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Democrats Oppose Article V State Amendment Convention in FL Senate Rules Committee Vote
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Posted on 03/20/2014 3:17:52 PM PDT by Jacquerie

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To: Publius

Not really. Low level process yap. Are you changing the Constitution - Yes or No? If you are trying to do anything to change the Constitution then that is a losing proposition with no upside potential and only downside consequences. Name one institution in the US that conservatives control. Conservatives can not even control the RNC or the House much less control an outcome so the Constitution is only changed to conservatives’s advantage. What is sad is how politically tone-deaf the supporters of this farce are.

The existing Constitution is not the problem.


61 posted on 03/21/2014 1:20:11 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Jacquerie; plain talk

Thanks, but I must have missed the target by a mile... I got no response. Zero, zilch, nada.


62 posted on 03/21/2014 1:32:01 PM PDT by Strawberry AZ
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To: plain talk
If you are trying to do anything to change the Constitution then that is a losing proposition with no upside potential and only downside consequences.

I know you're not speaking to me, but that alone won't shut me up. I know you can't possibly mean what you just said. The Constitution has been "changed" by amendment 28 times, and in all but one of those cases, some very good arguments can be made for the "upside potential" you claim not to see... like in the first 10, for instance.

I'm not going to preach, I'm just sayin'...

63 posted on 03/21/2014 1:40:02 PM PDT by Strawberry AZ
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To: plain talk
Name one institution in the US that conservatives control.

OK... here are SIXTY NINE institutions that are controlled by conservatives:

https://www.statescape.com/resources/partysplits/partysplits.aspx

If you follow that link, you'll see that those are the institutions of the Governorship, the House of Representatives, the State Assemblies, and the State Senates of the 26 Red States that make up the legislative majority that will control the Convention of States that some are afraid will run off the rails.

I'm not trying to be a wise-ass here, but you did ask.

64 posted on 03/21/2014 1:48:18 PM PDT by Strawberry AZ
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To: Strawberry AZ

There were no responses because there was nothing to add.


65 posted on 03/21/2014 1:49:47 PM PDT by Jacquerie ( Article V.)
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To: plain talk
The existing Constitution is not the problem.

You are right! Right, right, right, right, right!

So, how could you possibly be opposed to an amendment that would make it an impeachable offense for any elected official to vote for legislation that has not first passed constitutional muster?

66 posted on 03/21/2014 1:51:56 PM PDT by Strawberry AZ
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To: Jacquerie

I meant no response from Plain Talk. I’m not giving up...


67 posted on 03/21/2014 1:55:09 PM PDT by Strawberry AZ
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To: Strawberry AZ

I think I have said what I wish to say on this subject. Have a nice evening. No hard feelings. It is not personal just business. :-).


68 posted on 03/21/2014 2:59:10 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

Okie dokie.. you change your mind, you know where to find me.


69 posted on 03/21/2014 8:02:22 PM PDT by Strawberry AZ
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To: Repeal The 17th
The Article V Train is leaving the station.
One down, thirty-three to go. Get on Board!

70 posted on 03/22/2014 12:48:10 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Jacquerie

Latest status report from The Convention of States:

Alabama, HJR 49:
We are still waiting for the Senate Rules Committee to hear the resolution. We have gotten delayed due to some Senators wanting to pass a Delegate Limitations Act before passing a call for an Article V convention. We are hoping to work through this before we run out of legislative session days.

Alaska, HJR 22:
Due to a slight difference in Alaska resolutions, the leadership has decided to push HJR 22 through the Senate as well. We should make it through the Rules Committee by the middle of next week. The last step, the Senate Floor, would come soon after that.

Arizona, HCR 2027/SCR 1016:
Arizona has been our most interesting battle so far. The new approach is that our original resolution will be re-passed through the House as a striker bill, SCR1016. This will allow the resolution to bypass Senate committees and be immediately voted on in the Senate floor. The House floor vote will be early next week, with the Senate floor voting hopefully by Wednesday!

Florida, HM 381/SM 476:
We had a double committee victory this week. The House resolution is now on to the second of three committees, while the Senate is all set for the Senate floor vote. Dates for these will be coming soon!

Georgia, HR 1215:
Happily completed with their legislative tasks.

Louisiana, HCR 6/15:
Our resolution has been assigned to the House and Governmental Affairs Committee and we are just waiting for a date for the hearing.

Missouri, HCR 41:
We have a tentative hearing date for the General Laws Committee.

New Mexico, HJR 2:
The Legislature has adjourned for the year. Discussion can still happen on our resolution, but it will not come to the floor for a vote till next year.

Oklahoma, SJR 38:
We are still waiting for a hearing in the Senate Rules Committee.

South Carolina, H 4372/S 833:
We have hearings scheduled in the House Judiciary Committee for the first two weeks in April.

West Virginia, HCR 86:
We are still waiting for a hearing in the House Rules Committee.


71 posted on 03/25/2014 11:28:06 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Yep, very good progress!


72 posted on 03/25/2014 12:48:04 PM PDT by Jacquerie ( Article V.)
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