Posted on 03/19/2014 11:46:02 PM PDT by Lou Budvis
BERKELEY, Calif. Delivering a rare speech for a Republican at this bastion of liberalism, Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul on Wednesday was given multiple standing ovations by the left-wing audience after railing against government surveillance and warning the students: Your right to privacy is under assault.
I am here to tell you that if you own a cell phone, youre under surveillance, he told the crowd.
Pauls address at the Berkeley Forum on the campus of the University of California at Berkeley focused on the National Security Agencys collection of telephone metadata and the debate over privacy.
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We just went through this with Romney, he was famous as a social liberal, and he managed to lose to Jimmy Carter on the verge of a depression.
Rand Paul has already started with his call to move left on social issues.
Reagan won by winning social conservatives, in fact the best election the libertarians have ever had in their history, was trying to defeat the man that Ayn Rand despised, Ronald Reagan in 1980.
That's bullcrap. The young saw Romney as a rich Mormon.
He fit every leftist stereotype of what a Republican is: religious and out of touch with the poor.
The right to privacy though is neither left nor right.
After 5 minutes of truth from Paul, the Berkley campus will need thousands of activists to re-educate the students.
The governor who gave America gay marriage, who had been running on homosexualizing the military and Boy Scouts since 1994, who was the most passionate, and sincere, pro-abortion republican that any of us have ever seen, and who ran against the GOP pro-life platform and being pro-abortion, he even ran pro-abortion ads in Ohio, Wisconsin, and Virginia.
Romney was the first nominee in history to win hugely among the independents, yet lose the race, and he did it in an election that couldn’t lose.
-Romney first to win independents big, lose election
-Whoever wins independent voters in Ohio, wins Ohio, Beeson said on Fox News Sunday, two days before the election.
He was, of course, wrong. Romney won self-identified Independents in Ohio by a overwhelming 10 points, according to exit polls, but lost the state to President Barack Obama by 2 points.
A similar trend was seen across much of the country Romney won among Independents by 5 points, 50-45, but lost to Obama, 51-48.
-INFOGRAPHIC: Obama Lost Independent Vote In Almost Every Swing State
The president only won the independent vote in one battleground state: North Carolina.
Things looked very different for Obama in 2008, when independent voters came out in huge numbers to support him.
Just before Election Day, the Wall Street Journal reported those polling numbers had hardly changed, with Romney overwhelmingly leading among independent voters across the country. Republican pollster Bill McInteruff told the Journal the Democrats were really flirting with trouble if youre losing independents by this margin.
It's not 1980/1984 any longer. If you did a poll then, probably 90%+ of the country would be opposed to homosexual marriage. Now it's supposedly 50-50 in places such as Utah, and anyone being honest with themselves can tell which way it's trending. Marijuana is always moving towards legalization.
I would like a candidate that is pro-state rights on those issues (and abortion), and that's it. I don't need a Santorum-type.
he got a standing o .and not a single one will ever vote for him. This is fool’s errand. We won in 2010 without an ounce of this type of stuff ..
I hear your plea to move left, I don’t just hear it from you and the libertarians, and the rinos, I hear it from the New York Times, the Washington Times, Time Magazine, MSNBC.....
We heard in in 1980 as well, it is the eternal message in the war against America and conservatism and God.
We just had that election, and Romney cleaned up with Independents with his pro-abortion ads and his reputation for being a social liberal.
States right? Rand is a Senator voting on federal law, and is running for president, gays in the military, abortion on federal lands, gay marriage in the military and in federal employment and in immigration are not "state" issues.
Its not just about gay marriage its about religious liberty.
It would be nice if we could trust the gay marriage advocates to get married and leave dissenters alone but they want to use govt to punish any one who disagrees. Because of that Paul can say what he wants but business owners in New Mexico will still be sued because they refused to celebrate a gay marriage.
The welfare state and the security state are the one and the same. People are waking up to this. Romney was hardly a tribune to fight the establishment.
Those conservative positions have been hard fought, now is not the time to move left into libertarianism and turn against conservatism.
If the social agenda of the libertarians and the left prevails, then we will only create more liberal voters, and we are lost.
Social liberalism creates many more dependent and lazy democrats, than “economic” conservatives, many, many, many, more.
Your conflation of libertarianism and liberals is more than merely stupid - you’re trying very hard to protect the RINOs under the guise of conservatism.
The Tea Party is real libertarianism. Conservatism is libertarian, because it is founded and based on small government.
Tea Party Coservatives and Libertarians both want small government.
Liberals and RINOs what big government.
That is the dividing line.
YOU are trying to sabotage that movement by LYING about libertarians.
Which means you are a RINO - because what you are doing is exactly what RINOism is all about.
What is left on the social conservative agenda that is obtainable?
Even if Roe were struck down tomorrow, abortion would still be legal in many states.
Even more so with gay marriage. No state that has gay marriage is going to end it. The number of states that have gay marriage and public opinion mean that a constitutional amendment is not going to happen.
Liberals want us to move left, you want us to move left, libertarians want us to move left, rinos want us to move left, the left wants us to move left.
You ALL agree that you want to defeat social conservatism.
The only part of conservatism that libertarians like is our economics and efforts to retain traditional small American government, something that in the last 60 years has proven impossible as America has become broken through social liberalism/libertarianism.
Voters who are not social conservatives, vote themselves more goodies, not fewer.
I BELIEVE with MUCH smaller government the social issues will correct
themselves in our society!! It is government pushing the culture down our
throats making all of this massive legislation and regulation!
Rand isn’t running for Governor, Rand is a Senator voting on federal law, and is running for president, gays in the military, abortion on federal lands, gay marriage in the military and in federal employment and in immigration are not “state” issues.
LOL, so you reject people wanting the smallest possible government - literally the mechanism by which America can be saved - if they don’t want it for ALL of your reasons?
So big government can stay - the massive overreach of federal power, the massive sucking of all the tax money, the gigantic over-regulation of every aspect of life, the huge criminalization of everything it means to be an American and a human being - all of that can stay, and is trivial - compared to everyone accepting your entire agenda, and not “just” that?
And you call your position “reality”?
Well I call your position “sabotage.”
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