hai

Buried deep and forever under a mountain of red tape and taxes.

NO business can manage for long under such a burden.

Our Marxist president is consumed by a deep-seated and virulent hatred for civilization and he’s doing everything he possibly can to destroy it.

And, yes, he’s doing an excellent job of it, too, thank you very much.


10 posted on 03/18/2014 8:26:44 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: DannyTN

You called it the “only thing” while also stating that it’s not the only thing. Don’t forget about scrapping the welfare state.

We can compete just fine with China’s labor pay so long as the economies of scale make things competitive. Focus on quality has to be strong as well.

Initiatives like the one described in this thread are doomed to failure because it’s government trying to create jobs.


11 posted on 03/18/2014 8:27:50 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

This is a perfect example of ACORN Economics. It makes sense to academic pinheads while having no practical use in the real world. Very USSR, with no application in the USA.


12 posted on 03/18/2014 8:30:31 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Olog-hai

The only job we get with Obama is one very expensive,”Village Idiot”, who left unchecked will start World War #3.


13 posted on 03/18/2014 8:32:31 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Olog-hai
Ashley Martof, an intern at America Makes, is studying 3-D printing as an industrial engineering major at Youngstown State University. Her friends and family tell her she is wasting her time because manufacturing jobs have dwindled.

"I tell them there will not be as much need for the working class, but there will be more engineers," Martof said.

She is probably right.

14 posted on 03/18/2014 8:32:58 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Olog-hai

How many millions are the taxpayers paying for each job?


15 posted on 03/18/2014 8:32:59 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: headstamp 2

With more connected Friends of Barry reaping the rewards.


16 posted on 03/18/2014 8:34:37 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Jack Hammer

If he could only get one of his colleges he uses as safe harbor to talk down to us to manufacture a microbe that eats plastic when let loose. Imagine the consequences?


17 posted on 03/18/2014 8:35:06 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: aposiopetic

I can’t agree with that. Machines are not immortal, after all.


18 posted on 03/18/2014 8:35:13 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: ecomcon

Brow stools?


19 posted on 03/18/2014 8:38:03 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: ecomcon

Brown stools?


20 posted on 03/18/2014 8:38:30 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: aposiopetic

But the point is the people of Youngstown thought there would be jobs not just for engineers but for labor as well because Obama lies whenever he opens his mouth.


21 posted on 03/18/2014 8:43:53 PM PDT by funfan
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To: aposiopetic
Ever have a job installing, programming, and sustaining the nightmare manufacturing these "few engineers" gift us with? It's about a 40/1 ratio of electricians, machinists, programmers, mechanics, millwrights, plumbers, and other assorted support people to each engineer.

Obtuse, inexperienced, overthinking, selfie-loving morons are what most of America's engineers are today. In another ten years it will be 100/1 ratios. The engineers just get worse and worse. I say just keep churning them out like mad. I already work 60 hour weeks and am on call every weekend because the engineers are terrified of their own mess they create.

I skin out my own skunks when I make a mess. Engineers just run the other way and point toward those at their six o'clock to blame. (with the exception of a few, and those are Germans)

22 posted on 03/18/2014 8:45:34 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Olog-hai
"You called it the “only thing” while also stating that it’s not the only thing. Don’t forget about scrapping the welfare state."

No I didn't. I suggested lowering income taxes, but that alone will not bring manufacturing. Only the import tariffs will have a big enough impact. I specifically pointed out that you could eliminate all income taxes and regulations and still not be able to compete. Only an import tariff will do.

This plan will scrap the welfare state. When people have jobs, they will get off of the unemployment and the food stamps. Until then, you can't scrap the welfare state. Trying to scrap the welfare state without first fixing the economy will just cost you elections and we will have even more socialist, redistributors and communists voted into office at all levels.

Free traders are enabling big government, because they are the cause of the high unemployment and the high dependency on government.

Our founding fathers thought import tariffs were wise. And they served us well until we abandoned them in the 1960's.

23 posted on 03/18/2014 8:46:17 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Olog-hai

Maybe I misread her statement, which I took to mean that 3-D printing will skew demand toward engineers. I don’t think she meant that there would be no demand for non-engineers technically skilled at hands-on assembly or repair, but you are right that machines break down.


24 posted on 03/18/2014 8:47:33 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: blackdog

That is a fair assessment.


25 posted on 03/18/2014 8:48:53 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Olog-hai

This is so FDR of Barry.


