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NASA-funded study: The way to save Western civilization from collapse is communism
The Daily Caller ^ | 19 Mar 2014 | Michael Bastasch

Posted on 03/19/2014 10:54:20 AM PDT by mandaladon

If the United States wants to avoid falling like the Roman Empire, it must avoid “overconsumption” and distribute resources equally, according to a study funded by NASA.

“The fall of the Roman Empire, and the equally (if not more) advanced Han, Mauryan, and Gupta Empires, as well as so many advanced Mesopotamian Empires, are all testimony to the fact that advanced, sophisticated, complex, and creative civilizations can be both fragile and impermanent,” reads the NASA-funded report published in the Ecological Economics journal.

“Two important features seem to appear across societies that have collapsed,” the study adds. “The stretching of resources due to the strain placed on the ecological carrying capacity and the economic stratification of society into Elites and Masses.”

The NASA study uses a Human And Nature DYnamical (HANDY) formula “to provide a general framework that allows carrying out ‘thought experiments’ for the phenomenon of collapse and to test changes that would avoid it.” In other words, the model only takes into account general characteristics of fallen civilizations, and not the specifics.

What did the study find? That collapse is hard to avoid in unequal societies as “[e]lites grow and consume too much, resulting in a famine among Commoners that eventually causes the collapse of society.”

Limits on resources harm the working class, while the wealthy are largely insulated from the problem, meaning resources continue to be used without regard to the cost to society. For example, “an increase in vehicle fuel efficiency technology tends to enable increased per capita vehicle miles driven, heavier cars, and higher average speeds, which then negate the gains from the increased fuel-efficiency.”

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The only way to avoid calamity is to adopt egalitarian methods of resource distribution if resource consumption is limited and distributed equally — eerily reminiscent of those who champion population control or communism.......................I'm sure Obama agrees with this.
1 posted on 03/19/2014 10:54:21 AM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon
Arguments made in this report are similar to those made by White House science czar John Holdren, who has suggested that government should limit the size of the population in order to keep the Earth from becoming unlivable.........Liberals are already working hard on this idea.
2 posted on 03/19/2014 10:56:12 AM PDT by mandaladon (If you're going through hell, keep going. ~Winston Churchill)
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To: mandaladon

NASA has lived way beyond its usefulness.


3 posted on 03/19/2014 10:56:56 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: mandaladon

Can’t predict O-ring failure ,but can predict the end of the world.

I’ve got some white paint to sell them for their roof.

It’s magic paint- $5000 per gallon.


4 posted on 03/19/2014 10:57:47 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: mandaladon

So if NASA reports that communism is the way to go, does that mean Putin will give those two guys of our on the space station a ride home?


5 posted on 03/19/2014 10:58:50 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: mandaladon

We’ll kill the libs before they even get the trains to the first FEMA camp on the tracks.


6 posted on 03/19/2014 10:59:08 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: mandaladon

Which worked so well for the USSR.


7 posted on 03/19/2014 10:59:18 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice.)
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To: mandaladon

NASA cannot even get their science right as of the past few years.

So, they decided to get into something requiring much less intellect.

And they screwed that one up just as much.

Dear NASA, your time has expired. Go away and let those of us who still have good STEM skills attempt to straighten out what you’ve Obama’d up. (Note: Obama’d up is an upgraded term for f***ed up).


8 posted on 03/19/2014 10:59:28 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: mandaladon

Utter horse-piss...


9 posted on 03/19/2014 11:00:11 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tre Norner eg ber, binde til rota...)
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To: mandaladon

NASA is spending it’s time and money promoting, communism, islam and global warming alarmism while we go to space in old Soviet rockets. Am I the only one that thinks that’s stupid?


10 posted on 03/19/2014 11:00:24 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: mandaladon; All

Noting that the states have never delegated to Congress, via the Constitution, the specific power to tax and spend for space exploration purposes, the way to save Western civilization with respect to USA government is to enforce federal government’s constitutionally limited powers.


11 posted on 03/19/2014 11:00:38 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: mandaladon

NASA: Not Allowing Space Adventuring....


12 posted on 03/19/2014 11:00:49 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: mandaladon
“Indeed, it has been concluded that compulsory population-control laws, even including laws requiring compulsory abortion, could be sustained under the existing Constitution if the population crisis became sufficiently severe to endanger the society,” Holdren and Ehrlich wrote................This is something Planned Parenthood would love to see happen
13 posted on 03/19/2014 11:01:13 AM PDT by mandaladon (If you're going through hell, keep going. ~Winston Churchill)
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Torches! Pitchforks!


14 posted on 03/19/2014 11:01:36 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: mandaladon

Besides Misery, what has Communism created?

Capitalism and personal rights created peace, enforced peace.

By it also, the world is now able to enjoy Coke(It’s the real thing), Ice cubes in their drinks, Actual Cold Beer and Levi’s.

No one wants live in any way like those who have been enslaved by totalitarian, fascist states

There is no confusion as to why people flock to our shores or cross the Rio Grande....

Everyone wants to be and American or emulate Murica.

Yippe, Kye, Yeah....Mthrfkr....


15 posted on 03/19/2014 11:01:39 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: mandaladon

Hey NASA, how’s that communism been working up to now?


16 posted on 03/19/2014 11:01:52 AM PDT by certrtwngnut (')
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To: mandaladon
If the United States wants to avoid falling like the Roman Empire, it must avoid “overconsumption” and distribute resources equally, according to a study funded by NASA.

PURE BS.........................

17 posted on 03/19/2014 11:02:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (LIberal is an oxymoron......................)
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To: mandaladon
The mission at NASA seems to have changed. They should have recommended islam as the solution.
18 posted on 03/19/2014 11:02:27 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: mandaladon

NASA: National American Socialist Association.


20 posted on 03/19/2014 11:03:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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