26 posted on 03/18/2014 8:49:24 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: headstamp 2

Yeah and did you see the funding source?

“The Department of Defense, which is contributing the federal funding to the Youngstown initiative, believes its demand for high-tech goods will help the broader economy, said Elana Broitman, acting deputy assistant secretary of defense for manufacturing and industrial base policy.”


27 posted on 03/18/2014 8:51:51 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: Olog-hai

Obama to job creation is as the black plague to life.


28 posted on 03/18/2014 8:51:54 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: DannyTN

None of the measures will bring about the needed change alone. There is no singular thing to fix that can make manufacturing return to the USA, and certainly raising tariffs by itself will not do it; it will instead make investment and business abandon the USA as a failed state if the high taxes, draconian regulations and welfare state are left in place, because that would be the last straw (it’s also a currency killer).

I also didn’t say that the necessary measures can occur simultaneously; but once the jobs actually come back when enough occur at once, then the welfare state will have to be given a sudden curtailment to make those jobs get filled.

I seem to recall bringing up the fact that tariffs were the federal government’s primary source of income before income taxes were foisted on the populace. That’s another measure that needs to be addressed.

However, the social structure has been damaged almost beyond repair. No strong families, no embrace of right values, and there will be no recovery either way, because the higher power will be against us.


29 posted on 03/18/2014 8:54:13 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
Obamacare has to be passed to find out what's in it....

....definition of a stool sample.

30 posted on 03/18/2014 9:05:59 PM PDT by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: tbw2

Yup. Cut the regulations, cut the government, cut the taxes. In our current crisis, government is not the solution; government is the problem. Tear down the government walls; set our people free and let them produce. Free at last, God Almighty, free at last.


31 posted on 03/18/2014 9:07:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Olog-hai

Everything obama has touched has turned to kaka. Not a penny he has spent outside of the military has done this country a speck of good. So, why should this be any different. When it comes to jobs, government is the problem, not the solution. If obama really wanted to see manufacturing jobs increased in this country all he would have to do is get government out of the way, not further inject itself into the situation.

BTW, I could create 13 million new jobs tomorrow if I was President: I’d simply kick out all of the illegal aliens that are taking jobs from citizens and massively driving down labor rates to boot. The latter is why the U.S. Chamber of Commerce is so hell bent on immigration “reform”.


32 posted on 03/18/2014 9:19:02 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Olog-hai

33 posted on 03/18/2014 9:37:19 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Olog-hai
and certainly raising tariffs by itself will not do it; it will instead make investment and business abandon the USA as a failed state if the high taxes, draconian regulations and welfare state are left in place, because that would be the last straw (it’s also a currency killer).

There will still be demand from the U.S. consumers and businesses. We are the largest consumer market. Nobody is going to abandon us if we raise import tariffs.

And as far as the currency, what really weakens our currency is high unenmployment, and high government debt associated with that unemployment. Return industry and employment, and you'll see the nation's balance sheet imporve dramatically. And our currently will be just fine.

You may be right about the social values affecting God's blessing of our nation. But it's kind of a two way street. The economic stress takes it's toll on families and contributes to the social decay. We lowered the tariffs about the same time we kicked prayer out of schools. It may be that God is withholding wisdom from our leaders because of their social stands.

34 posted on 03/18/2014 10:21:03 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Olog-hai

I almost stopped reading at “colorful stools.” Then I had to carry on. This program is nothing more than another redistributive program.


35 posted on 03/19/2014 1:27:52 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Olog-hai

We are going to need a number of highly skilled workers to load plastic into 3-D printer, to take the finished item out of the printer, to box it, and to ship it.

/s


36 posted on 03/19/2014 2:05:12 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: ecomcon
“Colorful Stools”

Isn't that the end result of eating too much unicorn poop?

37 posted on 03/19/2014 3:02:14 AM PDT by dearolddad (/i>)
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To: Olog-hai

Anything Obama touches turns to sh&^.


38 posted on 03/19/2014 3:29:10 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Olog-hai

What a joke.
Ptomkin factory.
If they are not exempted from o’care, it will go under.
No actual purpose except window dressing for his adoring media.


39 posted on 03/19/2014 4:08:21 AM PDT by Texas resident
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To: ecomcon
“Colorful Stools”

It's diet related.

40 posted on 03/19/2014 5:11:27 AM PDT by tbpiper
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